I have a friend that is feeding baby (2 months tomorow) cereal in the bottle and wont listen to me that it's not good for baby. They also wont talk to the dr. basically her mom said it was ok so they think it's ok:banghead: I need links to articals explaining why this is bad. To help them understand.
Thank you. I getting frustrated they hardly hold baby and now this:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
frenchie
09-20-2007, 09:40 PM
NAK....you can find that info at the AAP website.
Roseplummer
09-20-2007, 09:46 PM
Thank you! I will check there!
lilyfish
09-20-2007, 09:55 PM
I couldn't find a link to the AAP's stance on starting solids, but here are a bunch of other links that will tell her the same thing with more detail:
http://www.drgreene.org/body.cfm?id=21&action=detail&ref=561 .. one about when to start...
http://www.drgreene.com/21_861.html ... and another Dr. Greene link, about why cereal in bottles is not a good idea!
http://pediatrics.about.com/od/weeklyquestion/a/04_fdng_gidlns.htm (This advice is given to a formula feeder so if your friend's kiddo eats formula, they will find that even THEN cereal should not be given until 4-6 months!)
http://www.modernstork.com/content/002460.shtml ... Here is a link that highlights the importance of SPOON feeding cereal to baby as opposed to giving cereal in a bottle, and only starting out w/solids every 4-5 days (look under "cereals first" to read a/b the importance of spoon feeding cereal, and NOT TIL 4-6 MONTHS!)
http://askdrsears.com/html/3/t032000.asp And here is a link on why it is good to delay ANY solids, including cereal, until 6 months of age.
Good luck, and hope that helps! :hugs: You're doing the right thing by trying to educate your friend and help her baby!
FaeryGnomeHome
09-21-2007, 05:27 AM
I'm afraid you are goign to find that she may be extremely defensive and upset if you try to tell her she's doign something incorrectly regarding her child. Heck, I'd be upset if I KNEW something I was doing was correct, and you tried to convince me otherwise. If you are committed to saying something, there's nothing I can do to persuad you otherwise but just be prepared for a fight. Sorry you are so upset about this.:hugs:
Roseplummer
09-21-2007, 06:09 AM
I'm afraid you are goign to find that she may be extremely defensive and upset if you try to tell her she's doign something incorrectly regarding her child. Heck, I'd be upset if I KNEW something I was doing was correct, and you tried to convince me otherwise. If you are committed to saying something, there's nothing I can do to persuad you otherwise but just be prepared for a fight. Sorry you are so upset about this.:hugs:
She already asked me about it then decided differantly. She is a young mom who wasn't ready to be a mom. I just want to help her see that the easy way isn't the best way. I know she will be defensive thats why I want to send her links to read from someone else besides me about the issue. Thank You:goodvibes:
And Thank you to the momma with the links!:goodvibes:
hfitz5051
09-21-2007, 06:35 AM
Her doctor may not be that helpful anyway. Some still tell moms to do this.
House of Blue
09-21-2007, 07:00 AM
Good luck with this one. I board I'm on for my last little guy... I was 1 of about 3 moms who held out on solids for the full 6 months.... This is on a board where everyone knew what was best b/c we had the conversation a few times. But there are always people who feel that their child is exceptionally hungry and exceptionally large for a 2 or 3 month old and their child will simply STARVE if they don't get that big bowl of carbs (for the body to quickly digest and convert into sugar contributing to diabetes, lifelong carb addiction and obesity :) :laugh: ).
aliks
09-21-2007, 07:23 AM
Here's a good one http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/30/earlyshow/contributors/emilysenay/main575958.shtml if you feed the baby cereal too early it can lead to type 1 diabetes ;) Tony was fed it at 6 months and still got it, but we've got crappy genetics.
For the previous poster, sugar doesn't contribute to diabetes. There's many factors and many types of diabetes (now I think it's up to four types, type 1, 1.5, 2 and talks of a type 3)with different causes.
I also like the dr. sears link http://www.askdrsears.com/html/3/T032000.asp
FaeryGnomeHome
09-21-2007, 09:20 AM
She already asked me about it then decided differantly. She is a young mom who wasn't ready to be a mom. I just want to help her see that the easy way isn't the best way. I know she will be defensive thats why I want to send her links to read from someone else besides me about the issue. Thank You:goodvibes:
And Thank you to the momma with the links!:goodvibes:
I wasn't being snarky at all. I hope you know that. I just wanted you to be ready to get told that it's her child and she'll do what she feels is right and for her to get defensive. In fact, I wouldnt' be surprised if this thread gets some snarky comments from mama's defending their choice to feed their baby cereal or baby food at 2, 3 and 4 months old. HOnestly, I don't care what they do. I chose not to for my own babies, but it's not for everyone. I just dont' want you to be shocked when it happens. For some reason, there's a lot of mamas who get very very offended by someone trying to help and offer advice. I'll listen to any advice. Whether I use that advice or not is up to me. But I'll at least listen. Some people aren't willing to do that.
Roseplummer
09-21-2007, 10:10 AM
I wasn't being snarky at all. I hope you know that. I just wanted you to be ready to get told that it's her child and she'll do what she feels is right and for her to get defensive. In fact, I wouldnt' be surprised if this thread gets some snarky comments from mama's defending their choice to feed their baby cereal or baby food at 2, 3 and 4 months old. HOnestly, I don't care what they do. I chose not to for my own babies, but it's not for everyone. I just dont' want you to be shocked when it happens. For some reason, there's a lot of mamas who get very very offended by someone trying to help and offer advice. I'll listen to any advice. Whether I use that advice or not is up to me. But I'll at least listen. Some people aren't willing to do that.
I knew you weren't being snarky.:thumbsup: It's hard to convey tone of voice on here.:blush:
When I sent the Mamma the links I started with "I know you want to do whats best for your baby so I'm sending you these links to help you make an informed desicion."
firstkid4me
09-21-2007, 10:11 AM
It's hard for people to come to terms with the fact that their mama might not be the best source of information or isn't the parenting guru they thought she was.
crittercrazy3
09-21-2007, 10:14 AM
does her baby have reflux? when reflux is too severe (explosions through mouth and nose) cereal in the bottle could help. we used cereal with dd and ds1
just "because" though? :nono:
dirtdartwife
09-21-2007, 10:22 AM
Sounds like you've done what you can, but let the mama make the decision. You can't force her to accept the information she may (or may not) read about the subject. So just rest easy knowing you've done what you can to give her the information but don't push it on her. :thumbsup:
paintedbison
09-21-2007, 10:23 AM
does her baby have reflux? when reflux is too severe (explosions through mouth and nose) cereal in the bottle could help. we used cereal with dd and ds1
just "because" though? :nono:
Actually, my understanding is that cereal in a bottle isn't even good for reflux. It thickens the milk so that we don't see spit up come out the mouth, but it is still refluxing into the esophagus and doing damage. A lot of docs still recommend it as a treatment... but they shouldn't. More info: http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/reflux.html#thickenedfeed
Roseplummer
09-21-2007, 11:41 AM
Thank you all! Baby has no reflux. He doesn't even really spit up much.
My middle one has severe reflux so I know how hard that is.
DivineNature
11-21-2007, 02:43 PM
Just thought I'd mention that I didn't know any better with my ods and gave him cereal in a bottle before bed a few times. :banghead:
It totally constipated him and so I stopped. I really wish someone would have saved me the trouble (and ods the pain) and TOLD me not to do that. I kept hearing to do it so he would be full for bed and blah blah blah. Now I have found that even the most mainstream docs and books tell you never to do that.
Some mamas DO want to be told. :goodvibes:
Roseplummer
11-21-2007, 03:05 PM
I try not to be in contact with these people anymore.
I posted a thread more recently about this baby haveing a very large hemotoma on his head. I'm pretty sure cps paid them a visit after that (they had brought him in to the er and the docs there most likely called). I really hope they gave them some parenting classes. It just hurts my heart to much to be around them:cry:
