I was leaving my neighborhood late this afternoon, and in order to do so I had to pass the pool. This family comes strolling out with I would say about 1 year old twin girls. The poor little girls were both RED. I was in pain just seeing them. If you are going to spend time outside with your babies is it so danggum hard to put sunscreen on them? They can't do it themselves!
Tiffer23
06-14-2009, 10:49 PM
I agree. I think it's pretty cruel to let a baby burn. :(
raelynn
06-14-2009, 10:54 PM
Poor babies :(
cereal527
06-14-2009, 11:03 PM
That's sad, but my kids burn even when using 60+ spf on them and reapplying several times a day while we're out. Sure they aren't lobster red or horribly burnt, but they always burn. So does my dh though, so it's not very surprising.
JollyHolly
06-15-2009, 12:11 AM
Maybe they put it on and it washed off in the pool? It's kind of hard to tell when to reapply if kids are busy splashing and dont look burned.
I'm bad about this. Seems like some days we will be outside for 30 min and everyone ends up w/ a sunburn. Other days we'll be out the whole day and only get pink noses. I wouldnt be so quick to judge others. :2cents:
Samandy
06-15-2009, 01:06 AM
That's sad.
My kids almost look sunburned after being outside for less than 20 minutes.
I use lots of sunscreen but, they both get bright red from the heat; even in the shade (and they both get mad when I tell them to come inside.)
CrazedChris
06-15-2009, 06:08 AM
I just got on to my mom about this yesterday. I ran an errand while she was over, and I come home to find her and my 2 youngest ones in the pool, with no sunscreen. I was a bit irritated for sure.
Mom2BabiesA&I
06-15-2009, 06:20 AM
Its no good but I can also tell you as the mom of my VERY Scottish skinned daughter that no matter how much sunscreen I apply, how high the SPF or how often I put it on her she still burns. It hasn't gotten bad yet but I can easily see how it would if I don't keep her out of the sun as much as possible.
She is also one that burns just from the UV reflection of sand....she has DHs skin...the man burns (easily) through the rolled up car window.
Very odd for me to deal with cause I never burn....
my2sweets
06-15-2009, 07:17 AM
Everytime dd1 plays outside for any extended period of time(30+min) she turns red. It's not from a sunburn, she's just really white and turns bright red when hot. I'm sure ppl think I'm a horrible mom who lets her kiddo burn :(
Rhianna'sMommy
06-15-2009, 07:17 AM
Poor babies but don't be so quick to assume bad sunburn. DD#1 is very fair skinned (thanks to me) and gets flushed very easily in the sun. So even though she has sunblock on she often looks burned. Once you get her inside and she cools down she loses the red flush.
Equivocal
06-15-2009, 07:20 AM
I wouldn't assume that they're burned.
My DD is fair skinned (like me) and I apply sunscreen all the time (and her daycare teachers apply it whenever they go outside) and she looks red/flushed after being outside for a small amount of time. Once we go indoors or beneath some shade to cool off some, she goes right back to her normal color.
JamieJLD
06-15-2009, 08:47 AM
I think it's terrible when people don't put sunscreen on their kids or don't reapply regularly (of course everyone slips up sometimes, but going to the pool shouldn't be a time when you forget sunscreen).
That said, I'm another super fair mama with a super fair LO who turns BRIGHT RED from the heat and excitement of being outside regardless of how much sunscreen she has on. I get dirty looks all the time for my red little girl, but after 10 minutes inside she is back to normal coloring. Hopefully that's what you saw at the pool.
chapmanrl6
06-15-2009, 08:50 AM
No excuse for that!
3lilbubs
06-15-2009, 10:51 AM
That's sad.
My kids almost look sunburned after being outside for less than 20 minutes.
I use lots of sunscreen but, they both get bright red from the heat; even in the shade (and they both get mad when I tell them to come inside.)
Mine too. A lot of people get alarmed by this but I swear my kids aren't burned, it's just how they respond to heat. They don't sweat enough I guess.
Husky359
06-15-2009, 11:08 AM
Ladies, I am that mean old mommy you speak of. :-( Yesterday we went to an 1800s recreation and we forgot to bring the sunscreen! I felt like mean old mommy of the year and felt guilty the whole time. We took turns trying to shade ds w/ dh's big ol' cowboy hat (I DID remember my son's water/sun hat that shades his ears and neck, but he refuses to wear it). It kept his face from burning but his poor little arms are bright red.
betty_joanne
06-15-2009, 12:15 PM
Dh complains that i put too much sunscreen on dd. She ends up with a white face, white ears,white legs and arms and sunscreen in her hair. Oh well, even with all that she still complained two days later that her ears hurt(slightly burned tops of the ears).
lotsuvlittles
06-15-2009, 01:17 PM
Sunscreen is a bunch of nasty chemicals. :yuck:
When we lived in the city and my kids only played outside for a couple hours a day I would have to smear sunscreen on them every time we left the house just to keep them from getting too red. When we moved to our 3 acres in the country we started eating healthier and taking cod liver oil daily and I haven't put sunscreen on my kids in the last 4yrs. My kids are outside more than they are inside and none of them have had a sunburn!
Hopefully those little ones don't have to suffer a sunburn because they can be very painful. As PPs mentioned I hope they were just hot and needed to cool down.
Husky359
06-15-2009, 01:21 PM
We use California baby or whatever it's called w/o a lot of nasty chemicals. I take cod liver oil every day, and usually I am not one who burns, but yesterday I got a burn as well.
Masonsmommy06
06-15-2009, 02:29 PM
My DS is allergic to sunscreen so I have no other option but to limit his outdoors time
Us4&AngelCorey
06-15-2009, 02:30 PM
Maybe they put it on and it washed off in the pool? It's kind of hard to tell when to reapply if kids are busy splashing and dont look burned.
I'm bad about this. Seems like some days we will be outside for 30 min and everyone ends up w/ a sunburn. Other days we'll be out the whole day and only get pink noses. I wouldnt be so quick to judge others. :2cents:
I agree
pumkinsmommy
06-15-2009, 02:50 PM
This bothers me also. When I was a child(until about age 17) I had at LEAST 10 blistering sunburns. I don't know if sunscreen existed then but we never had it. I also turn red as a beet from heat.:banghead:
mOmof3
06-15-2009, 05:08 PM
That's sad, but my kids burn even when using 60+ spf on them and reapplying several times a day while we're out. Sure they aren't lobster red or horribly burnt, but they always burn. So does my dh though, so it's not very surprising.
my kids too..i lotioned them up and two hours later they were really burnt. it was an organic sunscreen. i threw it out and bout the higher ones from wal mart.
shanree
06-15-2009, 06:20 PM
Sunscreen is a bunch of nasty chemicals. :yuck:
When we lived in the city and my kids only played outside for a couple hours a day I would have to smear sunscreen on them every time we left the house just to keep them from getting too red. When we moved to our 3 acres in the country we started eating healthier and taking cod liver oil daily and I haven't put sunscreen on my kids in the last 4yrs. My kids are outside more than they are inside and none of them have had a sunburn!
Hopefully those little ones don't have to suffer a sunburn because they can be very painful. As PPs mentioned I hope they were just hot and needed to cool down.
ditto mama! We don't use sunscreen either... we don't use ANY lotions/chemicals on the skin only natural oils... I am far more afraid of those horrible chemicals in sunscreen than the possibility of a little burn
We have been to the beach twice already this year and my kids play outside everyday plus have been to the pool many times and have not burned at all... they just have a pretty brown color to them... and 2 of my kids are blonde/blue!
dublinmom
06-15-2009, 07:25 PM
That's sad.
My kids almost look sunburned after being outside for less than 20 minutes.
I use lots of sunscreen but, they both get bright red from the heat; even in the shade (and they both get mad when I tell them to come inside.)
My kids get bright red from the heat too then after about 20 minutes back inside cooling off they go back to their normal color. I hope thar's the case for those LOs too
MichelleMommyTo4
06-15-2009, 08:53 PM
Poor babies, but I'm with some of the other PPs. I burn horribly, I swear I can THINK about the sun and get burnt. My girls aren't like that, they're more like DH, but my oldest DD gets bright red in the heat. Once she cools off, she goes back to normal, but LOOKS burnt before she cools off. DS is the same way, but he does burn. I'm religious with sunblock because my mom was not. She knew I'd burn easily and never cared. Lemme tell ya, 2nd and 3rd degree burns HURT :(
But just cause they were red doesn't always mean they were burnt. Hopefully they weren't!
jewelzbird
06-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Yikes!! last summer I has a little boy come ask me to put sunscreen on him because he saw me with some. he was already burned and so were his 2 siblings! His mom was sitting in the shade watching them all play in the sun!! He told me he had been to the beach all day the day before and that was why he was burned! I wanted to cry! I lathered all 3 kids up myself. I wanted to go slap that woman in the face!
Samandy
06-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Ladies, I am that mean old mommy you speak of. :-( Yesterday we went to an 1800s recreation and we forgot to bring the sunscreen! I felt like mean old mommy of the year and felt guilty the whole time. We took turns trying to shade ds w/ dh's big ol' cowboy hat (I DID remember my son's water/sun hat that shades his ears and neck, but he refuses to wear it). It kept his face from burning but his poor little arms are bright red.
:hugs:
cereal527
06-15-2009, 11:01 PM
ditto mama! We don't use sunscreen either... we don't use ANY lotions/chemicals on the skin only natural oils... I am far more afraid of those horrible chemicals in sunscreen than the possibility of a little burn
We have been to the beach twice already this year and my kids play outside everyday plus have been to the pool many times and have not burned at all... they just have a pretty brown color to them... and 2 of my kids are blonde/blue!
If we didn't use sunscreen my kids would seriously end up in the hospital because they would be so badly burned. I think puting the chemicals on their skin for a day at a theme park or the beach is worth the risk so we don't end up with horrible blistery burns on everyone's skin.
blackberry75
06-15-2009, 11:24 PM
It's awful that they got burned, but then I think of my poor parents situation with me. They could put sunblock on my every second and I would blister in
10mins of being in the sun. To this day I burn with 10mins of exposure with sunblock on. When I'm overheated, I turn beet red too. The fun of red hair I guess.
Kestlyn
06-15-2009, 11:54 PM
I understand your desire to protect children :goodvibes:
That said...as a baby I burned from the reflection of the sun off of sand, while under an umbrella and slathered with sunscreen :giggle: And I was totally one of those kids that turned bright red when hot (so is my DD).
I've needed to wear 50+ sunscreen and as much covering as possible since. Still I got some precancerous spots and learned that the sun is no laughing matter. There are plenty of safe sunblocks/sunscatterers (minerals help to deflect the sun) for kids today and I hope that some of the natural moms will consider those, as damage happens even to kids who just look tanned. My kids play outside all the time and do build up tans, but I will never leave them in the sun without protection. Skin cancer is no laughing matter and can spread quickly to various organs of the body when you least expect it.
The EWG does a great write up on all your favorite brands if you'd like to check their toxicity: http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/special/sunscreens2008/index.php?nothanks=1 Anything 0-2 is low or no danger
The top danger level 0 are:
Soleo Organic Chemical Free Sunscreen, California Baby stick, and Badger all SPF30
Like a pp said, California Baby is available in lots of grocery stores now (SPF18 and 30.
Badger SPF30 at Whole Foods and other natural stores
Soleo, Blue Lizard and Trukid seem to be order online only? SPF30
Natural Madison (http://hyenacart.com/prod_details.php?id=62957&vid=2824)(WAHM) carries an SPF30 that is paraben free and contains many oils and minerals
mrsrlgs12
06-16-2009, 03:05 AM
What does Cod Liver Oil do? I have some but have not given any to dd yet.
The little girls were lobster red from the tops of their bald little heads to the tops of their little legs sitting in their stroller.
Chey
06-16-2009, 12:58 PM
If the kids were completely red I would be more inclined to think it was flushed from the heat rather than a burn. Burns don't tend to be evenly distributed.
I am a light olive complexion and don't burn easily but I do go flaming red in the sun, nice and even and people often mistake it for a sunburn when it isn't.
My daughter doesn't burn but my son is fair skinned but has my trait of turning flaming red in the sun even though it isn't burned. Again, people often think he's getting a nasty burn when he is not.
syfitz
06-16-2009, 01:22 PM
I burn after a few minutes, sunscreen or not. My kids have had a few burns over the years despite my efforts to keep them slathered up. Sometimes you just can't tell til it's too late. :(
My youngest dd once got a burn on her face with blisters :cry: . We were at the state fair in OCT. and it was cold, but sunny. I just didn't even think about sunscreen. I felt so awful and sick about it......
mom2littleman
06-16-2009, 02:13 PM
I slather my child with sunscreen, chemicals or not. I'm not just protecting my child from a sun burn, but also from skin cancer later in life.
haydn'smommy
06-16-2009, 02:22 PM
I apply sunscreen to myself and Haydn anytime we are out in the sun for extended periods. I had skin cancer at age 17. How embarrassing for me to go to prom with my big lesion on my chest from having it removed. My grandfather had skin cancer that resulted in the removal of much of his upper lip and part of his nose. I would never forgive myself if my negligence caused my child to get cancer, so I pick the safest thing possible with the least chemicals and hose us both down in it.
KaylaJayne
06-16-2009, 03:28 PM
Yup I ALWAYS put sunscreen on Nolan - I have some "suspicious" moles that I need to get removed (reminder to self - make that appointment) and I don't want him to have that worry
On top of that, sunburn is PAINFUL!
lotsuvlittles
06-16-2009, 04:05 PM
What does Cod Liver Oil do? I have some but have not given any to dd yet.
The little girls were lobster red from the tops of their bald little heads to the tops of their little legs sitting in their stroller.
You can google about omega fatty acids preventing sunburns and come up with quite a few articles. Sunburns are an inflammation and irritation of the skin and keeping your Omega 3 and Omega 6 at a good ratio will help fight off the UV rays that irritate your skin and cause sunburn. (I think that's it in a nutshell.)
Here's one part of an article from The World's Healthiest Foods (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=133)
"Protection against Sunburn
Another benefit of omega-3s anti-inflammatory effects may be their ability to protect our skin against sunburn, and possibly, skin cancer.
Although our increased susceptibility to skin cancer is usually blamed on damage to the ozone layer, dietary changes over the last 75 years, which have resulted in excessive consumption of omega-6 fatty acids and insufficient consumption of omega-3 fats, may also be causing human skin to be more vulnerable to damage from sunlight.
Research by Dr Lesley Rhodes, Director of the Photobiology Unit at the University of Manchester, UK, suggests that eating more omega-3-rich fish, such as cod, could lessen the inflammation induced by UV-B radiation and help prevent not only the damaging effects of sunburn, but possibly skin cancer as well.
In a paper published in January 2005 in the Journal of Investigative Dermatology, Rhodes explored the ability of omega-3s to protect epidermal and dermal skin cells against UV-B-induced triggering of tumor necrosis factor-alpha, a molecule that induces the production of the pro-inflammatory cytokine, IL-8. Both EPA and DHA significantly suppressed TNF-alpha-induced IL-8 secretion-by 54% in the case of EPA and 42% by DHA. In an earlier one of Dr Rhodes studies, published in the May 2003 issue of Carcinogenesis, 42 healthy volunteers were given a measured dose of ultraviolet light, then divided into two groups. One group was given a daily 4 gram omega-3 fish oil supplement, while the other group received olive oil. After three months, when their responses to ultraviolet light were again measured, the skin cells of volunteers receiving fish oil experienced significantly less DNA damage, leading Rhodes to suggest that increasing consumption of omega-3-rich fish might reduce skin cancer in humans."
