Birth Control

[hfitz5051]

So, opposite of TTC, but I thought this was the best place to post it. What do you use when NOT ttc.
Right now, I had my iud removed Monday and we'll be using condoms for now.

[OneFabMama]

I am on the pill. And, every so often we use condoms - but that is rare! LOL
We so do not want another kid right now - it's not the right time so we need to make sure that doesnt happen!
:mrgreen:

[littleways]

We use Natural Family Planning: the Creighton Model System which has a method effectiveness of 99.5%. I love it because it teaches you so much about your body. Here's info about it if your interested: http://www.fertilitycare.ca/index.php

[Samantha]

I am leaning towards getting my tubes tied after this baby. If I dont....I have NO IDEA....I dont do horomones, cant use an IUD...Dont know if I would trust myself to do NFP....dh wont wear condoms...

I am thinking this is how it will go down

I will either get MY way and get my tubes tied

Or

DH will get his way and 2 years from now I will be pregnant again HOPING dh will let me get my tubes tied after #4 (he wants more, I dont)

[hfitz5051]

Dh was going to get a V after the baby was born. Big mistake, he should have done it while I was still preggo. As soon as I had a little baby in my arms, I said NO WAY, I couldn't image never having more. Not the best way to make the decision.

[Samantha]

That is why as long as dh lets me I will have my tubes tied before I leave the hospital!

I cant send DH in to get the big V because he would be the one in however many that it would fail (yes hes THAT fertile!)

[wbkt8]

i was on the pill for a long time before i had dd. but didn't want to go back on it (or the mini version anyway) for a number of reasons. so we've used condoms since - it's been alright. now we're teetering on the edge of not trying, not avoiding.

[rowynne]

I've been using the nuvaring since the end of october, had a paraguard IUD from april-oct, used ortho lo for a few months in 2003 until we started ttc (did that for 2mos after sofia was born, but didnt like the non-bf mom failure rate, LOL). DH was supposed to get a V after Sofia was born (he volunteered since I'm the pg/deliver person). Still hasnt happened, but thats okay....now I want a #4 :) But dh doesnt....so its the nuvaring for now. I like it, but it kills my sex drive

[Bridget Riedell]

Hi Dear,

PLEASE consider using Natural Family Planning! My husband and I have been using it for almost 12 yrs now, and we are also teachers. It is a blessing to so many couples lives. It really strengthens the marriage. Chemical birth controls really can harm your body, and surgery can too. Surgery is also so final. We teach the Sympto Thermal Method of NFP taught through the Couple to Couple League in Cincinnatti Ohio. It's a cross checking method and is 99% effective when practiced correctly. There are teaching couples throughout the world. Check out www.ccli.org for a list of teachers in your area. May the Lord guide you.

In Christ, Bridget

[OneFabMama]

See, I would like to try NFP but 1) I dont trust myself to do it right and 2) I'm with Sam on this one myself and DH are BOTH fertile Myrtles Ive been preg. 3 times (1 full term pregnancy, obviously) 2 times I was on the pill. I kinda sorta chart. I know when Im O'ing on those days we use SPERMICICE AND CONDOMS LMBO! If we didnt we'd definitley have Baby #2 here or on the way :laugh:

[MyKylie]

I've used BCP's, condoms and the Mirena IUD. I hated them all :) Really I have no idea what I am going to use whenthe times comes around next.
NFP is intersting, I seriously doubt my ability to use it correctly! :giggle:

[Samantha]

See, I would like to try NFP but 1) I dont trust myself to do it right and 2) I'm with Sam on this one myself and DH are BOTH fertile Myrtles Ive been preg. 3 times (1 full term pregnancy, obviously) 2 times I was on the pill. I kinda sorta chart. I know when Im O'ing on those days we use SPERMICICE AND CONDOMS LMBO! If we didnt we'd definitley have Baby #2 here or on the way :laugh:

Yes yes yes....we are very fertile together. I was on the BCP when I got pregnant with DS. With harper I was on the patch, I went off it, had a period, a month later I got a + pregnancy test (which that one SHOULDNT have happened because dh was traveling and the spermies had been in there 5 days!!!) AND this time around...my IUD had come out and I knew I wanted TTC but dh wasnt ready yet...so he just wasnt gettin any(no chances!)....LOL he called me and said "LETS DO IT" (meaning lets go for #3) 13 days later (YES 13 days) I got a + pregnancy test.

We are so fertile together if we were the last man and woman on earth I think we could re-populate it. :giggle:

Now I wish we could give some of our fertile vibes to our neighbors...they have been trying for a month and a half or so...I just think "hmm, I wonder what its like to have to TRY to get pregnant"

Hmmm..maybe I should send him in for the V and get my tubes tied BOTH...and use spermacide...you think that would work?

I always joke around with dh telling him that if he cheated on me he wouldnt beable to hide it because he would have another kid running around. I guess I blame him for being the fertile one...but I think its both of us :lostit:

[Bare Bottom Gear]

We use bc and condoms. I am on the 3 month deal where you only have a period every 3 mos. I like is as I have TONS of back probs and my period makes it so bad I cannot function. These pills are a lower hormone level then the Orthocyclen I was on before but I still have no sexual drive. DH and I were talking about them recently and I told him since we use both types of bc then I should just get off the pills. BUT, that means 1 1/2 weeks of pain that no medicine will help every month when I have my period.

I want one more but dh doesn't. I guess I should say, he doesn't want any right now. Honestly, I don't either but I want another sooner rather than later. With my back history there is a lot that has to go into getting preggers and then suffering while preggers so we have to be really careful and sure we want one!

DS is 2 1/2 yo and we talked about having another when he is 5 yo so we don't have more than one kid in college at a time. DH is a tight wad! Money is what holds him back everytime it comes up. Not to mention we don't have room in our house and we'd have to move if we had a girl (we could stay with a boy but it'd be hard!).

We got preggers with ds the second month we were trying so I know we don't have preg problems!

[dirtdartwife]

I second the motion for NFP. I'm a Promoter for my parish and there are so many more couples out there that have such a huge list of complaints about all forms of birth control and I've yet to hear anything sincerely positive. Yes I hear the "I'm not pregnant right now" sound bytes but about 99% of the people that give me that line caveat it with "but I sure would like another".

Putting your faith and trust in artificial birth control is like putting your faith and trust in an automobile while sitting on your hands instead of them being on the wheel, trusting it to "drive itself and yet keep you protected from all harm at the same time." You have to know where to put your trust and have faith that it'll work. And sometimes, life doesn't happen according to OUR plan. :hugegrin:

It's also a mentality you must adapt to. Being open to life is not an easy mentality to adapt to when society is telling you 2.3 children should make you happy, any more than that and you're being selfish and demanding help from others. It's also hard to realize that we actually have to take an active role in self control so when we are fertile (and also at our most amorous for us women) we practice that self control and NOT have sex during the fertile time if we don't want to get pregnant. The operative phrase is self control. We take a passive control when we use birth control, therefore we allow the artificial pills, hormones, shots, surgeries, and other contraptions to "protect" us from a natural occurance (fertility).

Read through some of the above posts and you'll see a few "I like (insert BC here) but it kills my sex drive" comments. That right there would send off a few warning bells. I might not want to get pregnant this or that month, but why on God's green earth would I want to kill my sex drive? :headscratch:

Ok, I've talked enough :blahblah: ... this is just my view so I hope no one takes offense to it. I like reading through the different thoughts and opinions on birth control :needcoffee: as it's such a hot button issue on some other boards, so it's nice to see a thread that isn't blasting one or the other.

[mamas120]

right now I'm on the pill also, I would eventually like to have another child, butnot any time soon.

[bethanyjoy]

:headscratch: Heh, people use birth control??? (just kidding ;) )

Well, I'm definitely going to have to decide on something about nine months after the baby is born...I know from experience that while exclusively/"biologically" breastfeeding I am infertile for about a year after giving birth...for the past few years, we've just used condoms for those few months between the return of my fertility and deciding to TTC. Wasn't a long time period. :blush:

I'm very leary of hormonal options; plus I don't like what they do to my sex drive...having a healthy libido while mothering little kids is hard enough, I don't need something artificially making it harder, kwim?

I'm also concerned about IUD's from everything I've read/heard.

So...not sure what we'll do. We are EXTREMELY fertile - that really annoying kind of couple where he looks at me while I'm ovulating and I get pg, kwim? Plus, I know from charting in the past that I have a LOT of "fertile fluid" -- two weeks worth each 35 day cycle -- so we'd have to do a lot of avoiding/barrier method use to try and avoid getting pg if we use NFP...and I'm not sure I want that to go on for years.

That being said, I don't like the permanence of getting DH sniped or my tubes tied...I'm only (almost) 25 and I am not ready to end my child-bearing years, even though I'm thinking this will be my last. Just seems to permanent for me. Same for DH's surgery.

I'm definitely considering something like a diaphram; just so we'd have an alternative to condoms all the time, since I'm not real fond of those. ;)

[Carrie]

I jokingly say that Dh has a choice between a vasectomy and condoms. He doesn't want more kids so that's the incentive for him. Right now it's condoms. I am intrigued by NFP, but I don't trust myself if that door is opened. I trust NFP, but not myself! We've only ever had sex with no birth control when I got pregnant with twins and that was like 4 times (well, besides when I was pg lol). Am I the only one who actually likes the fact that condoms are less "messy"? We use the new Trojan Elexa condoms and the aren't so bad for either of us.

[hfitz5051]

Same here Bethany. I don't want more, but I don't ever want to lose that option. It's just way to final. I am only 26. I know someone who had it done, he is 25 and now divorced, his new gf wants kids someday.

[hfitz5051]

Am I the only one who actually likes the fact that condoms are less "messy"?
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NO, I agree! Every time I got pregnant I dreaded the fact that we didn't need them anymore.

[Irishmommy]

This is an interesting thread to watch because I want more (for some CRAZY reason) and my dh doesn't. Right now we are using condoms; but I hate them. I want Dh to get a V, but he is not at all receptive about the idea. He is perfectly fine using condoms. Condoms are just a lot more work for me, I know that sounds crazy; but I have to take mega doses of folic acid while TTC or else I get fatal results, so I feel like while the possibility is still out there I have to keep up the regimine (I don't know how you spell that word). Whereas, if he had the V I could just move on with my life and enjoy myself. As I am typing this out I just realized I should really share all of these things with him. I don't think I've mentioned the folic acid debate. Humm...

[Carrie]

A V isn't 100%. I doubt it is that much more effective than condoms used correctly every time. I let my Dh take responsibilty for the condoms. Well, I get it out and get it ready but he "helps" put it on. I think he doesn't trust me, lol! And he takes it off and throws it away, otherwise the dog eats it. O.k. that's probably way tmi...sorry!

[OneFabMama]

I second the motion for NFP. I'm a Promoter for my parish and there are so many more couples out there that have such a huge list of complaints about all forms of birth control and I've yet to hear anything sincerely positive. Yes I hear the "I'm not pregnant right now" sound bytes but about 99% of the people that give me that line caveat it with "but I sure would like another".

Putting your faith and trust in artificial birth control is like putting your faith and trust in an automobile while sitting on your hands instead of them being on the wheel, trusting it to "drive itself and yet keep you protected from all harm at the same time." You have to know where to put your trust and have faith that it'll work. And sometimes, life doesn't happen according to OUR plan. :hugegrin:

It's also a mentality you must adapt to. Being open to life is not an easy mentality to adapt to when society is telling you 2.3 children should make you happy, any more than that and you're being selfish and demanding help from others. It's also hard to realize that we actually have to take an active role in self control so when we are fertile (and also at our most amorous for us women) we practice that self control and NOT have sex during the fertile time if we don't want to get pregnant. The operative phrase is self control. We take a passive control when we use birth control, therefore we allow the artificial pills, hormones, shots, surgeries, and other contraptions to "protect" us from a natural occurance (fertility).

Read through some of the above posts and you'll see a few "I like (insert BC here) but it kills my sex drive" comments. That right there would send off a few warning bells. I might not want to get pregnant this or that month, but why on God's green earth would I want to kill my sex drive? :headscratch:

Ok, I've talked enough :blahblah: ... this is just my view so I hope no one takes offense to it. I like reading through the different thoughts and opinions on birth control :needcoffee: as it's such a hot button issue on some other boards, so it's nice to see a thread that isn't blasting one or the other.

I am on a low hormonal BCP and I can sit here and HONESTLY say I LOVE it. I have had NO side effects. My periods are like clock work. I havent gained any weight. I havent broken out. Im not over hormonal. My sex drive is heh more than enough, etc....so thats not true for everyone. Ive been on the pill off and on since I was 16 (for flow regulation rather then BC) and never really had a problem. Maybe Im just lucky? :headscratch:

[wbkt8]

Am I the only one who actually likes the fact that condoms are less "messy"?


NO, I agree! Every time I got pregnant I dreaded the fact that we didn't need them anymore.

lol - i was actually just thinking that myself.

[materursa]

Sort of on the subject...one of the reasons why my dh wants me on BCP (in a month and 1/2, when I'm not pregnant) is because he's concerned about the irregularity of my cycles. I'm interested in NFP. Does anyone know of a non-hormonal way to try to get my cycles a bit more regular?
Thanks,
Amanda

[wbkt8]

Sort of on the subject...one of the reasons why my dh wants me on BCP (in a month and 1/2, when I'm not pregnant) is because he's concerned about the irregularity of my cycles. I'm interested in NFP. Does anyone know of a non-hormonal way to try to get my cycles a bit more regular?
Thanks,
Amanda
lunaception is one i've heard of

[bethanyjoy]

Sort of on the subject...one of the reasons why my dh wants me on BCP (in a month and 1/2, when I'm not pregnant) is because he's concerned about the irregularity of my cycles. I'm interested in NFP. Does anyone know of a non-hormonal way to try to get my cycles a bit more regular?
Thanks,
Amanda

I'd suggest you get a copy of the book "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" by Toni Weschler...I am prone to "irregular" cycles as well, but I was fascinated to realize that it's NORMAL to have some variation...when you get AF is determined by when you ovulate; ovulation is easily suppressed or postponed in some women by things like breastfeeding, stress, travelling, etc...so the first part of my cycle varies; BUT the beauty of it is that you always have the same luteal phase (from when you ovulate until AF); mine is 12 days. So even though I never used FAM (similar to NFP, but allows use of barrier methods vs. just abstaining during fertile times) exclusively for b/c, I was always able to predict to the day when my period would come. Very nice!

The book has all the info you need to use FAM (fertility awareness method) for birth control purposes...including charts to copy. I think every woman should read it, whether or not they use FAM for b/c...it's very empowering.

[hollyhobby30]

I'm a pill girl.

[Cristina]

I'm a pill girl.

Me too. But DH is about to be a V boy :giggle:

[dirtdartwife]

I am on a low hormonal BCP and I can sit here and HONESTLY say I LOVE it. I have had NO side effects. My periods are like clock work. I havent gained any weight. I havent broken out. Im not over hormonal. My sex drive is heh more than enough, etc....so thats not true for everyone. Ive been on the pill off and on since I was 16 (for flow regulation rather then BC) and never really had a problem. Maybe Im just lucky? :headscratch:
Yeah, you probably are one of the lucky ones where BCP's won't cause you the nasty side effects. But it's something you'd have to keep a constant eye on. The detrimental effects might not happen until later years and it's not like a switch that you can just shut off by stopping the pill.

It's always wise to research all the pros/cons to BCP's and most people don't realize that even the low dose BCP's cause abortions and other pretty harmful side effects. Then it's a matter as to if they care enough to find another form of birth control they can rely on (if the new knowledge concerns them) or practicing NFP which, when practiced properly, has a higher percentage of accuracy than the pill (which you also have to take properly to be effective). There are other methods of NFP besides the sympto-thermal method, such as the Creighton method (I think someone posted it earlier) where it's not as in depth with cross referencing. I think I like knowing what's going on with my body in a natural manner and if DH and I decide that month that we'd like to ttc, we don't have to worry about anything.

I wish everyone :goodvibes:!!

[OneFabMama]

Yeah, you probably are one of the lucky ones where BCP's won't cause you the nasty side effects. But it's something you'd have to keep a constant eye on. The detrimental effects might not happen until later years and it's not like a switch that you can just shut off by stopping the pill.

It's always wise to research all the pros/cons to BCP's and most people don't realize that even the low dose BCP's cause abortions and other pretty harmful side effects. Then it's a matter as to if they care enough to find another form of birth control they can rely on (if the new knowledge concerns them) or practicing NFP which, when practiced properly, has a higher percentage of accuracy than the pill (which you also have to take properly to be effective). There are other methods of NFP besides the sympto-thermal method, such as the Creighton method (I think someone posted it earlier) where it's not as in depth with cross referencing. I think I like knowing what's going on with my body in a natural manner and if DH and I decide that month that we'd like to ttc, we don't have to worry about anything.

I wish everyone :goodvibes:!!
So, basically you are saying because I am on BCP I dont care? My personal belief is BCP does not cause "abortions". So, I am 150% A-Okay with being on the pill - and I dont really appreciate your tone about people who are on the pill.

I'm young. I've had NO problems conceiving. I dont plan on being on it forever, DH will get a V after the next one. But, really thats not anyone elses business.

What is right for you isn't right for me or my family. I dont really appreciate you saying that what is right for me is a bad thing.

[OneFabMama]

...and with that said I'm bowing out. Why do I even read this anyway?

[hfitz5051]

So, basically you are saying because I am on BCP I dont care? My personal belief is BCP does not cause "abortions". So, I am 150% A-Okay with being on the pill - and I dont really appreciate your tone about people who are on the pill.

I'm young. I've had NO problems conceiving. I dont plan on being on it forever, DH will get a V after the next one. But, really thats not anyone elses business.

What is right for you isn't right for me or my family. I dont really appreciate you saying that what is right for me is a bad thing.


Right! Everyone has there own beliefs. There is no need to tell someone that they are wrong and your way is the only right way. I started this thread to see EVERYONE's methods, not to have one forced on anyone.

[smugsmilz]

For those of you on the Pill-which one have you used with sucess and you like?

Has anyone tried the Nueva-Ring? If so, do you like it?

We tried the NFP but it didnt work for us as this third pregnancy in 3.5 years attests to.

I get my period back at exactly 6 weeks post partum without fail and am planning to nurse with some supplimenting.

I dont want to get preggers again any time soon and am looking into my options.

Any thoughts you have on contraceptive options that have worked for you would be most welcome-including brand name and type.

My apologies if this is off topic but it has been on the brain for a while. If it needs to be moved Bethany I will understand. :goodvibes:

[hfitz5051]

Smug, I had the Mirena iud which most people do love. I just can't do hormones it would seem. But I am in the minority. I think it is like 3% of people have any side effects. It is inserted in your uterus(painless) and stays for 5 years. I wish it had worked out for me, because it is a great method.

[Namaste]

DH got vasectomy about a month ago! :lostit:

We practiced NFP - not for religious reasons - but because I didn't want to be on the pill between all of our pregnancies. I had three consecutive losses (one at 20 weeks) and now that we have 2 and I'm heading to 40 pretty darn quickly, DH took the plunge.

I'm very happy with our decision. I'm excited to think that we can have sex when I want it (near O) and not worry. There is always a minut chance, sure, but the only thing that 100% is abstenence. That is basically what we are practicing now with a little one who doesn't sleep through the night. :laugh:

I'm so happy to to whoop it up when we want to and not worry. I've been practicing self control long enough. Now it is time to have some FUN!

[Abunchofus]

Originally Posted by materursa
Sort of on the subject...one of the reasons why my dh wants me on BCP (in a month and 1/2, when I'm not pregnant) is because he's concerned about the irregularity of my cycles. I'm interested in NFP. Does anyone know of a non-hormonal way to try to get my cycles a bit more regular?
Thanks,
Amanda

yes ChasteBerry / Vitex helps a lot.

I can not use any form of hormone based b/c. I have horrible horrible reactions to it - I'm allergic to latex so that rules out a diaphram and condoms and the whole animal skin condoms thing - well just ick - and quite frankly it doesn't feel the same with a condom - sorry to be blunt but that is the reality for me personally.

Spermicide - something in it I am sensitive to so I can't use the gel kind - I itch like crazy the next day! the film kind i've been able to use a litle but not well - it has had other side effects for me.

That pretty much leaves us at NFP. I'm learning it on my own - I would love love love to find someone to teach it. But dh is also pretty much ready to not even use NFP so who knows - probably this next month we'll not use anything.

[OneFabMama]

Smug,
I forget what I am on now, but before I got pregnant with Riley (when I got preg with her I wasnt on BCP) I was on Alesse which I LOVED! Low hormonal. It was pretty good.

I had a friend who used the Nuva Ring and she loved it.

[Samantha]

Just a reminder....lets not bash other people for their choices for their body. Everyone has their own beliefs...lets leave it at that OK? I dont want this to turn into a fight about why one side is right and the other side is wrong, KWIM? Everyone does what is right for THEIR body and THEIR lifestyle.

:hugs:

[SamanthaKailea]

I use natural family planning also condoms when we fill they need to be used and im thinking of a diaphram i do not believe in other forms of birth control for reasons i dont want to get into on here

[DiaperJunction]

Another NFP'er :mrgreen:

[MomsHelpingMoms]

We use the POAP method (Pull out and pray) but along with the NFP it works wonders. We want to have another baby, but I want to do all planning as possible to ensure all my chances of a boy (we have 2 girls). I want 1 more, but because we want to get pg when dd is at least 9 months, I don't want to get an oops right now. I HATE condoms. DH doesn't mind so much, but I hate them. I get sick from pills and bleed horribly from the shot. The patch is now dangerous and all other hormonal treatments are out the window. If God so deems that we get preggo even while pulling out, so be it for He is in charge and not us. I would love to have another baby, but a boy would be a wonderful conclusion to our family:pray: .

[babydirtybike]

Hi,
Nice to see so many different opinion on this topic.

We use Baby Comp (I have mentioned it in another post on the old site). It's an alarm clock/oral thermometer device. Takes 30 seconds each day, tracks your cycle and tells you on each day if you'll likely conceive. Red light means a baby, yellow light means approaching baby making time, and green light means get down and dirty with no chance of babies.

I have used it for 3 years and the first time we tried to conceive it worked.

It's really expensive, but I love that it tracks my cycles right down to the day. It was worth it for us.

There is another one some friends of friends have tried called The Bioself® Fertility Monitor. It's a lot less money.

I have tried BC pills and it made me feel yucky. Not a fan of hammering myself with hormones. I have enough of my own to contend with. :mrgreen:

Both models were recommended by naturopath friends of ours.

later

[Luv2bemommy]

I used condoms and birth control pills in the past.. We also tried the nuvaring but that will never happen again. LOL

I got pregnant on the pill twice so I changed pills after Meghan and I didnt get pregnant but I dont like the hormones in my body.. I had thought about an IUD after #4 but here lately a few friends have had such problems with it, one including the IUD was found near her LIVER, I don't think I will be going that route either.. We could do NFP, we used charting to get pregnant but with a little one I never get enough sleep for it to be accurate and we really hate condoms!:yuck:

[rowynne]

We did try NFP in combination with barrier methods back in 2002, but my periods are soooo crazy anywhere from 32-41 days apart with little to no ewcm to warn of impending O. I also have PCOS. I think NFP is a great idea, but I cant take the chance of having an OOPS because without medication right after ovulation, I miscarry & not right away but after 10-12wks & its horrible. Not something I ever want to repeat (4 was enough). Now I KNOW the bc I use (nuvaring) isnt 100% effective but with my history some hormonal or surgical method is necessary. I'll take the low sex drive over a miscarriage anyday!

I've also used about 6-7 different bc pill brands, IUD, depo & cant for some reason or another, migraines, weight gain (40# in 2mos!), etc so nuvaring is it for me until we are SURE we dont want any more kids then dh will get a vasectomy.

[Elphaba71]

I used Nuvaring for a few years before I got pregnant. I loved it! I thought it was the best thing to happen to birth control in a long time. Side effects same as the pill (which for me meant lighter, shorter periods and that's about it) and only have to think about it twice a month. (To insert and to remove). My husband and I could only rarely feel it during sex (sorry if tmi). I've recommended it to several of my friends who love it as well. Now, however, it's condoms. I didn't want to risk hormonal stuff messing with my milk supply and we're planning to get pregnant again within about a year anyway. I have a prescription for a diaphragm, but haven't gotten around to filling it.

[1bigfamily]

We use the POAP method (Pull out and pray) .

:spit: :rofl:

[MamaJenn]

:thumbsup:

[carolynanne]

I had a copper IUD placed after I had DS #2. Yesterday H had a vas. Once he gets two clear SA's I will be having this thing removed. :thumbsup:

[Shannon]

Condoms this last time...between babies. I was on the pill before I got PG with both girls. BUt it took 6 and 7 months after getting off of BCP to get pregnant with each girl. With this baby, we got PG the first month we tried.

I'm not sure what we will use when I have this baby. Probebly nothing until I get AF back...but after that? I have NO clue. Dh may be getting the V...

[*~Mindy~*]

i used a variation of nfp for a long time between 14 and 17 when i got pregnant with my son ( i had a m/c when i was 14, and yes both babies are BY THE SAME PERSON ,and no dont bash me and yes i have a reason that i felt the need to say all this in my post :Sigh: )
anyway, and now im sorta charting, sorta kinda, LOL. but mainly my gf is spending the night here a lot too and umm...i dont want her flipping and telling my mom, etc (long story, i dont feel the need to share that part.)so i kinda dont temp much right now, so theres almost no way to do a pattern from it, but i do the cf and positioning almost every day... like..i miss one every 2 weeks or so i guess...were not staunchly trying to prevent now, though, so i guess thats a good thing that wed welcome a new baby or there might be a problem lol :D

[dirtdartwife]

To OneFabMama and some others...

I certainly didn't mean anyone any harm. I wasn't bashing anyone's ideas or practices. I did mention facts and you can research them if you are so inclined. I apolgize if my tone hurts someone's feelings, but I won't be reprimanded for posting the truth. My tone was academic, not accusatory. I am a certified promoter for NFP so I do know what I'm talking about.

I didn't personally attack anyone for anything so I resent the accusation. I too don't want this to turn into a "my way is the best way" because that's not who I am and I personally don't give a rat's rear-end as to what others use, it's not my place to judge about something like that. The OP asked for all opinions, I gave mine and when something was said regarding my posting, I replied back with nothing but facts. So I don't appreciate being accused of such harsh, inaccurate behaviors. If you have that much of a problem with me personally, feel free to PM me and we'll have a discussion.

If you are concerned with the validity with what I wrote.. .research it and you will find that what I wrote is true. You can go to www.ccli.org and just get into the medical facts. When one person makes a claim that just because *they* haven't had any negative side effects... it doesn't negate the accuracy in the information in which I presented. (IOW's, one person's personal claims and experience can't refute medical evidence)

Peace to all of you and again, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. :hugs:

[rowynne]

I do have a question....even the low dose BCP's cause abortions Birth control pills supress ovulation, no egg....no conception....how do they cause an abortion when there isnt anything to abort?

[dirtdartwife]

I do have a question.... Birth control pills supress ovulation, no egg....no conception....how do they cause an abortion when there isnt anything to abort?

There is what's called break through ovulation where ovulation does occur and if conception occurs, the other chemicals in the pill have rendered the uterus inhospital to implantation, therefore forcing a chemical abortion. Birth control pills aren't perfect (as nothing is) so there is a false sense of trust when the doctor tells their patient that birth control pills suppress ovulation all the time.

Thus the many comments from many people of "my child was a birth control baby." or even the women seeking an actual abortion that states "My birth control pills failed."

It happens. :cry:

[rowynne]

Usually pill babies come when you dont use them right, my sister is one :)

[Namaste]

There is what's called break through ovulation where ovulation does occur :

Also, don't forget the pill tricks the body and it forms a mucus plug, much like when we are pregnant. I went off the pills years ago and after about one month, I passed a mucus plug.

The hormons in BCPs are much lower now than ever, which is good on one hand, kinda stinks on the other if you don't want to get pregnant!

:)

[dirtdartwife]

Usually pill babies come when you dont use them right, my sister is one :)

I have a brother, three cousins, a neice and I myself have had a pregnancy which all resulted from accurate use of the pill. I know what you are getting at though... :)

It just happens. :( :dunno:

[contemplation31]

I LOVE Mirena IUD!! Since it releases hormones directly into the pelvic cavity, it only has to use a LOW dose hormone and is 99.9% effective. Best of all (and what make me want it again), NO PERIODS AFTER ABOUT 2 MONTHS FOR ME!!!! I had no period for 2 yrs, then got pregnant less then a month after having it removed! I didn't put on weight with it, it game me no drastic mood swings,,,,overall just wonderfull. Scratch the tubal,,,give me my Mirena back :hugegrin: !

[negrapy]

Have you looked into the Lady Comp (if a lot upfront but is guarenteed 10 yrs)
its natural family planning with the success rate of prevention between condoms and a pill

[Gwen]

LOVE LOVE NFP (with condoms when it is nessecary) - easy, free and no side effects - and it works GREAT!

Gwen

[LilHippyMamma]

I've always done the natural family planning. I'm thinking of looking more into some remedies I've heard about this time around

[ladybugmom]

we NFP here also- here is a good link with info about how the pill has 3 levels of Many of the birth control pills that are hormonal, in addition to preventing ovulation, also prevent the fertilized egg from implanting should ovulation occur, thus terminating a pregnany.
Here is a helpful website but please be warned it has info about how the pill can terminate a pregnancy as it is a pro-life website called pharmacists for life. http://www.pfli.org/faq_oc.html
From their website,www.pfli.org/faq

How does the pill really work? A. There are four ways the pill acts to stop sperm reaching an egg (ovum). First, the hormones in the pill try to stop an ovum being released from your ovary each month. This is known as the suppression of ovulation. Research has shown that neither the progesterone-only pill nor the combined progesterone-oestrogen formulations always stop ovulation.
Second, all formulations of the pill cause changes to the cervical mucus that your body produces. The cervical mucus may become thicker and more difficult for sperm to fertilize an ovum.
Third, all formulations of the pill cause changes to the lining of the womb (properly known as the endometrium). Under the influence of the chemicals in the pill, the lining of the womb doesn’t grow to the proper thickness. You will notice that your periods are lighter when you are on the pill. This is because the lining of the womb has not developed properly. But this change also means that the womb is not in the right stage of development to allow a fertilized egg to attach properly (this attachment process is known as implantation). This action of the pill will be discussed again in this booklet.
Fourth, the pill causes changes to the movement of the Fallopian tubes. This effect may reduce the possibility of the ovum being fertilised.

[negrapy]

I've used BCP's, condoms and the Mirena IUD. I hated them all :) Really I have no idea what I am going to use whenthe times comes around next.
NFP is intersting, I seriously doubt my ability to use it correctly! :giggle:


Ladycomp! its great nfp easy, realible... but expensive upfront unlike other npf... but my husband said, a lot less than being pregnant LOL

when I searched npf I found out about it because pills make me sick, condoms itch (tmi right?) and trusting God's timing has the potential to make a lot of babies really quick (40 weeks after the honeymoon LOL)

but now that we have one.... :headscratch:

[newuanda]

We use Natural Family Planning: the Creighton Model System which has a method effectiveness of 99.5%. I love it because it teaches you so much about your body. Here's info about it if your interested: http://www.fertilitycare.ca/index.php

I am so interested in this. I hate using condoms and would like to stay off the pill. I did like being on it, but I just don't think it's all that safe b/c there is history of cancer in my family. Anyway, we've been looking for something natural and effective. I'm off to do some reading now.

[stephdpn]

My DH had a vascectomy when DS was about 4 months old, he had the VasClip procedure done, which has a higher reversal success rate should something happen to me and he wanted to have more children...together though, we are done...I can't do hormonal bc since I had DD b/c I get horrible migraines. I also am a TERRIBLE pill taker, so it was riskier for me to be on the pill than off.

I just realized the other day that I probably had a miscarriage when I was in college and never knew it - I had all the syptoms of pregnancy but was in denial and not where I could take a test, so when I finally started my period (about 3 weeks late), I just chalked it up to stress, travel, etc...this was while I was on the pill, but I was ALWAYS a terrible pill taker.

The V works for us and has greatly improved the spontenaity of our sex life (we used condoms before)...we are happy with our decision!

[tng_mama]

My dh had the big V after Gracie was born. We have three children, and agreed that's enough for us. I do get sad some days that I will never be pregnant again, or hold my baby for the first time again...especially as Gracie gets bigger by the day, and I'm sure that when she's done nursing, I will feel it even more. BUt, I don't think we could do another one. :lostit:

"The V works for us and has greatly improved the spontenaity of our sex life (we used condoms before)...we are happy with our decision!"

:yeahthat:

[mommy2zander]

Gosh, I'm the only Diaphram user, eh?? We have used it & spermicide...

I also like the idea of NFP & knowing your body... I'm familiar with my fertility cycles, but not charting...

[EasterBun]

Usually pill babies come when you dont use them right, my sister is one :)

DS is a pill baby. Pill babies also happen when you have weird side effects from the pills (aka heavy mid-cycle bleeding, then fairly scant AF!) and your healthcare provider (planned parenthood) tells you it's "normal" and then the OB/Gyn you see later for your pregnancy laughs and says HE is surprised you didn't get pg sooner because the pills wouldn't have been effective with the symptoms I had (and I didn't even get pg mid-cycle, I got preggo around when AF was due, it never arrived.. I was a few days late and a pg test then was neg, I didn't worry too much and tested again two weeks later.. pg!) :banghead:

Every pill baby I've ever heard of was conceived on Ortho Tri-cyclen. I'm convinced that there are some serious issues with that particular pill.. either that or too many healthcare providers prescribing it and not really doing a good job of trying alternatives or following up with patients who do have problems with it. I went to PP regarding my "problems" with it THREE TIMES and I even requested to try something else and they wouldn't let me change because I'd already bought a year's worth of pills and they couldn't be exchanged :yuck:

DD is an IUD "failure" of sorts - I had expelled my IUD and not noticed (I got out of the habit of checking for it) and then one month I was MUCH later than normal :blush:

I'm not comfortable doing hormonal BC again, and I refuse to do anything permanent to my body, so after DD, DH and I used condoms pretty regularly for about 5-6 months. Since then... I don't know if DH just doesn't care, or what, because we haven't really been using anything :laugh: I think I O'd a couple of days ago too.. so we'll see what happens ;)

I have only ever wanted three... so if/when another comes around, then I will pressure DH to get a V :thumbsup:

[kissum]

I have an IUD, but since I'm single it doesn't really matter! I got pregnant on the pill though so when the day comes I will probably use condoms too, just too be careful. I don't want any more babies for awhile.

[EasterBun]

FWIW, I'd consider getting an IUD again... I would just make a point of checking for it EVERY month :thumbsup: Once every 6 months or so just doesn't quite cut it! :laugh: