Journey to Conception - Week of November 17-23

[JaylasMommy]

TTC is not always an easy journey. And, many times, people facing this journey do not receive the love and support they need to go through it. Now, we have a special place of our own. Where we can share our frustrations, laughs, and sadness without holding back.

Please, feel free to take a few minutes to introduce yourselves either for the first time, or again.

Also, if you find some informative reads, or some pick me up reads, feel free to post them as well.

Name you want to go by: Ashley
TTC Info: TTC#2 since July 2007 CD- Who Knows...
Fertility Procedures: None so far, still trying an herbal approach. Vitex, B-6, Folic Acid, Multi-vitamin, Calcium [I have a hard time getting enough calcium] Thinking of stronger herbs for my PCOS. YUCK.


Name you want to go by: Robyn
Cycle Info: CD 3 (11/16), TTC #2 since Sept. 2007, 1 m/c @ 9 wks. (3/2008), 1 chemical pg. (11/2008)
Fertility Procedures: none from a Dr.'s perspective, but I am taking Vitex and b6 and using progesterone cream post-O. Hoping for a specialist referral in Jan. 2009.


Name you want to go by: Erin
Cycle Info: CD 8 (started 11/11/08) - maybe all those 1's will mean something
Fertility Procedures: I've been diagnosed with insulin resistant PCOS. My testosterone levels and thyroid levels are normal. I had a "perfect" HSG. We started TTC June 2006. I've done Metformin since April 2007 (1500 mg per day). I also did 3 months of 50 mg Clomid, 1 month 100 mg clomid, 1 month 150 mg clomid. I responded well, but did not get pg, obviously. Currently, I'm taking vitex, cinnamon, metformin, alpha liponic acid (green tea), b complex, multi-vitamin, and baby asprin. We do have a 2 1/2 year old little boy conceived with no help.


Name: Ariana
Cycle Info: CD37
Fertility Procedures: none medical right now. Problems are lack of ovulation, TTC w/one fallopian tube. Ectopic pregnany. Using Moon next cycle. Clomid if not pg by Jan. (maybe)


Name you want to go by:Kristin
Cycle Info: Prepping for IVF#2, TTC#1 getting ready to start shots...baseline US on thursday!!! Egg retreival scheduled for sometime during the first week of Dec!
Fertility Procedures:everything under the sun....b/w, US, genetic testing, HSG, DH ddx-CBAVD d/t carrying the CF gene, My ddx-high FSH/poor responder/poor egg quality


Name you want to go by:Charlotte

Cycle info: CD #7 today post m/c.
Ds Jim 4-23-94,m/c at 8 weeks--May'04,Dd Sarah 6-07-05,Dd Megan Grace(Gracie)born to heaven on 6-5-07 in my 18th week due to NTD Anencephaly,and recent m/c on 11-13-08 in my 6th week(suspect my baby died in my 5th week when the spotting began.)TTC seems like forever--no birth control used in our whole 18.5 yrs.marriage.

Fertility proceedures---Definitly have insulin resistant PCOS(dx 2004),low thyrod(dx 2004),type 2 diabetes(dx 12-2000).On 2,000 mg Metformin,30 mg Actos,150 mcg Synthroid,Humulin insulin at bedtime,prenatals,an Rx folic acid(4 gram a day),daily baby aspirin,omega 3's,B complex,Vit C.,Vit E,Zinc and natural supplements for PCOS/ovulation--d-Pinitol 600,NAC,Inositol 5, and cinnamon.
Starting natural progesterone cream from ovulation--to the end of the 2 ww or end of first trimester if pregnant.


Name you want to go by: Kirsten
Cycle Info: CD 10 (how sad, I had to go check, LOL )
Fertility Procedures:Just testing for FSH, LH Thyroid (i think on those letters Trying to get in to the doc's on the 25th when i take the kids for the well child visit's to talk about Progesterone during the 2ww.


Name you want to go by: Delana
Cycle Info: CD28
Fertility Procedures: Started ttc Aug 07. m/c Nov 07. DX PCOS July 08. Went on b/c for 2months to regulate my cycle. I'm on my 2nd cycle off b/c. Starting new supplements tomorrow.

Name you want to go by: Crystal
Cycle Info: 9 DPO… but I’m trying not to count!
Fertility Procedures: No procedures for me but DH had a vasectomy reversal 6/07. I have slightly longer irregular cycles and borderline hormones and I have been taking fertiliaid and drinking fertilitea for a few months now, exercising and so on just trying to be in gereral good health. I think I may look into real fertility herbs next cycle though if need be.


Name to go by: Melissa
age- 25, dh-28, ds-2.5, baby- 17 weeks
history: Missed m/c at 12 weeks (lo only made it to 9) May 05, m/c at 6 weeks Aug 08, ds June 06, m/c at 6 weeks May 07, m/c at 7.5 weeks July 07, m/c at 6 weeks Jan 08, expecting in April 09 (used clomid and IUI to boost chances and promote healthy ovulation)

Name you want to go by: Julie
Cycle Info: 7 DPO
Fertility Procedures: Clomid for now
Color you want your post in: magenta

Name you want to go by: Lanie
TTC Info: TTC since Dec 2007
Fertility Procedures: Gave up Hoping good old fashioned lovin will get me somewhere
Color: Blue

Name you want to go by: Nicole
Cycle Info: 5 DPO
Fertility Procedures: Hysteroscopy Dec 4'th, recurring m/c blood work to be done next week, already on ba, folic acid, b6, b12, and trying soy this next cycle.


Name you want to go by: Laura
TTC Info: TTC since March 2007 - cycle 19 started 11/15/08
Fertility Procedures: Semen analysis - perfect!! HSG - perfect!! PCOS blood test - positive for PCOS. We did Femara (unmonitored) for 6 cycles. We are now doing Femara, Trigger shot, and TI (timed intercourse) for 3 cycles.


Name you want to go by: Rose
Cycle Info: CD 3
Fertility Procedures: None


Please, read the sticky posted in this forum before posting in this thread. I think that sticky has some great guidelines to posting in this board.
Also, please refrain from talking about children, as this is a sensitive topic here. We are all here for the same reason, and have to remember each other's feelings through this tough time. :goodvibes:

[CalebsMome]

Ashley: The thread looks great!

How is everyone doing?

AF is almost completely gone for me! Yay! I stopped the Chromium Picolinate because I read some things and got scared and decided to stop until Charlotte confirms I'm taking the right dosage and stuff. (Chromium Picolinate 800mg 1x daily?) I'm toying with the idea of temping. I have the stuff I've just never done it. We get paid a half a month's extra this month so I'm going to pay off the ob and the re and then maybe go back. There were some insurance issues to fix and my bill was getting really high, so we put a pause on it until we pay the bill and then we'll start back. We have enough debt as it is :thumbsup:

On a happier side note, I'm going home tomorrow, dooh dah, dooh dah! I have finished, printed and have ready in a folder all of my paper work. Now is procrastinating DH would finish his I could turn it in, wash a load of clothes, and pack! YAY!!! :bliss: :yay: :happyclap: :highfive: :ohyeah: :ohyeah: :banana: :broc: :carrot: :party: :party:
LOL...very long shift, but I think the smack down has been sufficiently laid down :roflmbo: .

[averysmom]

Ashley- Great job on the list!!!!

AFM: Not much going on here. AF is due sometime around Friday. Hopefully, she shows. I'm about to head out the door to go buy all my new supplements!!!! Talk to you lovely ladies soon.:hugs:

[crystalannski]

The new thread looks great Ashley, thanks!

Will someone look at my chart.. pleassssssse! My temps are really high and I'm not sure if it's good, bad or doesn't matter. I need some reassurance and I need to stop obsessing, ahh I hate this!

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Ashley, great job! It looks awesome :hugs:. CD 2 here and nothing to report LOL. I'm going to go replenish my Vitex supply today and am also thinking of doing the baby aspirin thing. Anything else I should try? I don't have PCOS if that helps. I am also taking b6. I am making DH go on FertilAid for Men this cycle too :giggle:.

Talked to my m/w office this morning and they gave me the names of the two REs they refer to - one is an hour+ away and the other is about 2 hrs. away but it's Dartmouth which is very highly regarded......so I'm torn. I'm going to make a decision today though so I can get the ball rolling.


The new thread looks great Ashley, thanks!

Will someone look at my chart.. pleassssssse! My temps are really high and I'm not sure if it's good, bad or doesn't matter. I need some reassurance and I need to stop obsessing, ahh I hate this!

Hey there! Your chart is looking AWESOME. In fact I would say it is super duper promising. Good luck!!!!! Can't wait to hear what happens :hugs:.

Cheers ladies!

[JaylasMommy]

I have no idea, Robyn. I just ordered a bunch of herbs and stuff from GNC last night. And, some progesterone cream.

Just one question about Prog. cream. I had been rubbing it on the insides of my wrists, like the label stated. And, a month later, I had AF. I am just wondering if there is a better place to put it? I was thinking my inner thighs... closer to where it needs to be? Also, when I would put it on... my wrists would feel tingly... then they would feel bruised a few minutes later? Is that a normal feeling? Oh, one more... Should I take my TTC pre-o cocktail when I start it?!? Or forget those, and just take my Post-O cocktail?

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

I have no idea, Robyn. I just ordered a bunch of herbs and stuff from GNC last night. And, some progesterone cream.

Just one question about Prog. cream. I had been rubbing it on the insides of my wrists, like the label stated. And, a month later, I had AF. I am just wondering if there is a better place to put it? I was thinking my inner thighs... closer to where it needs to be? Also, when I would put it on... my wrists would feel tingly... then they would feel bruised a few minutes later? Is that a normal feeling? Oh, one more... Should I take my TTC pre-o cocktail when I start it?!? Or forget those, and just take my Post-O cocktail?

The progesterone cream I usually start 3 dpo through when AF shows up. I don't take it in the first half of the cycle. It can inhibit O from what I understand. I put it on the inside of my wrists, inner elbow, behind knees, shins, tops of feet, tops of hands, basically anywhere that the skin is pretty thin and there's not a lot of fat so that it will absorb quickly into the bloodstream. I alternate too - if I put it one place one day, I'll put it somewhere else the next. That may help with the tingling etc. for you if you spread it around a little.

Hope that maybe helps.....

[JulieBeth]

The new thread looks great Ashley, thanks!

Will someone look at my chart.. pleassssssse! My temps are really high and I'm not sure if it's good, bad or doesn't matter. I need some reassurance and I need to stop obsessing, ahh I hate this!

You chart does look good! :hugs:

[JulieBeth]

Good morning Ladies!

Ashley, the thread looks great! Thanks again for getting it started!


Well, FF gave me crosshairs. My intense pain in my abdomen has disappeared...wow, could I have really ovulated? That will be first time in a year then! Very exciting! I am 5 DPO and temps keep rising. Praying for a miracle!

[crystalannski]

Talked to my m/w office this morning and they gave me the names of the two REs they refer to - one is an hour+ away and the other is about 2 hrs. away but it's Dartmouth which is very highly regarded......so I'm torn. I'm going to make a decision today though so I can get the ball rolling.




Hey there! Your chart is looking AWESOME. In fact I would say it is super duper promising. Good luck!!!!! Can't wait to hear what happens :hugs:.

Cheers ladies!
Oh, that's a tough decision, I'm glad you are getting things going already though. I'm not sure if you are looking for opinions but if it were me, I think I would probably just go with the 2 hour one, it leaves less room for second guessing later on since it seems to be your better choice. Good luck :goodvibes:

Thanks for looking at my chart too :blush: I think I just need to settle down and see what happens in the next few days :giggle: it is still pretty early!


Well, FF gave me crosshairs. My intense pain in my abdomen has disappeared...wow, could I have really ovulated? That will be first time in a year then! Very exciting! I am 5 DPO and temps keep rising. Praying for a miracle!
:yay: congrats on the O! I'm really excited for you, I so hope this is your month :crossfingers: I'm 7 DPO so we are only a few days apart, I'll be stalking your chart for sure :giggle2:

You chart does look good! :hugs:

Thanks, I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much but compared to last month my chart looks GREAT, I obviously have hormones and I am Oing.... well at least this cycle anyway. Luckily I'm going to be super busy the rest of this week into next so hopefully I can keep my mind off of it :lostit:

[birdseye]

Here's my info:

Name you want to go by: Laura
TTC Info: TTC since March 2007 - cycle 19 started 11/15/08
Fertility Procedures: Semen analysis - perfect!! HSG - perfect!! PCOS blood test - positive for PCOS. :~ We did Femara (unmonitored) for 6 cycles. We are now doing Femara, Trigger shot, and TI (timed intercourse) for 3 cycles.
Color: Red

[birdseye]

Hi everyone!!

We had a great weekend. We stayed in a cabin that was built in the 1930's and is on the national register of historic places!! There was no phone (including cell service), no tv, and no internet. It was so nice to be away from all of those things for a few days. They did have electricity and a range, which I am glad they did because I am not sure I would have been able to cook over the fire. There was even a hook for a kettle to hang on over the flame!!

AF showed on Saturday, which is good. I have been known to have 50 day cycles - this one was only 33 days. I have an ultrasound appointment on Wednesday before Thanksgiving to check for follicle size. We also ordered the trigger shot today, and it should be arriving in the mail tomorrow. I am really ready to get going on this - hopefully it will work!!

I hope everyone else is doing well today!!

[kristinc]

Morning ladies!!!

Ashlet, the thread looks awesome!! Thanks for doing this for us...and i love my color btw....blue is my fave:wub:

Erin:wave: bye bye aunt flo!! come on big o! i think temping would be a good idea if you can remeber every morning...it gives you something else to obsess about which can be good or bad.....but obsess is what us ttc vets are best at right:rofl:

Delana- Have the kids been behaving better in the past few days? You are one strong mama!!

Crystal- I just looked at your chart and think it looks great! Temps are still good 7dpo:yay: Just a few more days of obsessing until you can whip out those pee sticks:cheerleader

[averysmom]

The new thread looks great Ashley, thanks!

Will someone look at my chart.. pleassssssse! My temps are really high and I'm not sure if it's good, bad or doesn't matter. I need some reassurance and I need to stop obsessing, ahh I hate this!

I think your chart looks good. You are 7dpo, I would think that you would be able to start testing in a few days.


Morning ladies!!!

Ashlet, the thread looks awesome!! Thanks for doing this for us...and i love my color btw....blue is my fave:wub:

Erin:wave: bye bye aunt flo!! come on big o! i think temping would be a good idea if you can remeber every morning...it gives you something else to obsess about which can be good or bad.....but obsess is what us ttc vets are best at right:rofl:

Delana- Have the kids been behaving better in the past few days? You are one strong mama!!

Crystal- I just looked at your chart and think it looks great! Temps are still good 7dpo:yay: Just a few more days of obsessing until you can whip out those pee sticks:cheerleader3:

Thanks, Kristin. They have been very good since that day. DH should be home a week from Wed. for Thanksgiving!! :lostit:

Laura- I'm so glad you had fun at your get-a-way. It sounds very romantic!!

AFM: I went to wholefoods to buy my supplements. I got a b-complex, fish oils, and the kids vitimans. I wanted to get d-pinitol, when I asked the lady looked at me like I had three eyes. They don't carry it.

Char- Where do you get yours? Do you have to order it? I'm gonna try the Vitiman Shoppe.

So starting tomorrow am. I will be taking b-complex (twice a day) fish oils (twice a day) Vitex and Red Rasberry Leaf tablets ( twice a day), and prenatals. I'll start the d-pinitol when I get it in.

I need more info on the prog cream. I'm thinking of starting that as well.

[kristinc]

Oh man!!! I just typed a really long post and then it went bye bye:cry:
So here i go again...

Robyn-:yay: for getting 2 names from your midwife. If I were you i would call them both and see how soon you can get in...heck if you ahve met your deductible for the year and can get in this year might as well. And most insurance plans if you met your deductible in the last 3 months of the year, you get to go in to next year having your deductible already met.....so then you get 15 months of post deductible insurance denefits! Also make sure both offices take your insurance and that you have infertility testing and treatment benefits:thumbsup:
As for supplements, if you are not currently taking a prenatal, i would ditch the b complex and just take the prenatal....it has a nice big dose of vit b and all of the other goodies that you need daily. I would also add in a fish oil (nordic naturals or carlsons-you can get both at most health food stores) and CoQ10. Both will help your egg quality! And get you dh on a mutliple and the fish & coq10 to help boost his spermies. Also, i ahve a bottle of vitex that i won't be using anymore, do you want it? As for the baby aspirin, it will help if you have blood clotting issues, but if not it likely won't hurt, so taht one is up to you:-)

Ashley- When i was using prog cream they told me to put it on my belly, the insides of my elbos and the backs of my knees....all areas of thin skin so the prog can absorb easily. It is natural prog cream right? I think the synthetic stuff has lost of side effects.

julie- :yay: for crosshairS!!!! Are you doing trigger shot too?

Laura- I can't wait to see how your US appt goes on wed...i ahve mine on thurs for suppression check:thumbsup: Are you using injectibles....:blush: I can't keep everyones stats straight...

[~Roses~]

Header looks great, I'm not in it though,lol. I posted my info. in the last thread. ;)

Crystal, your chart looks GREAT. I think it looks promising. {{hugs}} I know the waiting is torture!

Kristin, you reminded me that I need to get another bottle of fish oil capsules (like Nordic Naturals the best).

I've thought about getting the progesterone cream, but I think I'll be asking about progesterone from my OB/GYN and see what they think. I asked about it last time I was pg. after the two miscarriages and she thought I didn't need it. The new OB/GYN I see now will be more open to it I think. Will find out in a couple of months when I go in.

I'm still bummed about the 9 day (well, 8 days of no spotting) LP.

[CalebsMome]

Well ladies, guess what? I owe NOTHING to my RE!!! I called to get my balance to try to pay it off, and she said "oh honey, your balance is zero." I was like "umm, you want to run that by me again?" I'm so amazed. I got a bill that was $500 and then another for $300. I thought it was around $800, but noticed that I hadn't gotten a bill recently. I'm just amazed. DH was really excited. He said, so does that mean that everything we've done so far we could do again? To which I responded "you mean we could cycle again?" I thought for a minute and yeah, why not? We could try it again. :goodvibes:

Robyn: I would do the one that's two hours away as well, provided you can travel like that several times a month. I know for us, even in the same town, it was hard having to go several times a month, but I had DH at home to watch DS. DS freaked when I went to the ob/gyn appointments and they had to stick me. He would scream and cry and yell "no no hurt my mamma!" But, having said that, I'd really like the highly regarded one as well. My RE here was part of the team at Walter Reed that came up with the new IVF procedures and the new minimal stimulation protocol, so I felt really comfortable with him, but I would have traveled further had I thought someone else was better further away.

Crystal: Those temps are looking nice!

[JulieBeth]

Laura~ So glad you had a wonderful weekend! Sounds very relaxing and rustic! My husband would love something like that. Can't wait to hear about your U/S!

Kristin~ No, I am not doing the trigger shot. Just good ol' clomid. :goodvibes:

Erin~ What a wonderful surprise!! Here's to another cycle and hopefully the last! :lostit:

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Gah I typed out a whole long thing and it disappeared on me........grrrrrr......

Anyway - Erin that is wonderful about your RE balance! Whoooohoooooo!

So I am back from the health food store and armed with:

CoQ10 for DH and I
Fish Oil for DH and I
Ginseng for DH
Red Raspberry Leaf for me
Vitex for me
EPO for me
Baby aspirin for me

and I have my prenatals and my b6 supplement. So there we have it. Hope it works! ;)

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Crystal looks good mama!

Progesterone cream: Can you buy that in like walmart? If i can;t get into my docs on the 25th I might get that...h3ll it's worth a shot isn't it?

Robyn: did you talk to your baby asprin or did you self proscribe it? I am just wondering if it could be something i could do?

I have mad a vow this month that after DH and I dtd i am going to put my Diva cup in to help the lil swimers get to where they need to be. (way tmi sorry!) I know it works cause my last 2 m/c's i was doing that afterwards. I just hope it works this month.

Ok, house needs to be cleaned..FIL coming up for dinner again tonight. BBS!

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Oh I forgot, how does red rasberry tea do? I have some in the cupboard when i was trying to bring on labor with ds, so i could take that maybe? You can tell i am new to all the different ways to get preggers :blush: with both of the kids we just dtd and hoped for the best, lol

[birdseye]

original post by kristinc
Laura- I can't wait to see how your US appt goes on wed...i ahve mine on thurs for suppression check:thumbsup: Are you using injectibles....:blush: I can't keep everyones stats straight...

We are not doing injectables. We are doing 6 cycles of Femara w/trigger shot. The first three will be with timed intercourse. The second three will be with IUI. After that, we will be referred to an RE.

[McMamma38]

Hi everyone--Ashley I'm on cd#5 today post m/c.List looks great.:thumbsup:
My bleeding is almost gone--:lostit:

Delana--I ordered my d-Pinitol 600 online.Just google it--you'll see info and sites to order from.It was the same site that we both ordered the PCOS book from--they have a supplement store and great info.

Kristin thanks for the tip on COQ10--need to add that one for my almost 40yr old eggs.:giggle2: Need to buy more natural progest cream too--my old tube is almost gone.I put mine on my wrists and my belly.Maybe my belly is a bad idea--too much fat there.:blush: :banghead: :giggle:

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Oh I forgot, how does red rasberry tea do? I have some in the cupboard when i was trying to bring on labor with ds, so i could take that maybe? You can tell i am new to all the different ways to get preggers :blush: with both of the kids we just dtd and hoped for the best, lol

Yes red raspberry leaf also works in tea form. You just don't want to continue it after you get that beautiful BFP ;).

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Dang. I'm looking at a MOUNTAIN of capsules I'll be downing tomorrow morning :giggle: . Here we go!

[crystalannski]

Laura: I’m glad you had a great weekend, I knew you! Good luck with the ultrasound and the shot… what exactly is a trigger shot? :headscratch:

Delana: I can’t wait for you to get stated on all of this, I really hope it helps.

Erin: That’s awesome about not owing anything, good luck with the next cycle! :thumbsup:

Robyn: Good luck with the new cocktail, I hope it’s exactly what you need to get a good sticky bean this cycle!

Kirsten: So what was for dinner? :goodvibes:


I’m really frustrated this evening. I got 2 more bills in the mail today :banghead: So on top of my DH’s $120 SA and an extra $30 (on top of my already $20 co pay) for my first Ob/Gyn visit, I owe another $130 for my blood work and I haven’t even received the bill for my second visit or the internal ultrasound I got :banghead: My husband is going to call the insurance company but I don’t think any of this is covered. It’s just so frustrating because we already paid so much for his surgery, we didn’t expect to have to pay for all of this too. We’ve been trying really hard to save lately too, we need to either buy a bigger house or add on to this one. But with Christmas coming and all the expenses for DDs adoption (adoption announcements, clothes for all of us for our day in court and for her baby dedication at church :mrgreen: …), the saving isn’t going too well right now. I just don’t feel like having to pay all these Dr bills again too :cry:

[birdseye]

Laura: I’m glad you had a great weekend, I knew you! Good luck with the ultrasound and the shot… what exactly is a trigger shot? :headscratch:

A trigger shot is HCG. The Femara causes the follicles to develop and the trigger shot causes ovulation. Usually timed intercourse or IUI's are completed within 12-24 hours (if I remember right off the top of my head) to catch the egg. It helps with timing.

:thumbsup:

[mamaratliff]

Hi ladies! I haven't had time yet to read through our new thread. I was gone this weekend, so I feel behind. Butttt, I'm almost certain that I O'd on Saturday. I've had 2 days of high temps so far, and hopefully tomorrow's temp will confirm. I'm excited to be getting back to normal, and on with ttc. No more tta for us :) I'll be doing all of my new blood work tests next monday, only one more week of waiting for that. And then my hysteroscopy is scheduled for Dec 4'th. That should line up perfectly with my cycle this month. I was worried that I would have to change the hysteroscopy AGAIN if Af came, but she should be here, and gone by then. I'm praying for some answers this time. Even if it's just that we need to adjust the meds that I'm already on. Oh and here's my addition to the list

Name you want to go by: Nicole
Cycle Info: 2 DPO
Fertility Procedures: Hysteroscopy Dec 4'th, recurring m/c blood work to be done next week, already on ba, folic acid, b6, b12, and trying soy this next cycle.
Color you want your post in: Darkest Purple

[trying4more]

What's up All???

Sweet, a new thread!

Nothing new here! Crampy, but I'm sure it's just my mind!

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Kirsten: So what was for dinner? :goodvibes:


LOL, dh, FIL and kiddos had left over KFC chicken with potatoes and fries. I'm sorry things are piling up on you :hugs: mama! We went threw that this summer when another one of BIL's F*&k ups came to light with the farm...whole nother story thou. :cry:

Wave all! BBL to read some more...need to try and get some x-mas napkins cut before ds gets up. :goodvibes:

[McMamma38]

Good morning everyone!:goodvibes:
For those who want to order d-Pinitol 600 or other natural health solutions for PCOS pm me--I got my new d-Pinitol order yesterday and have the 1-800 number.
The link is --www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com.(natural health solutions for PCOS)
the customer service manager is Ann Lewis--email her at:ann@ovarian-cysts-pcos.com
Delana gets all the credit because after her dx in July--she'd pmed me about this site and the PCOS diet book"The Natural Diet Solution for PCOS and Infertility"--they also sell the natural supplements and have awesome info on it all and PCOS in general.They have a free e-mail news letter,wich I'm getting now.
I sent my copy of the book to Ashley.:thumbsup: :hugs:
I really believe the d-pinitol in particular got me pg this last time,since my Metformin and Actos rx's weren't cutting it anymore(like they used too)I only was on the supplements 2.5 months before getting pg.
So thanks Delana.:thumbsup:

Anyone know how long to expect to bleed following a m/c.I m/ced in my 6th week(but started spotting in my 5th and suspect my bean stopped growing then)
This is day #6 since I m/ced--it's real light,but I'm ready to be over this.

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

My m/c bleeding has left!!:lostit: I'll do a hpt thursday to make sure the HCG is out of my system so I can o and we can get back to ttc.:lostit:

YAY! That's really wonderful to hear. I hope you get a big beautiful STICKY BFP this month! :bighug:

I started my new herbal regimen this morning and am crossing my fingers for this month.....because of the chemical pg., AF is very heavy this month, so I hope she leaves soon.....CD 3 now but no end in sight yet.

[averysmom]

Good morning everyone!:goodvibes:
For those who want to order d-Pinitol 600 or other natural health solutions for PCOS pm me--I got my new d-Pinitol order yesterday and have the 1-800 number.
The link is --www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com.(natural health solutions for PCOS)
the customer service manager is Ann Lewis--email her at:ann@ovarian-cysts-pcos.com
Delana gets all the credit because after her dx in July--she'd pmed me about this site and the PCOS diet book"The Natural Diet Solution for PCOS and Infertility"--they also sell the natural supplements and have awesome info on it all and PCOS in general.They have a free e-mail news letter,wich I'm getting now.
I sent my copy of the book to Ashley.:thumbsup: :hugs:
I really believe the d-pinitol in particular got me pg this last time,since my Metformin and Actos rx's weren't cutting it anymore(like they used too)I only was on the supplements 2.5 months before getting pg.
So thanks Delana.:thumbsup: :hugs:

My m/c bleeding has left!!:lostit: I'll do a hpt thursday to make sure the HCG is out of my system so I can o and we can get back to ttc.:lostit:l

Thanks Mama. I still refer to my book all the time. It has great insight about PCOS. I sort of following the diet plan. I've cut out all sugar and dairy, and I'm eating lots of veggies, fruits, and almonds. I'm also eating very high protein. I've lost about 12lbs!!!:lostit: I signed up for the newsletter as well. I plan to order the d-pinitol 600 today. Oh I found a link about prog and pcos. It has a lot of good info too. Scroll down to where it says teenager and pcos. It's about a girl in her young 20's. It also has other great info about prog.
http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/category/can-progesterone-help-me/

I think I'm going to start prog. after I O till either AF show or the 1st trimester is over.

Char- I'm really glad that the bleeding has stopped.:lostit: Now maybe you can get pg really fast. :hugs:

Good Morning Girls!!!!! I woke up this morning feeling very positive about my game plan. Now if Dec. 12th would just get here fast. (That's when Dh returns from NY for good).

Now I need to get my rear in gear and :dishes: :laundry: :iron: :clothes: :cleanwindow:

[McMamma38]

Well I posted that the bleeding had stopped only to just now cramp a bit and have some more bleeding and endometrial gunk come out in the pot.Sigh--guess it's over when it's over.
It's very much stop and start since yesterday.Still bright red--so not done yet.
I got spoiled only having 4 day Af's--but I know this is different,I m/ced.I just cannot for the life of me remember how long I bled post m/c w/ my first m/c at 8 weeks.That one started out by passing a mucus type blood tinged plug,then brown-pink spotting the week before(w/ no cramping)until I hit the following week and the my body decided to cramp and m/c in week 8.
I was hopeing the spotting and light pink bleeding the week before I m/ced this last one would count and my m/c bleeding wouldn't be too long.Oh well.
Ob said I had a nice thick linning in there(evident from my u/s)

I'm soo ready to be done--both emotionally and physically.

Thanks for the link Delana.Congrats on the weight loss--that's awesome.
I'd lost 3 pounds when I was pg--due to more protien,lower carbs.I need to lose a lot more.I'm eating egg beaters w/ spinach and pepper jack cheese for breakfast everymorning and no carbs in the am.I actually feel fuller.

My plan is useing natural progesterone cream from about 3 dpo(or my best guess on that)--until af shows or end of first trimester.I need to buy more.I'm useing Emitra brand from the health food store.
Ashley--yes,only use it from o--onward.

[McMamma38]

YAY! That's really wonderful to hear. I hope you get a big beautiful STICKY BFP this month! :bighug:

I started my new herbal regimen this morning and am crossing my fingers for this month.....because of the chemical pg., AF is very heavy this month, so I hope she leaves soon.....CD 3 now but no end in sight yet.

Awe thanks.I posted that the bleeding had left a bit prematurely:blush: --had to go back and edit.
:hugs: :hugs: for heavy bleeding,no fun.I'm praying for you soo hard~That God blesses you w/a super sticky baby this first cycle post loss.I refuse to say the word"chemical"(like it didn't count as a loss or something.:cry: )I know it's the technical term--but it still hurts bad no matter how far you were or not.It was still preciose life,no matter how tiny.:hugs: :hugs:

[msmamabear]

Hi ladies. Apparently I am back :cry: Digital's can be wrong too. :crying:
But really, did I need this today of all days? I had to drive my husband to the airport for a week long business trip and who greets me at 5 am but AF :banghead:

So you can add me to the list:

Name you want to go by: Melissa
TTC Info: actively TTC since June of 08, no BC since pre-TTC #2, CD1 after a chemical pregnancy :cry:
Fertility Procedures: None. I am taking folic acid and iron supplements. Also drinking grapefruit juice to help produce more cm.

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Hi ladies. Apparently I am back :cry: Digital's can be wrong too. :crying:
But really, did I need this today of all days? I had to drive my husband to the airport for a week long business trip and who greets me at 5 am but AF :banghead:

So you can add me to the list:

Name you want to go by: Melissa
TTC Info: actively TTC since June of 08, no BC since pre-TTC #2, CD1 after a chemical pregnancy :cry:
Fertility Procedures: None. I am taking folic acid and iron supplements. Also drinking grapefruit juice to help produce more cm.

Oh nooooooooooo!!!!! I'm SO very sorry. I just had a chemical pg. as well, and it really really sucks. I'm sending many many hugs your way, we'll get through this and onto our REAL BFPs very very soon.............:bighug:

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Hi ladies. Apparently I am back :cry: Digital's can be wrong too. :crying:
But really, did I need this today of all days? I had to drive my husband to the airport for a week long business trip and who greets me at 5 am but AF :banghead:

So you can add me to the list:

Name you want to go by: Melissa
TTC Info: actively TTC since June of 08, no BC since pre-TTC #2, CD1 after a chemical pregnancy :cry:
Fertility Procedures: None. I am taking folic acid and iron supplements. Also drinking grapefruit juice to help produce more cm.

hugs mama! My first M/c was the same way...BFP with a equate HPT on 12 dpo, digi Pregnant 13 dpo and m/c 1 wk later :cry: IT totally sucks! hugs :hugs:

[~Roses~]

Melissa, I'm so sorry. :( And a crappy day to get af to boot. {{{hugs}}}

Charlotte, with the m/c that I didn't have a D&C for I bled for at least 2 weeks I think. I was in the 11th week though, when it happened. {{hugs}} I hope it's over soon for you and you can get going on TTC again!

I'm on CD3 today. My last cycle was only 24 days long!!!

[crystalannski]

Welcome Melissa, I'm so angry that you had to join us :cry: this just sucks, I am so sorry :hugs:

Charlotte, I hope all the bleeding comes to an end soon :hugs: I'm sure it's just a constant reminder.

I'm so upset for the 2 of you, I was so excited when you both got your BFP, I'll be praying for you both. Super sticky bean baby dust to everyone here :babydust: I'm sick of hearing this kind of news! :goodvibes:

[McMamma38]

Melissa--:hugs: :hugs: :hugs: I'm so sorry again.

Amen Crystal!!
Well no more bleeding since this am~cross fingers it's gone.:thumbsup:
Crystal did I remember you mentioning something negative about chromium? Please share--so I know to continue takeing or not.

[CalebsMome]

hi Charlotte! I think it was me about the chromium picolinate. There was a study I found that said that it caused mutations in DNA. I went looking for dosage information when you said what you took and it was different from what I was taking.

This is what I found on Wikipedia:

There are claims that the picolinate form of chromium supplementation aids in reducing insulin resistance, particularly in diabetics, but a meta-analysis of chromium supplementation studies showed no association between chromium and glucose or insulin concentrations for non-diabetics, and inconclusive results for diabetics.[6] This study has been challenged on the grounds that it excluded significant results.[7] Subsequent trials gave mixed results, with one finding no effect in people with impaired glucose tolerance,[8] but another seeing a small improvement in glucose resistance.[9]
In a review of these trials it was again concluded that chromium supplements had no effect on healthy people, but that there might be an improvement in glucose metabolism in diabetics, although the authors stated that the evidence for this effect remains weak.[10]
There is concern that chromium picolinate is more likely to cause DNA damage and mutation than other forms of trivalent chromium,[11] but these results are also debated.[12] Other studies indicate that chromium picolinate is safe even at very high doses.[13] In mice, chromium(III) picolinate supplementation results in skeletal defects in their offspring.[14] In fruit flies, chromium(III) picolinate supplementation generates chromosomal aberrations, impedes progeny development,[15] and causes sterility and lethal mutations.[16]

I freaked out and stopped taking it. I had only been on it a week. I kept my other supplements though. I found something else that said that the mutations were caused by putting chromium directly on cells and they said that wasn't how it really happened in your body. I talked to DH and we decided not to take the chance, but it seems to be very popular as of late. I never know what to think and there's always information for each side that seems valid. :dunno:

[smblake]

Ashley, great job! It looks awesome :hugs:. CD 2 here and nothing to report LOL. I'm going to go replenish my Vitex supply today and am also thinking of doing the baby aspirin thing. Anything else I should try? I don't have PCOS if that helps. I am also taking b6. I am making DH go on FertilAid for Men this cycle too :giggle:.

Talked to my m/w office this morning and they gave me the names of the two REs they refer to - one is an hour+ away and the other is about 2 hrs. away but it's Dartmouth which is very highly regarded......so I'm torn. I'm going to make a decision today though so I can get the ball rolling.



Robyn, how far are you guys from Fletcher Allen up in Burlington? We went to a doc there and loved her. Just curious.

[averysmom]

Melissa- :hugs: I'm sorry!!!

Erin- I would've stopped taking that too.

Robyn- Have you decided what dr your gonna see?

Crystal- Hi, I hope your having a good day!!!

AFM: I'm in a total bad mood. AF is probably on her way. I actually want her to come.

[mamaratliff]

So So So sorry Melissa :hugs: :hugs: It's just not fair. And it sucks. I'm praying for you.

[McMamma38]

Thanks Erin--I'm stopping it immediately.:thumbsup: That is something I dont feel comfortable useing now,esp.ttc.
I had stopped it when I got my bfp to be safe-even before knowing this.
I take as little as possible when pg--only the Metformin,folic acid and prenatals.I was told by my Endocrinologist to stay on Metformin the first 14 weeks because it keeps progesterone levels up in PCOS mamas to be and they think it cuts m/c rates down for us PCOS women.Then supposedly at 14 weeks the progesterone is made by the placenta instead of the ovaries.

Ashley--take chromium picolinate out of my fertility info.on the thread please.TIA.

[JulieBeth]

Melissa~I'm so sorry!! :hugs:




Anyone know anything about using OPK's as pregnancy tests? :headscratch:

[msmamabear]

Thanks everyone. :hugs: My day was pretty crappy, but thanks to a great friend I think it will be ok, at least until my hubby gets home and can stop. My son threw up while in the nursery during bible study so I had to leave. Then he got sick more once we got home. He then proceeded to take a nice warm shower and then came out fine. So he has been boucing off the walls all day cause I won't feed him as much food as he wants to eat. :rolleyes:

Julie, from what I have heard opk's can be used as preggo tests but they aren't as sensative so it takes a lot longer to get a positive on it.

[CalebsMome]

Charlotte: :thumbsup: I was hoping I didn't offend, but I wanted you to have the same info that I found incase you wanted to change from it as well. :goodvibes: I'm SO glad you guys are trying again. Sarah's going to be a great big sister! If I'm ever lucky enough to get pg again, those are the same meds I'd continue to take as well.

Robyn: How are you doing?

Melissa: I'm sorry you have to be back with us, but I'm glad you decided to join us again :hugs:

Julie: I think that for an OPK to be used as a pregnancy test, you have to know you ovulated and the test line has to be darker than the test line and you have to test after your af would have been due. :headscratch: I "think" I found that on the website with all the pictures of stick addicted to the stick maybe. I dunno, but I tried it and it didn't work for me, but I have PCOS so I think that throws a wrench in the system.

Kristin: What's shakin'? Do you travel for the baseline ultrasound or will and RE or OB near you do that? :crossfingers:

As for us, we're trying the supplements and I realized I've lost more weight than I thought I had lost. I put on a gown that I know was too small not that long ago, and it fits fine. I was SO excited. DH wants to do another cycle using the Femara instead of the Clomid. His thinking is that insurance paid for all we did before except the co-pay and meds that we have nothing to lose. I don't know though. I want to. The money was a big thing in stopping, but I'm in a good place right now. I still deeply deeply desire another child, but I'm okay right now. I can function, and not be SO overtaken by jealousy, etc. However, what if losing weight and calming down about it makes it work and we get a little one? My cup would runneth over. Caleb would be such a good big brother and he's almost 3 :cry: I don't know. I'm torn. I thought because of the money it wasn't even an option, but now I'm back to having to decide. DH is all for it. His thinking is just to not get our hopes up, but to at least give it a shot a while longer. I want to give him this that he desires so much, not that I don't. I just don't want to be back to where I was. DS helped one of the girls take care of the "real baby" weekend before last. It would cry and he would pat it on the back, if that didn't work he'd get the bottle, if that didn't work he would get a diaper, and if that didn't work he would say "what's wrong baby?" :giggle2: Any ideas?

PS: Our kitchen turned out beautifully! The backsplash isn't done yet though, so I'll post pics when that's done. :-D

[sblakeley]

Hello still in the thinking about all this group. Background on me, I'm Sarah my DD was born 8/14/07 and she was conceived naturally. We are now researching number two. i say researching because while pg with dd i was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, i had the tumor and my right ovary removed at 16 weeks, dd was a scheduled section at 34 weeks.

So now we begin the ttc journey again with several more bumps in the road to consider: i have a mirena with scheduled removal for the first week in jan. Then i have to see my cardiologist to be cleared by them, will be the least of the concerns. Then to the endocrine doc to make sure my thyroid is functioning properly and the mass on it have not grown (discovered during chemo).

So i guess i begin with ??'s. What is a good ttc multi vit? We want to know if my remaining ovary even works after chemo (no guarantee) how do we test this?

i know this isn't going to be an easy journey, so i'm turning to you the
'pro's' to begin my research so i go in jan fully informed of options and am not bullied.... not that i think my doc would bully me or could bully me...

i guess a lot of this from my end is no one ever has a baby after ovarian cancer (at least that i've found). most people don't have ovarian cancer at 26 either so i'm 'special' on all fronts.

[averysmom]

Hi Sarah. Welcome to the group. :hugs:

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Morning girls.

Welcome sarah!

I was doing some research yesterday. Got a question for you mama's who know much more about TTC remidies than I do :) Can i take baby asprin with out being prescribed by the doc to do so. With 3 early m/c's I wonder if it would help. If so when do you take it in your cycle? the whole thing? I am back to taking my prenatal, folic acid and b6 vitamins this month (after my 2 month break) I'm just wondering if the BA would help too. I need to check and see if i can find progesterone cream at walmart today or tomorrow when we go shopping.

[CalebsMome]

Morning girls.

Welcome sarah!

I was doing some research yesterday. Got a question for you mama's who know much more about TTC remidies than I do :) Can i take baby asprin with out being prescribed by the doc to do so. With 3 early m/c's I wonder if it would help. If so when do you take it in your cycle? the whole thing? I am back to taking my prenatal, folic acid and b6 vitamins this month (after my 2 month break) I'm just wondering if the BA would help too. I need to check and see if i can find progesterone cream at walmart today or tomorrow when we go shopping.

:grouphug Sarah I'm glad you're here with us. I don't have any advice, but all things are possible! You never know until you try. Maybe they can stimulate your other ovary with clomid or something and monitor a cycle to see what happens.


Kirstin: This is what I found on baby asprin. It's from sharedjourney.com

Recently, a number of different studies have been performed on the use of aspirin to increase fertility. Women who had experienced multiple miscarriages and who were undergoing IVF treatment were given low doses of aspirin daily. Subsequent pregnancy rates were then compared to pregnancy rates produced by women who received no aspirin therapy. Surpisingly, more than 45% of those women taking aspirin during treatment became pregnant, while only 28% of those women not taking aspirin were able to conceive.

Recent aspirin studies also show that aspirin may be helpful in increasing pregnancy rates in all women. Aspirin appears to increase the activity of the ovaries, allowing them to release multiple eggs during ovulation. It also appears to increase blood flow to the uterus, allowing for a thicker and healthier uterine lining.

[averysmom]

Good Morning Girls!!!! How are things this morning? It's cold here, in Dallas.

Erin- that's good info about the BA. I wondering if I should add it to my list of things to take.....I still have to order my d-pinitol. Hopefully I can get that done today.

[msmamabear]

I was doing some research on baby aspirin for my self on Fertility Friend and the general consensus is it won't hurt. I am going to go get some today along with the Origin Multi-Vitamin from target, its getting some rave reviews over on FF too. Oh, and I got to restock my grape fruit juice and opk's.

Retail therapy helps, right? :giggle: :crying: :gah: (I think I am running the emotional roller coaster today :laugh: )

[cakeums]

Sorry girls, I don't want to interrupt but just wanted to add that I take BA for recurrent miscarriage. I took it during my 4th pregnancy (chromosomal loss so obviously the BA couldn't have helped that) and during my only successful pregnancy. I'm taking it this time too.

A lot of doctors will recommend it as standard protocol to women who have gone through unexplained recurrent miscarriage (along with progesterone supplements and sometimes injectable blood thinners) and it is also used in women who have blood clotting disorders (sometimes instead of injectable blood thinners, sometimes in addition to, depending on the disorder and how bad it is) and some autoimmune disorders (I tested positive for elevated antinuclear antibodies back in 2004).

Anyway, my vote is that it can't hurt and may help when all is said and done.

[crystalannski]

:wave: Good afternoon ladies! I hope you all are having a nice day today. I wasn’t around much yesterday but I had a great day (thanks for asking Delana)! I was supposed to be out of the house most of the day yesterday but it didn’t seem to work out that way. My son had a visit scheduled with his bios (I usually drop him off then Eliana and I go shopping until he is done, we end up being out of the house from like 11-3) so we drove out there and they didn’t show. So then we drove all the way back home. The kids were really tired when we got home so I put them down for a nap. It was dark and snowy out, I turned their heater on so they were all warm and cuddly and they ended up sleeping till my husband came home at 5 :yikes: So I took that unexpected extra time off to catch up on my reading. I got more then halfway through Taking Charge of Your Fertility, I really like it, it is so thorough. I also had a meeting last night that got canceled so I had extra time to work on the baby blanket I am making for a friend’s baby shower that's on the 7th.

Julie: The temps look GREAT (I told you I’d be stalking :mrgreen: )!!! Ahhh I can’t wait for you BFP!!!!!!!!!!! :lostit:

Erin: Congrats on the weight loss :highfive: That’s so sweet about your DH and DS, they sound like great ‘guys’. I bet your DH wants a little daddy’s girl, doesn't he… oh that would be too cute, I’m sure your DS would just love a little sister! Good luck with the decision! As you can obviously tell I think you should go for it!

Hi Sarah (our first foster baby’s name was Sarah… oh I miss her so much still) welcome to the group! Sounds like you have quiet the journey ahead :hugs: . I hope that you are able to come against all the odds and get PG after all of this! Good luck on the research, I have no advice for you, I just wanted to welcome you and wish you good luck! :goodvibes:

[JulieBeth]

Crystal~ That is sooo funny, I was stalking your chart earlier and was going to tell you Yaayyyy for rising temps!! When are you testing?? I am really trying to hold out until next week...we will so how the temps look :)

[crystalannski]

Crystal~ That is sooo funny, I was stalking your chart earlier and was going to tell you Yaayyyy for rising temps!! When are you testing?? I am really trying to hold out until next week...we will so how the temps look :)

Oh my temps for the last two days aren't the most accurate. Yesterday the babies both woke up at 5:15 so I just temped then instead of at 5:45 when I usually temp (not that big of a difference I'm sure) but today my husband's alarm never went off so I didn't temp until 7 when mine went off. I'm not planning on testing until Tuesday. Eliana's adoption is going to be finalized that day so if I get a BFN I wont be too bummed since we have been waiting for this day since January 2nd! I almost never test early anymore anyway, I just cant take the BFN, I take it way too hard :cry: So I'll just have to wait and see. When are you planning on testing? :mrgreen:



QOTW: I thought maybe it would be fun if we did a photo sharing thing in here. I know we just did one in the TTC fourm but only a few of us posted our pictures there. I want to see who I've been talking to the past few weeks :mrgreen: So what does everyone think?

[averysmom]

Crystal- Your chart looks awesome!!! I'm all in for posting pics.!!

[~Roses~]

Are any of you on facebook? I have a picture of myself on there in my profile. :)

Sarah, welcome! I don't really have the answers to your questions, just on the prenatal, I get mine at Costco, Nature's something...they seem to be fine though, I've been taking them for quite awhile.

And with all the talk on baby aspirin and it possibly helping recurrent miscarriage, I may start that closer to when we TTC. It sounds like it can't hurt. May as well try.

[JulieBeth]

Oh my temps for the last two days aren't the most accurate. Yesterday the babies both woke up at 5:15 so I just temped then instead of at 5:45 when I usually temp (not that big of a difference I'm sure) but today my husband's alarm never went off so I didn't temp until 7 when mine went off. I'm not planning on testing until Tuesday. Eliana's adoption is going to be finalized that day so if I get a BFN I wont be too bummed since we have been waiting for this day since January 2nd! I almost never test early anymore anyway, I just cant take the BFN, I take it way too hard :cry: So I'll just have to wait and see. When are you planning on testing? :mrgreen:



QOTW: I thought maybe it would be fun if we did a photo sharing thing in here. I know we just did one in the TTC fourm but only a few of us posted our pictures there. I want to see who I've been talking to the past few weeks :mrgreen: So what does everyone think?


I know, I am really trying to hold out until at least 12 DPO. I know how you feel, I can't stand seeing the BFN. That's sooo super exciting about the adoption though, we would love to adopt!

[JulieBeth]

I'll start the photos!

Here's me and my man!
Too bad I smushed his eye in this pic! lol
http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/JulieBallentine/halloween003-1.jpg

[averysmom]

Julie- Cute pic!!! I'll have to find a pic, but my avatar is me for the mean time.


UGGG!!! I'm so frustrated, I just got a ticket for running a stop sign in my neigborhood. I picked up my ds and my friends ds from school and we dropped him off and when we left I made a right turn and the officer said I ran a stop sign. Then when I explained to him that ds had to go potty really bad he made me wait for 20min. This is one way to ruin my perfectly good day!!!

[JulieBeth]

Delana~ That is such a bummer!! It would have totally ruined my day too!

[crystalannski]

Are any of you on facebook? I have a picture of myself on there in my profile. :)


Oh, I'm on facebook (and myspace too)! But I'll only make you my friend if you promise never to mention anything publicly about us TTC :blush: No one IRL knows we are trying and I like it that way :giggle: Oh and you have to tell me how to add you since I have no clue!

Delana, that really sucks about the ticket and the jerky cop :yuck: that would ruin my day too. I have actually never gotten a ticket, I almost did twice when I was younger but I got out of both of them!

Ok, here's my picture. I think it's a funny picture, with us standing in front of the barn/shed thing it looks like DH should be holding a pitch fork or something :roflmbo: It was our 5th anniversary (this past May) we got all dressed up so I had my MIL take our picture when we dropped the babies off to them... I hate having my picture taken :blush:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll253/crystalannski/DSCN0873.jpg

Where's everyone else today???

[birdseye]

I had a really bad day.

It all started with my dog. I love my dog, but he seems to be a constant revolving door of problems. He is a poodle and in desperate need of a hair cut. So, I got up early this morning to take him to the groomer. I was talking to him and pushed his hair back to see his eyes (yes, his hair is so long, you can't see his eyes). I asked him if he was ready for a hair cut so he could see, and I noticed that his left eye had milky puss coming out of it. I canceled the grooming appointment and made a vet appointment. It turns out he must have run into something (he has cataracts, and the hair in his eye, so he cannot see very well) and scratched the cornea. The vet said that if we had waited to get him seen, he could have lost his sight rather quickly. He came home with 3 meds.

Then DH and I had Dr's visits with our PCP. DH got a flu shot, and I decided against it this year because I do not want to mess with the fertility stuff. (I actually need flu shots because I have chronic asthma). The dr. did not like that I declined, but didn't fight with me either.

For dinner, I did not have enough cheese, and I dropped an opened package of cookies all over the pantry floor. I left them there.

We got our trigger shot in the mail today. I am overwhelmed.

Tonight we went to a small group with our church. A very happy couple announced they are 11 weeks pregnant. We are the only ones in the group without kids. Another couple is finalizing an international adoption.

I am in the middle of my Femara meds, and just emotional. My house is a wreck and my family will be here in a few days.

Ugg. Thanks for listening.

I will try again tomorrow.

BTW, I will see if I can't get a picture added tonight. For now, here is a picture of our dog, AJ.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg)

[katina128]

Hi girls. Sorry I went awol on ya. I've been on a roller coaster ride the past few days with my body and temps. But, it all came crashing down today after I went for a beta, which was negative, and then AF showed up finally. Stinkin' huzzy!! Oh well, I knew it was coming at least. I'm onto a new cycle and need to call tomorrow to see what my RE wants to do with me this month. I hope everyone had a great day! I'm off to read and catch up on the thread.

[JulieBeth]

I had a really bad day.

It all started with my dog. I love my dog, but he seems to be a constant revolving door of problems. He is a poodle and in desperate need of a hair cut. So, I got up early this morning to take him to the groomer. I was talking to him and pushed his hair back to see his eyes (yes, his hair is so long, you can't see his eyes). I asked him if he was ready for a hair cut so he could see, and I noticed that his left eye had milky puss coming out of it. I canceled the grooming appointment and made a vet appointment. It turns out he must have run into something (he has cataracts, and the hair in his eye, so he cannot see very well) and scratched the cornea. The vet said that if we had waited to get him seen, he could have lost his sight rather quickly. He came home with 3 meds.

Then DH and I had Dr's visits with our PCP. DH got a flu shot, and I decided against it this year because I do not want to mess with the fertility stuff. (I actually need flu shots because I have chronic asthma). The dr. did not like that I declined, but didn't fight with me either.

For dinner, I did not have enough cheese, and I dropped an opened package of cookies all over the pantry floor. I left them there.

We got our trigger shot in the mail today. I am overwhelmed.

Tonight we went to a small group with our church. A very happy couple announced they are 11 weeks pregnant. We are the only ones in the group without kids. Another couple is finalizing an international adoption.

I am in the middle of my Femara meds, and just emotional. My house is a wreck and my family will be here in a few days.

Ugg. Thanks for listening.

I will try again tomorrow.

BTW, I will see if I can't get a picture added tonight. For now, here is a picture of our dog, AJ.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg)


:hugs: Oooh no!! When it rains, it pours huh?? So sorry to hear about your pups eye, but so glad that you caught it in time! I hope tomorrow is a much better day for you!

[JulieBeth]

Hi girls. Sorry I went awol on ya. I've been on a roller coaster ride the past few days with my body and temps. But, it all came crashing down today after I went for a beta, which was negative, and then AF showed up finally. Stinkin' huzzy!! Oh well, I knew it was coming at least. I'm onto a new cycle and need to call tomorrow to see what my RE wants to do with me this month. I hope everyone had a great day! I'm off to read and catch up on the thread.

Ah crap! Dang AF always has to ruin things! :yuck: I hope this cycle you get your BFP!

[birdseye]

Ok, here's a pic.

This is our engagement picture. We have not had any good pictures taken in the last three years.

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr292/clothbylaura/scan0001.jpg

[RitaLawrence]

Good Read:
The Infertility Cure
By: Randine Lewis

http://www.amazon.com/Infertility-Cure-Ancient-Wellness-Pregnant/dp/0316159212/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227171186&sr=8-1

We TTCd for 5 years with our 1st, this book had so much to do with our success :fami01:
There are some heartwarming reviews on Amazon too!


Aloha!

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Hi ladies! Hugs to all. Sorry I was MIA the past few days.....on Tuesday mid-morning I came down with a horrendous and sudden stomach bug that totally destroyed me for the rest of the day, ugh. And then yesterday our cable modem at our house died so we had no internet - I was able to exchange the modem though and get it hooked back up last night late.

I'll come back in a bit for personals..........but quickly, to answer you Melissa I was planning on trying to go to Dartmouth to their fertility clinic.........we're a good 2.5 hrs. or so south of Burlington so Dartmouth would actually be much closer......but you never know. I'd love to know the name of the person you saw just in case :). Thanks!

I *think* AF will be leaving today or tomorrow - it was definitely longer/heavier than normal, so hopefully I have a nice clean slate now for a sticky bean soon *fingers crossed*.

Back soon.

[~mypreciousbabies~]

Morning girls.

Just poping in. I need to get to work on the rest of my craft fair stuff for tomorrow.At least I don't have to pack tonight (althou i probably should! :giggle:) the CF doesn't start until 12, gives me time to have pancakes with FIL, drop the kids off at SIL's (about 10 mins away) and drive 1/2 way back to the town hall here in our lil town and set up :) So tomorrow and saturday i won't be around during the day.

:hugehugs: to those who have had bad days and AF's starting Hope fully today will be better.

Oh! I asked at walmart about Progesterone cream and they had to order it. Hopefully They can get it in and after I O this next week i can start that too...I started the BA last night with the rest of my vitamins.

I will get a pic uploaded soon. It's Only three years old, :giggle2: ~BBS

[averysmom]

I had a really bad day.

It all started with my dog. I love my dog, but he seems to be a constant revolving door of problems. He is a poodle and in desperate need of a hair cut. So, I got up early this morning to take him to the groomer. I was talking to him and pushed his hair back to see his eyes (yes, his hair is so long, you can't see his eyes). I asked him if he was ready for a hair cut so he could see, and I noticed that his left eye had milky puss coming out of it. I canceled the grooming appointment and made a vet appointment. It turns out he must have run into something (he has cataracts, and the hair in his eye, so he cannot see very well) and scratched the cornea. The vet said that if we had waited to get him seen, he could have lost his sight rather quickly. He came home with 3 meds.

Then DH and I had Dr's visits with our PCP. DH got a flu shot, and I decided against it this year because I do not want to mess with the fertility stuff. (I actually need flu shots because I have chronic asthma). The dr. did not like that I declined, but didn't fight with me either.

For dinner, I did not have enough cheese, and I dropped an opened package of cookies all over the pantry floor. I left them there.

We got our trigger shot in the mail today. I am overwhelmed.

Tonight we went to a small group with our church. A very happy couple announced they are 11 weeks pregnant. We are the only ones in the group without kids. Another couple is finalizing an international adoption.

I am in the middle of my Femara meds, and just emotional. My house is a wreck and my family will be here in a few days.

Ugg. Thanks for listening.

I will try again tomorrow.

BTW, I will see if I can't get a picture added tonight. For now, here is a picture of our dog, AJ.

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/images/1/e6d1b2eed524620cf31e49a3eeffe482.jpg)

Wow. I'm sorry about your bad day. Today is a new day!! :hugs:

Hi girls. Sorry I went awol on ya. I've been on a roller coaster ride the past few days with my body and temps. But, it all came crashing down today after I went for a beta, which was negative, and then AF showed up finally. Stinkin' huzzy!! Oh well, I knew it was coming at least. I'm onto a new cycle and need to call tomorrow to see what my RE wants to do with me this month. I hope everyone had a great day! I'm off to read and catch up on the thread.

Sorry AF showed:banghead:

Hi ladies! Hugs to all. Sorry I was MIA the past few days.....on Tuesday mid-morning I came down with a horrendous and sudden stomach bug that totally destroyed me for the rest of the day, ugh. And then yesterday our cable modem at our house died so we had no internet - I was able to exchange the modem though and get it hooked back up last night late.

I'll come back in a bit for personals..........but quickly, to answer you Melissa I was planning on trying to go to Dartmouth to their fertility clinic.........we're a good 2.5 hrs. or so south of Burlington so Dartmouth would actually be much closer......but you never know. I'd love to know the name of the person you saw just in case :). Thanks!


I *think* AF will be leaving today or tomorrow - it was definitely longer/heavier than normal, so hopefully I have a nice clean slate now for a sticky bean soon *fingers crossed*.

Back soon.

I'm glad your feeling better.

[averysmom]

Oh, I'm on facebook (and myspace too)! But I'll only make you my friend if you promise never to mention anything publicly about us TTC :blush: No one IRL knows we are trying and I like it that way :giggle: Oh and you have to tell me how to add you since I have no clue!

Delana, that really sucks about the ticket and the jerky cop :yuck: that would ruin my day too. I have actually never gotten a ticket, I almost did twice when I was younger but I got out of both of them!

Ok, here's my picture. I think it's a funny picture, with us standing in front of the barn/shed thing it looks like DH should be holding a pitch fork or something :roflmbo: It was our 5th anniversary (this past May) we got all dressed up so I had my MIL take our picture when we dropped the babies off to them... I hate having my picture taken :blush:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll253/crystalannski/DSCN0873.jpg

Where's everyone else today???

I think your pic is cute. Ya'll make a cute couple!!

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Excuse me to begin, this will be a very long post LOL.

Hello still in the thinking about all this group. Background on me, I'm Sarah my DD was born 8/14/07 and she was conceived naturally. We are now researching number two. i say researching because while pg with dd i was diagnosed with ovarian cancer, i had the tumor and my right ovary removed at 16 weeks, dd was a scheduled section at 34 weeks.

So now we begin the ttc journey again with several more bumps in the road to consider: i have a mirena with scheduled removal for the first week in jan. Then i have to see my cardiologist to be cleared by them, will be the least of the concerns. Then to the endocrine doc to make sure my thyroid is functioning properly and the mass on it have not grown (discovered during chemo).

So i guess i begin with ??'s. What is a good ttc multi vit? We want to know if my remaining ovary even works after chemo (no guarantee) how do we test this?

i know this isn't going to be an easy journey, so i'm turning to you the
'pro's' to begin my research so i go in jan fully informed of options and am not bullied.... not that i think my doc would bully me or could bully me...

i guess a lot of this from my end is no one ever has a baby after ovarian cancer (at least that i've found). most people don't have ovarian cancer at 26 either so i'm 'special' on all fronts.

Welcome Sarah........it's really nice to have you join us :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

As for us, we're trying the supplements and I realized I've lost more weight than I thought I had lost. I put on a gown that I know was too small not that long ago, and it fits fine. I was SO excited. DH wants to do another cycle using the Femara instead of the Clomid. His thinking is that insurance paid for all we did before except the co-pay and meds that we have nothing to lose. I don't know though. I want to. The money was a big thing in stopping, but I'm in a good place right now. I still deeply deeply desire another child, but I'm okay right now. I can function, and not be SO overtaken by jealousy, etc. However, what if losing weight and calming down about it makes it work and we get a little one? My cup would runneth over. Caleb would be such a good big brother and he's almost 3 :cry: I don't know. I'm torn. I thought because of the money it wasn't even an option, but now I'm back to having to decide. DH is all for it. His thinking is just to not get our hopes up, but to at least give it a shot a while longer. I want to give him this that he desires so much, not that I don't. I just don't want to be back to where I was. DS helped one of the girls take care of the "real baby" weekend before last. It would cry and he would pat it on the back, if that didn't work he'd get the bottle, if that didn't work he would get a diaper, and if that didn't work he would say "what's wrong baby?" :giggle2: Any ideas?

PS: Our kitchen turned out beautifully! The backsplash isn't done yet though, so I'll post pics when that's done. :-D

Hooray for weight loss! (I'm still 20 lbs. over pre-pg. weight, which kills me :() and I can't wait to see pics of your kitchen!

Well no more bleeding since this am~cross fingers it's gone.:thumbsup:


Hope it's still gone, many many hugs...........I think AF is finally leaving me today......

Sorry girls, I don't want to interrupt but just wanted to add that I take BA for recurrent miscarriage. I took it during my 4th pregnancy (chromosomal loss so obviously the BA couldn't have helped that) and during my only successful pregnancy. I'm taking it this time too.

A lot of doctors will recommend it as standard protocol to women who have gone through unexplained recurrent miscarriage (along with progesterone supplements and sometimes injectable blood thinners) and it is also used in women who have blood clotting disorders (sometimes instead of injectable blood thinners, sometimes in addition to, depending on the disorder and how bad it is) and some autoimmune disorders (I tested positive for elevated antinuclear antibodies back in 2004).

Anyway, my vote is that it can't hurt and may help when all is said and done.

Thank you so much for that. I just started on BA and am hoping it will help.....

I had a really bad day.

It all started with my dog. I love my dog, but he seems to be a constant revolving door of problems. He is a poodle and in desperate need of a hair cut. So, I got up early this morning to take him to the groomer. I was talking to him and pushed his hair back to see his eyes (yes, his hair is so long, you can't see his eyes). I asked him if he was ready for a hair cut so he could see, and I noticed that his left eye had milky puss coming out of it. I canceled the grooming appointment and made a vet appointment. It turns out he must have run into something (he has cataracts, and the hair in his eye, so he cannot see very well) and scratched the cornea. The vet said that if we had waited to get him seen, he could have lost his sight rather quickly. He came home with 3 meds.

Then DH and I had Dr's visits with our PCP. DH got a flu shot, and I decided against it this year because I do not want to mess with the fertility stuff. (I actually need flu shots because I have chronic asthma). The dr. did not like that I declined, but didn't fight with me either.

For dinner, I did not have enough cheese, and I dropped an opened package of cookies all over the pantry floor. I left them there.

We got our trigger shot in the mail today. I am overwhelmed.

Tonight we went to a small group with our church. A very happy couple announced they are 11 weeks pregnant. We are the only ones in the group without kids. Another couple is finalizing an international adoption.

I am in the middle of my Femara meds, and just emotional. My house is a wreck and my family will be here in a few days.

Ugg. Thanks for listening.

I will try again tomorrow.



Ugh, I'm so sorry for your day. I hope it got a little better and today is a better one altogether, many many many hugs......

Hi girls. Sorry I went awol on ya. I've been on a roller coaster ride the past few days with my body and temps. But, it all came crashing down today after I went for a beta, which was negative, and then AF showed up finally. Stinkin' huzzy!! Oh well, I knew it was coming at least. I'm onto a new cycle and need to call tomorrow to see what my RE wants to do with me this month. I hope everyone had a great day! I'm off to read and catch up on the thread.

Well boo for AF but good to know what's happening. I think with TTC I hate the uncertainty and anxiety more than anything :yuck: .

Here is a pic of me with my darling boy this past June when we went for a Day Out with Thomas LOL..........it's not a wonderful pic, but you get the idea.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2549438011_3cb60beee7.jpg

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

OK so does anyone else take what feels like a million supplements and if so, do you feel kinda yucky from taking all of them? I'm wondering if I should be spacing mine out more......this morning I took (and this includes my scrips):

Lexapro
Claritin
Vitex
Red Raspberry Leaf
Omega-3
Prenatal Multi
B6
Baby aspirin
CoQ10
Evening primrose oil

I'm just burping up a storm right now (TMI, sorry :yuck: ). As it is, I need to take another EPO and some more red raspberry leaf later today, should I just switch to doing like half in the morning though and half before bed? I feel kind of yuck. I did eat breakfast too and drink a few glasses of water.

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Well, I'm sorry, it's just the Robyn thread this morning :giggle: . I had to come back though as I just spoke with my m/w office again and it is sounding like the midwife who was reviewing my case for referral doesn't think the specialist will even agree to see me as I have "had a pregnancy" within the past year. Well, uh, I lost that one. And then I just got pregnant and lost that one too. So how many pregnancies do I have to lose for them to agree to see me? WTF?!?!?!

And also, as it turns out my insurance won't cover anything for infertility except maybe a diagnosis anyway. So I'm kind of at a loss, I don't have any idea what to do. :( I'm really pissed though.

Sorry, had to vent.

[JaylasMommy]

:hugs: Robyn. :hugs: I'm so sorry.

I'm at a loss as to when to go to an RE. Because, I want to get to one quick, but I am only 22, and I am terrified to hear, "Try some more"... We've been trying for almost a year and a half, how much longer do I need to try?!?
As soon as I start taking my TTC cocktail again, I will feel the same way.

I have:

Multivitamin
Folic Acid
Light Prenatal
Calcium [i have a horrid time getting enough]
Saw Palmetto
Cinnamon
Vitex
And, an estrogen pill, which has Evening Primrose, Soy Isoflavones, Black Cohosh, and some other things in it I can't remember.
I just started doing progesterone cream again.
And, I will be adding a glass or two of green tea a day, and at least 64 ounces of water a day.
I'm trying to cut dairy out of my diet, but I just LOVE cheese on my subs from Subway... :giggle2:

:thud: That's a lotta stuff to do to TTC... But, if it all brings me the results I want, then it's worth it, right?!?

[mamaratliff]

Well, I'm sorry, it's just the Robyn thread this morning :giggle: . I had to come back though as I just spoke with my m/w office again and it is sounding like the midwife who was reviewing my case for referral doesn't think the specialist will even agree to see me as I have "had a pregnancy" within the past year. Well, uh, I lost that one. And then I just got pregnant and lost that one too. So how many pregnancies do I have to lose for them to agree to see me? WTF?!?!?!

And also, as it turns out my insurance won't cover anything for infertility except maybe a diagnosis anyway. So I'm kind of at a loss, I don't have any idea what to do. :( I'm really pissed though.

Sorry, had to vent.

ugh that sucks mama. However I've been dealing with this issue for a while, and there are a couple ways to sorta get what you want anyway :giggle: The first is trying to see if there are any regular OB's that are covered under your insurance that specalize in infertility. That way, they have the knowledge and the info that you need, but you don't have to pay the extra cost (or wait until they decide it's appropriate) to be referred to an RE. I did this a couple years ago, and it turned out to be awesome. Also since you've had 2 losses now, you may want to check with your insurance, because I know for me at least I have absolutely zero infertility coverage. However.... I've been informed that the testing (and hopefully treatment) for recurring pregnancy loss is not considered infertility. So I'm getting all of the testing and such paid for, by clarifying that it is NOT infertility testing. Even though many of the tests are the same tests that they would do for an infertility workup. Insurance sucks! I'm so sorry that you are having to work around all of this kind of crap. :hugs:

[~Roses~]

Oh Robyn, that sucks. I know that after I had my second m/c I asked my dr what else we could do and she said that they really don't do anything until after the 3rd miscarriage. I was mad, but thankfully my next one was sticky. My friend however, had two miscarriages also and went to the same dr. When they told her the "need to have 3 miscarriages" spiel, she went to a different place and they put her on progesterone right away with her next pregnancy. If I don't hear what I want to hear (like, I don't *want* to have more miscarriages before they will help me!), I'll go somewhere else.

Why is 3 losses the issue? Because the first two are obviously flukes? Who wrote that rule? Ugh. Anyways, sorry went off there! I'm going to check out that Infertility Cure book from the library, among others. Anything helps.

[crystalannski]

Good Read:
The Infertility Cure
By: Randine Lewis

http://www.amazon.com/Infertility-Cure-Ancient-Wellness-Pregnant/dp/0316159212/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227171186&sr=8-1

We TTCd for 5 years with our 1st, this book had so much to do with our success :fami01:
There are some heartwarming reviews on Amazon too!


Aloha!
I agree, it is a really good book. I plan on starting some herbs suggested in this book next cycle. I may also look into acupuncture!


I think your pic is cute. Ya'll make a cute couple!!
Aww thanks Delana :blush: !


Wow Julie, I’m so jealous of your temps, just a few more days and I think you should test :mrgreen: How early were you able to get BFPs with your other 2?


Birdseye: (What is your name? I don’t think you ever told us) :hugs: I’m so sorry about your day yesterday, I hope today is going a little better for you. Thanks for sharing your picture, you guys look so young!


Katina: :hugs: AF sucks! I hope you have better luck this cycle!


Robyn: If it were me I’d split the supplements up some. That really sucks about not thinking you will be accepted, I think Nicole gave some really good advice though.


Kirsten: Good luck at the craft fair, let us know how it goes!


Ashley: I’ve got the cheese problem too :blush: I love dairy :blush: I agree with you, it may seem like a lot to be doing right now but you’ll forget all about it when you see that BFP!!!


Kristin: Where have you been this week?!! How have you been feeling? I hope everything's alright :goodvibes:

[cakeums]

Robyn, even if your insurance doesn't have IF coverage, they should cover recurrent m/c. Since you've had two in a row that should qualify you; the days of insurance covering only after three in a row are pretty much over.

ETA: Some HCP's will say that you need to have 3 in a row before they'll do testing. Check with your insurance company first, they are the ones who determine what you're eligible for.

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Robyn, even if your insurance doesn't have IF coverage, they should cover recurrent m/c. Since you've had two in a row that should qualify you; the days of insurance covering only after three in a row are pretty much over.

ETA: Some HCP's will say that you need to have 3 in a row before they'll do testing. Check with your insurance company first, they are the ones who determine what you're eligible for.

Thanks everyone. Some really good advice/thoughts here :hugs:. I'm kind of in limbo, as I'm not sure my m/w practice will view me in EITHER the "infertility" OR the "recurrent m/c" columns.....this being simply because my 2nd miscarriage which I just had was SUPER early and I'm not sure whether they would treat that "chemical" pregnancy as a true loss or not. So either I'm not infertile because I've been pregnant this past year, or I am not a case of recurrent m/c because I've only had one "real" loss (@ 9 wks. in March).

[birdseye]

Birdseye: (What is your name? I don’t think you ever told us) :hugs: I’m so sorry about your day yesterday, I hope today is going a little better for you. Thanks for sharing your picture, you guys look so young!

I'm Laura. Maybe I should put that in my siggy.
Actually, we were 27 and 32 in that picture. We are now 30 and 35!! It is actually frustrating because if and when I tell someone we are dealing with IF, they say, "but you are so young, you have so much time!!" Uh, not if we want several kids.

[JulieBeth]

Oh Robyn, that sucks. I know that after I had my second m/c I asked my dr what else we could do and she said that they really don't do anything until after the 3rd miscarriage. I was mad, but thankfully my next one was sticky. My friend however, had two miscarriages also and went to the same dr. When they told her the "need to have 3 miscarriages" spiel, she went to a different place and they put her on progesterone right away with her next pregnancy. If I don't hear what I want to hear (like, I don't *want* to have more miscarriages before they will help me!), I'll go somewhere else.

Why is 3 losses the issue? Because the first two are obviously flukes? Who wrote that rule? Ugh. Anyways, sorry went off there! I'm going to check out that Infertility Cure book from the library, among others. Anything helps.

Oh man, that is awful! I think one miscarriage is too many!:hugs: Are you planning on finding a new doctor?

[JulieBeth]

Wow Julie, I’m so jealous of your temps, just a few more days and I think you should test :mrgreen: How early were you able to get BFPs with your other 2?





I knoooowww..I am so impatient. I want to test soo bad but don't want another crappy BFN staring back at me. I have no clue with the other two, I was 18 when I got pregnant with Jake and didn't know anything about cycles. Then with Clara I just knew I was pregnant, but got BFN a couple times before a BFP. So, I am nervous about testing now.

Your temps are still looking promising! :hugs: It would be awesome to have a due date buddy!

[kristinc]

Well, I'm sorry, it's just the Robyn thread this morning :giggle: . I had to come back though as I just spoke with my m/w office again and it is sounding like the midwife who was reviewing my case for referral doesn't think the specialist will even agree to see me as I have "had a pregnancy" within the past year. Well, uh, I lost that one. And then I just got pregnant and lost that one too. So how many pregnancies do I have to lose for them to agree to see me? WTF?!?!?!

And also, as it turns out my insurance won't cover anything for infertility except maybe a diagnosis anyway. So I'm kind of at a loss, I don't have any idea what to do. :( I'm really pissed though.

Sorry, had to vent.


Robyn, it doesn't matter if your m/w doesn't think they will want to see you.....it isn't up to her to make that decision. I would call the RE and tell them that you have ahd 2 losses in the past year!!! And he would be an idiot if he denied you care, you are exactly the kind of person who needs to get checked out! Just be persistent my dear. And again you don't need a referral, you just need to call the doctor's office and make an appt:thumbsup: I get so angry when helath care people try to play down your concerns.....you know that something is not right and health care professionals need to respect that and take a look at what is going on.

ok off of :soapbox: now:blush: Can you tell the meds are affecting my mood today:blush: :blush:

Well as for me i passed my basseline and ultrasound this am, so i start the shots tomorrow!!!! Woot woot!

[kristinc]

:hugs: Robyn. :hugs: I'm so sorry.

I'm at a loss as to when to go to an RE. Because, I want to get to one quick, but I am only 22, and I am terrified to hear, "Try some more"... We've been trying for almost a year and a half, how much longer do I need to try?!?
As soon as I start taking my TTC cocktail again, I will feel the same way.

I have:

Multivitamin
Folic Acid
Light Prenatal
Calcium [i have a horrid time getting enough]
Saw Palmetto
Cinnamon
Vitex
And, an estrogen pill, which has Evening Primrose, Soy Isoflavones, Black Cohosh, and some other things in it I can't remember.
I just started doing progesterone cream again.
And, I will be adding a glass or two of green tea a day, and at least 64 ounces of water a day.
I'm trying to cut dairy out of my diet, but I just LOVE cheese on my subs from Subway... :giggle2:

:thud: That's a lotta stuff to do to TTC... But, if it all brings me the results I want, then it's worth it, right?!?

Ashley, i got the same run around b/c we are "younger". I voiced my concerns to my midwife after we had been ttc for 1 year and she gave me that whole "you have plenty of time", "you are so young", BS...and i was naive enough to believe her. But i am sorry, if you have been actively ttc (not just randomly having sex, but doing all of the crap that we all have been doing to ttc) and it has been even close to 1 year....THERE IS A PROBLEM maybe big, maybe small!!!! I just want to scream at the doctors sometimes!!! When you are young, you are in the most fertile stage of your life and to spend a year+ ttc with no luck is a HUGE red flag in my opinion. If my first stupid MW would have listened to me when i told her there was something wrong then we wouldn't have hit the three years of ttc #1 mark several months ago:banghead: :banghead: Why o why do they think they know our bodies better than we do????:headscratch: Honey I urge you to go to an RE if you have insurance or you can afford to. As i have said several times if there is an issue you are soooo much better of to know what you are up against rather than taking guesses at the problem and trying to address them from that angle. I tried so much natural stuff before we got dh's diagnosis and come to find out several of the natural remedies were prob making things worse. So if you don't think you are ready to treat whatever prob medically then at least once you ahve an idea what the prob is you can go about trying to correct it naturally if that it what you so desire.

:giggle2: Is someone gonna cut me off:roflmbo: :roflmbo: This rant could go on for days:-)

[kristinc]

Ok, i need to calm down some.....lol....so here are some personals:

Nicole- That is awesome that you found a way around the infertility insurance debacle!! Have you donne any recent testing? And i meant to tell you a while ago that i looked the MTHFR stuff up in the beer book adn these is lots of good info about it....i highly highly recommend it as a good read when you have time:-) Did you check to see if your library had it?
And where are you at in your cycle?

Roses- I totally agree with you that the whole 3 losses rule is a load of bull... Typically in women under 40 miscarriages d/t genetic issues are pretty uncommon, but it seems like miscarriage are quite common? So imo it doesn't take a genius to figure out that someone with a loss or 2 or 3 needs to be looked at closer and hopefully sooner rather than later.
And where are you at in your cycle?


Crystal-:wave: I have been around...very grumpy and tired and icky feeling. But we got over the firrt hurtle today by getting decent finding on the ultrasound & b/w within the normal range. So a little load off of my shoulders:-) And i wanted to say that i highly recommend the acupuncture. The guy i use specializes in infertility which is very important, but his patients are alwasys getting pregnant whiledoing the herbs & accup in between cycles. He gets their bodies so blanaced that it seems like most of them get pregnant without needing medical intervention:eek: I wish tht would work for us, but i don't think he can help dh's sterility. While it is a bit pricey, if it prevents you from needing fertility treament then it is soooooo worth it in my book:-)

And Julie :crossfingers: :yay: :pray: I hope this is your month! Us infertility girls need a graduate to boost our spiritis....so are you gonna be the one to graduate for us??:rofl:

[averysmom]

Kristin- I love the soap box smilie. It makes me :giggle2: . You have every right to be on that soap box. I'm so glad things went well for you today. 1 step closer to that bfp. (twins or triplets, I hope).


I ordered my d-pintiol this morning. Man, it wasn't cheap. oh well it won't matter when I see my bfp.

So here's my cocktail.

b-complex (2x a day)
fish oils, burb less of course (2x a day)
red raspberry leaf capsules (1x a day)
vitex, chasteberry (2x a day)
prenatals (1x a day)

My question is when do you start the d-pinitol? Does it matter where you are in your cycle?

Oh yeah I'm also going to start prog. cream from O to AF or BFP. If I get a BFP I will continue the prog till the end of the 1st trimester.

Am I missing anything?

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Kristin- I love the soap box smilie. It makes me :giggle2: . You have every right to be on that soap box. I'm so glad things went well for you today. 1 step closer to that bfp. (twins or triplets, I hope).


I ordered my d-pintiol this morning. Man, it wasn't cheap. oh well it won't matter when I see my bfp.

So here's my cocktail.

b-complex (2x a day)
fish oils, burb less of course (2x a day)
red raspberry leaf capsules (1x a day)
vitex, chasteberry (2x a day)
prenatals (1x a day)

My question is when do you start the d-pinitol? Does it matter where you are in your cycle?

Oh yeah I'm also going to start prog. cream from O to AF or BFP. If I get a BFP I will continue the prog till the end of the 1st trimester.

Am I missing anything?

That sounds great Delana! I would say maybe a baby aspirin once a day. That's supposed to help too, supposedly - we shall see LOL. I can't wait for your BFP! ;) :hugs:

[averysmom]

Robyn- Thanks. I think I will add the BA. You're too sweet!!

[msmamabear]

First off, here is a pic of me and hubby from last summer
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa191/mbsmamabear/IMG_3716.jpg

:hugs: Robyn, insurance sucks big time. :(

My cocktail is pretty mellow and I added most of it yesterday
Origin multi-vitamin for women (target brand vitamins that are getting rave reviews on FF)
Baby asprin
Folic Acid
and I try and take an iron supplement like once a week.

I am horrible at personals but I have been thinking and praying for all of you :goodvibes:

[CalebsMome]

I think everyone's natural supplements are fantastic! We're all on very similar stuff.

I think insurance companies are stupid and shoot themselves in the foot with all their stupid rules about what they will cover and won't cover. I have a fantastic RE that codes everything strange and that's how they get things paid for. I called to ask both Blue Cross Blue Shield and the RE. The nurse said, "well, here's the thing, we don't code it as infertility and they pay for it, we code the same procedure as infertility and they won't. We don't think that's fair or right, so we code things as the underlying issue because it's not right that they won't pay for it." I wanted to hug her for saying that. You know, what if I try to do natural supplements and it causes some kind of wierd reaction that lands me in the hospital. They'll pay for that, at probably in excess of $1,000 and follow ups, etc. Now, for the same price they could have paid for a consultation, bloodwork, HSG, etc. Also, what if someone gets depressed and has to be treated for that. They pay for that, but it would be SO much cheaper and better for their customers to treat the issue and not let it get to having to treat depression. I'm apparently feeding off of Kristin's good meds.

Okay, onto other things though. I was thinking today about how I need to be grateful for things. I started thinking today about this whole TTC completely not working thing. I started thinking about when I so desperately wanted a husband. You see, when I was 15, I made a commitment to God that I'd not date anyone but whom he revealed to me to be my future husband. I had dated a guy for 3 days who ended-up being exactly like my birth father (term used loosely) and I just committed to let God control. Well, 7 years later, not a date, not a look, not a nothing, I was starting to doubt this whole commitment, but I had based my life around the idea that it might never happen. I was prepared to live my life alone. Well, in comes DH, we met on christiancafe.com. Corny though it is, the first time I heard his voice I knew he was the one. That was January 27, June 7 we were engaged, and August 7th we were married. I had always questioned God's timing, but my step father, who gave me away, died September 5th of that year. He was perfectly healthy the day I got married. (He died from angio sarcoma). The timing, it turns out, was perfect. I had just graduated, had a job, and my step dad was well. I graduated in December he died in September, DH and I met, fell instantly in love, and married in that time. DS, I believe was sent by God a year and a half later to heal. I think God knew I couldn't take infertility then. However, I am stronger now. I can handle this one day at a time and I'm learning so many things I never would have learned otherwise. When I finally do hold this next baby in my arms, it will be just like I tell the girls about DH "it was worth the wait I promise." (not that it takes away from DS, but you get the idea). Anyway, I've just been pensive today and I wanted to share.

Oh and, I had EWCM today, gobs. I haven't seen that since the last time I know I ovulated on my own in June of 2006. :lostit:
Oh, and I completed a 45 minute spinning class today. The teacher said "you probably will have to gradually build up from 20 minutes in 5 minute increments." I did not. I was grateful. :-D

[katina128]

Well, my RE wants me to have a pelvic lap now. I just don't know. I really don't want it and don't feel I have any symptoms to warrant it, but I guess I have no choice. Anyone had one? I'm so upset over this. I feel like such a failure right now. I just want to throw in the towel and say forget it.

[averysmom]

Wow, Erin!! Your post made me cry....Your story is such a testomony. Thank you for sharing. Congrats on the EWCM!!!!:lostit:

[msmamabear]

Erin, thanks for sharing that. I too had a very similar experience getting my sweet husband. I told God I didn't want drama and I didn't want to date. I just wanted Him to pick the one for me and I could be done with it. My hubby came into my life shortly after and we just knew. 8 years later here we are.

I forget sometimes how blessed we truly are. :blush: :touched:

[crystalannski]

Kristin: How much does the acupuncture run? I did a little searching online today (like very little, the babies wouldn't nap so I only had like 10 minutes) but didn't find much info. I really only read about using it for infertility if there is an underlying issue that is known or in preparation for a procedure but in the book I thought she talked about it being helpful for just general fertility :headscratch: I'm emberassed to admit that book kind of confuses me :blush: I have like 3 of the 'patterns' and I cant figure out what herbs I'm supposed to take, she mentions so many. I'm making DH read through some of it just so I have someone else double checking everything I decide to take, I don't want to screw this up.

Erin: :goodvibes: I love your stories! I think you should tell one every day :mrgreen: they take my mind off of the stress of ttc and always leave me feeling warm and fuzzy!

[averysmom]

Well, my RE wants me to have a pelvic lap now. I just don't know. I really don't want it and don't feel I have any symptoms to warrant it, but I guess I have no choice. Anyone had one? I'm so upset over this. I feel like such a failure right now. I just want to throw in the towel and say forget it.

:hugs: Hang in there!!!

[katina128]

Thanks. Sorry to be so selfish right now.

[CalebsMome]

Katina: Hang in there. You aren't a failure, it's just a bump in the road. :hugs:
And you are NOT being selfish right now. It's all part of working though it. One day at a time. Some days we're fine, some days we need to self loathe.

Crystal: I'm so glad you like my stories. :mrgreen: They just come to me and I have to share or I'll explode. Me thinks I was a camp counselor for too long.

Delana: From what I've read, I think the baby asprin can't hurt. I've read lots of things that say "it can't hurt might help," such as progesterone cream after ovulation, baby asprin, etc.

Kristin: :lostit: :grphug: :yay: for a good ultrasound result! I can't wait for your bfp! When do you travel or have you already traveled?

Melissa: Isn't it amazing how things work out? I would never in my wildest dreams have imagined that I would meet and marry my DH in the way I did.

[PeanutButter'sMommy]

Kristin - yay! So happy your u/s went well!

Erin - amazing story. Thank you so much for putting things into perspective, I need that every once in a while! I try to look at my son every day and be SOOOOO thankful that I was able to have even him, I am already so lucky in so many ways.

Katina, I'm sorry! Don't feel like a failure. I don't know what a pelvic lap is so I'm going to go look it up. But hang in there :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

I forget who asked about acupuncture :blush: but I can tell you when I used to go, which was a good 3 years ago, it was about $60 per session. My treatment started at 1x a week for about 4 weeks and then down to every two weeks, etc. etc. Insurance didn't cover any of that for me (and probably still wouldn't). I don't know if the prices have gone up in general since then, but I hope that helps a little :goodvibes: ......

[kristinc]

insomnia insomnia o o insomnia......*hummed to the tune of lollipop* :rofl:

ok so the dex is keeping me up....no sleeping here last night:eek: anyone out there in internet infertility land *u like my overly dry sense of humor at this hour??*

[CalebsMome]

Lol...good morning Kristin! I think I'm a little over 3 hours late, but oh well. Since we've all been sharing what we're taking, what all meds are you taking? Please share. I have a curious mind.

[averysmom]

Lol...good morning Kristin! I think I'm a little over 3 hours late, but oh well. Since we've all been sharing what we're taking, what all meds are you taking? Please share. I have a curious mind.

Me too!!! Good Morning kristin, erin, and everyone else!!!!

[JaylasMommy]

First off... :hugs: to everyone today.

Kristin - :happycry: Your post made made me tear up. It's nice to get advice and kind words from people who REALLY understand. Rather than hearing the same stuff over and over.
:yack: "When it's the right time, it will happen" or "TTC is mind over matter"... :yack: Yea, sure. If you can magically make my ovaries ovulate, then I will start listening to you. :yuck:
Anyway, I can't wait to see your BFP!

Erin - That is such a great story. :goodvibes:

[crystalannski]

Good morning everyone! I hope you're all doing well today :goodvibes: I feel like crap, I have a cold and my whole body is aching like I got ran over by a train.

I have a question for all of you that will answer, I already posted it in off topic last week but I didn't get much help, I hope you don't mind me posting it here. So as you all know by now Eliana's adoption will be finalized on the 25th and we all need to dress nice that day for court. I bought this cute little knit dress for her and now I'm kicking myself because I cant find any shoes that I think match. Someone told me just to find some mary janes but the only ones I could find were dark brown and looked terrible. I am about the least fashionable person around and I need your help here. I don't know where to go anymore and I'm freaking out because I'm running out of time :blush: Any ideas???
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll253/crystalannski/DSCN1086.jpghttp://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll253/crystalannski/DSCN1089.jpg
Oh, don't mind my jammies :blush:

[JaylasMommy]

:giggle2: That is a cute dress!! I think, that a light tan shoe or boot would look cute with that! :giggle2: I LOVE sweater dresses on toddlers. :giggle2:

ETA: I just looked again, and I think a pair of cute Ugg-like boots, in a light tan would look super cute, and more festive for the season it is. :giggle2: I am dying to get dd a pair of Ugg-like boots... Not the real ones. I wouldn't put those expensive boots on my toddler. :roflmbo: Puddles, and mud are her best friend...

[JulieBeth]

:giggle2: That is a cute dress!! I think, that a light tan shoe or boot would look cute with that! :giggle2: I LOVE sweater dresses on toddlers. :giggle2:

ETA: I just looked again, and I think a pair of cute Ugg-like boots, in a light tan would look super cute, and more festive for the season it is. :giggle2: I am dying to get dd a pair of Ugg-like boots... Not the real ones. I wouldn't put those expensive boots on my toddler. :roflmbo: Puddles, and mud are her best friend...


Oh I agree! Little Ugg like boots would be sooo cute!

[mamaratliff]

Crystal: how bout some little white moc's? I got some super cute ones from target a couple weeks ago, maybe they still have em?

Erin: That story was amazing! Made me tear up a little, and remember how much I really am blessed.

Kristin: Thanks for thinking of me :bighug: And I'm so sorry that you're not sleeping well. That really sucks. How much longer on this particular med?

Melissa: I hope you're feeling better this morning :kisses:

AFM: I am officially 6 dpo now. I'm excited for AF to get here :giggle2: probably the only time in my life, I'm hoping she shows right on time. Unfortunately that would be either Thanksgiving day or Black Friday... either way an inconvience. But I'll happily deal with it :D I am finally going for my blood work on Monday! WoooHooooo, the waiting for everything sucks. But it's almost over. Well the wait for the tests, then it's the wait for the results... then the wait to O.... then the wait to test.... but you get the idea :giggle2: I am a very impatient person, have you figured that out yet?

[crystalannski]

Thanks for helping me out guys, I was feeling kind of bad for asking here :blush: but I didn't know what else to do and I know how great you all are :goodvibes:

So I looked up the Ugg boots since I had no idea what you both were talking about :blush: they are super cute! Only problem I need something by Tuesday, I wish I would have asked sooner but I didn't think I'd have such a problem finding something. Any ideas where I could get something like that local? I'm no target.com right now looking at what they have in her size. I guess that's probably my best bet, to check everyone out online instead of driving around in the snow all day looking for baby shoes :lostit:

Nicole: I know what you mean about the waiting, I think it may be the hardest thing for me about ttc. This cycle seems the worst too, time is just moving so slow for me right now.

[JulieBeth]

[QUOTE=crystalannski;5529201]Thanks for helping me out guys, I was feeling kind of bad for asking here :blush: but I didn't know what else to do and I know how great you all are :goodvibes:

So I looked up the Ugg boots since I had no idea what you both were talking about :blush: they are super cute! Only problem I need something by Tuesday, I wish I would have asked sooner but I didn't think I'd have such a problem finding something. Any ideas where I could get something like that local? I'm no target.com right now looking at what they have in her size. I guess that's probably my best bet, to check everyone out online instead of driving around in the snow all day looking for baby shoes :lostit:

\QUOTE]

Do you have a Children's Place close to you?
http://www.childrensplace.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=504775&styleId=73222&categoryIdsTree=25851%7C61673&categoryNameTree=baby+girl%7Cbaby+girl+shoes&categoryName=babygirls

These are really cute too!
http://www.childrensplace.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=509414&styleId=74083&categoryIdsTree=25851%7C61673&categoryNameTree=baby+girl%7Cbaby+girl+shoes&categoryName=babygirls

Or Baby Gap might have these in stock!
http://www.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=6469&pid=603975

[crystalannski]

Oh Julie those Children's Place ones are really cute, THANK YOU! I went there and looked already but I was kind of overwhelmed because I was looking for stockings and shoes for 2 different dresses (this one and the one for her baby dedication at church) and this fashion stuff is just not my thing. I think I'll stop back up there tonight and see if they have either of those in her size. I'm gunna look really good this time and go everywhere until I find something! Thanks for giving me some ideas here guys, I was was completely confused...

[msmamabear]

Thanks for helping me out guys, I was feeling kind of bad for asking here :blush: but I didn't know what else to do and I know how great you all are :goodvibes:

So I looked up the Ugg boots since I had no idea what you both were talking about :blush: they are super cute! Only problem I need something by Tuesday, I wish I would have asked sooner but I didn't think I'd have such a problem finding something. Any ideas where I could get something like that local? I'm no target.com right now looking at what they have in her size. I guess that's probably my best bet, to check everyone out online instead of driving around in the snow all day looking for baby shoes :lostit:

Nicole: I know what you mean about the waiting, I think it may be the hardest thing for me about ttc. This cycle seems the worst too, time is just moving so slow for me right now.

If you have a stride rite near by I would go there. We got some super cute shiny black mary janes for my daughter and they seriously go with everything. :D My daughter is just like me, we love shoes :laugh:

[averysmom]

Crystal- Your dd is sooo cute!! Congrats on the adoption!!!!

[kristinc]

Lol...good morning Kristin! I think I'm a little over 3 hours late, but oh well. Since we've all been sharing what we're taking, what all meds are you taking? Please share. I have a curious mind.

I am taking dexamethazone, ganirelix, follistim & luveris....and then when the time comes HCG for trigger shot & a z-pack:-) and yeah and prenatals...can't forget those babies:goodvibes:

[McMamma38]

Good evening ladies~I'm too tired to do personals now but wanted to catch up on everyone and post an update on me.

My Ob requested I do a hpt 1 week post m/c,wich I did on Thursday.It was a cruel shock to still see a BFP.I called the office and left my message about it being BFP.So the Ob's nurse calls back and told me--he wanted me to come in this am for another quantative HCG draw,it sucks.
My body is still sensitive to the leftover hormones because I'm still ubber tired and my breasts still hurt.My m/c bleeding started peetering out on day 5 post m/c and gone for good early in the am on day 6.(wich was Wenesday)
It sucks--I wont hear back until Monday--I just want it to be a low 0-5 HCG so I can o and we can ttc again.
Supposedly my last HCG were a sad 42 on Monday and a horridly awful 20 Wenesday(the day before I m/ced)--that was a week ago,then I tested at home and still a bfp.:banghead:
I just want to be back to normal.
My face is breaking out and I keep peeing.Uuugh.

Katina~~:bighug: :bighug:
Delana~You can start the d-Pinitol now.I would not start it if you are oing now--as you wouldn't need it,since you were oing on your own,but otherwise start it.Goodluck!

[crystalannski]

Oh Charlotte :hugs: how frustrating for you. I'm so sorry, I hope this is all over soon so you can get back to normal and start ttc again :hugs:

[McMamma38]

Thanks Ctystal.
I enjoyed the pics of your new baby girl~she's beautiful! Girls are soo much fun to dress.:goodvibes:
How are you feeling? Have you tested yet? I'm wishing you lots of luck!!Come on bfp!:thumbsup:

[averysmom]

Thanks Charlotte!!! Those numbers are so frustrating. :hugs: You're still in my prayers.

[CalebsMome]

Hi all! Sorry I was MIA. I've been painting our guest bedroom this very offensive green that DH apparently LOVES. :yuck: Oh well, I never even go in that room, and I'm almost done now. Today's agenda is to do the backsplash. Fix some tiles on the floor that are warped because they are the 18 inch tiles. Had we known that 18 inch tiles were prone to warping and that we would have to dig up the grout and inject mortar under them to fix it, we would not have paid $6 a tile for the bigger tiles and paid a lot less for smaller tiles that wouldn't have warped. Oh well, it looks SOOOOOO good. Anyway, DH's parents and his grandmother are coming down for turkey day. His grandmother is coming and she's never seen our new house (well new as of 2 years ago in January), hence all the improvement things. Hopefully I'll be able to post pics of the kitchen/ dining room Monday or so when we get the floor tiles fixed and the myriad of junk that was taken out of the kitchen and thrown in the dining room put back where it goes. I'll post pics of the ugly green room later today. :mrgreen:

On another note, on Tuesday we're going to pick up the fullsize bed rails that we ordered a year ago to convert DS's crib into a full size bed. This just makes me sad. I had really hoped it would be a crib again by now. I guess that's why I've waited so long to go pick them up. I wanted to not have to use them. Oh well, that was why we bought the bed to start with was so that it could become something more useful than just a crib or toddler bed.

On the ttc front, nothing much going on. The ladies have been sore for some reason off and on, a little more EWCM. Today is day 12. If the EWCM meant I ovulated that would give me a 26 or so day cycle. :headscratch: Very odd, oh well. We'll see what happens. I figure there's more EWCM to come later sometime, but I could be wrong. Actually, with this TTC thing I'm wrong more than I'm right :roflmbo:

I'll be back later for personals!

[averysmom]

Good Morning Ladies!!!!

Erin- Can't wait to see pics of the green room and your kitchen.

[kristinc]

morning ladies:-)

[kristinc]

i thought you guys might get a kick out of this pic:

these are my meds & supplies for the next 2 weeks, with 2 days used:eek:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/kdw112980/US%20pics/ivfmeds001-1.jpg

it is kind of overwhelming looking at it all laid out that way:eek:

[mamaratliff]

Oh wow Kristin! That is overwhelming! So how many of the meds are injectable, and how many are oral? You should save that picture forever, and someday when your teenager is giving you a hard time you should show them that :giggle: Maybe that will help them appreciate the hard work you went through to get them here.

[kristinc]

They are all injectible except the big white container of prenatal vits, the little brown bottle of the dexamethasone and the z-pack.....and then the lovely white boxes are vag suppositories:yuck:

[crystalannski]

Crystal- Your dd is sooo cute!! Congrats on the adoption!!!!
Aww thanks Delana :mrgreen:

Thanks Ctystal.
I enjoyed the pics of your new baby girl~she's beautiful! Girls are soo much fun to dress.:goodvibes:
How are you feeling? Have you tested yet? I'm wishing you lots of luck!!Come on bfp!:thumbsup:
I'm feeling like crap today, thanks for asking! Dh and Addison have been taking care of the babies for me all day today.
I don't plan on testing until Tuesday but I am 99% sure I'm going to start my period tomorrow... I can just tell :( I'm so sick of this, I just don't know why this isn't working :banghead:

Oh wow Kristin! That is overwhelming! So how many of the meds are injectable, and how many are oral? You should save that picture forever, and someday when your teenager is giving you a hard time you should show them that :giggle: Maybe that will help them appreciate the hard work you went through to get them here.
:roflmbo: I agree!

WOW, that's a lot of meds Kristin! Is it all the same stuff as last time?

:hugs: I hope everyone else is having a great weekend! :goodvibes:

[averysmom]

So kirstin, how many shots a day are you getting? Is your DH giving them to you or are you doing it yourself?