My 15 month old had an IPV shot today (polio). Specifically told me that it is not a live vaccine and to not expect a fever. He felt warm before bed, so we gave him some motrin (he is also teething horribly and was chewing his fingers, so thought it would help two fold).
Woke up fussy and acting a little off. Very hot - temp 102.8 rectally. Wont take any tylenol for me - and then just spewed the most insane amount of vomit all over me. I have never seen him throw up before. NOw he is acting mostly normal.
Do I take him to the ER? Ride it out tonight at home and call doc in am? Freaking out!
escapethevillage
08-24-2009, 11:35 PM
I have no idea! I'd call the on call doctor though. They should at least be aware of it.
My daughter had a reaction to the MMR. She was SOOOO sick, and looked like someone beat her with a big spoon. They weren't hives. They were big giant bruises all over. She stayed sick for several days, but the doctors weren't too concerned.
I'd still call anyway. It's always best to make sure they know about this. They might even be able to explain it to you.
heidi320
08-24-2009, 11:39 PM
:banghead: we dont even have a doctor on call! Sometimes I hate the military thing - we only have the option of going to the ER. When I call them, they only tell me that if I feel its serious to come in. No medical advice over the phone.
What constitutes a "high" fever?
~happy2Bamommy~
08-24-2009, 11:47 PM
What you described happened to my neighbors son. I don't want to scare you but I think you should take him on in.
My neighbors little boy threw up and stopped being so fussy, then started seizing the next day.
It may not be a reaction to the actual polio but could be a reaction to something else in the vaccine?
~happy2Bamommy~
08-24-2009, 11:50 PM
on second thought.. Has he been around anyone that has been sick with a tummy bug? It may just be that?? I don;t want to overly worry you :hugs: What time is it there? Here the docs open in just a few hours. Our ER is sooooo slow that by the time they saw my child I could have just let them sleep and shown up at the doctors office right as they opened.
bean3
08-24-2009, 11:52 PM
I'd be heading to the ER if it were me.
adriannemae
08-24-2009, 11:53 PM
Warning..*bearer of bad news*
I have found very few dr.s to be concerned with a child who seems ill after a shot :( This happened to my 1ds and the dr actually seemed irritated i came in. My BIL and cousin also had similar experiences with drs giving us the Meh it'll be fine treatment. After watch ds1 painfully ill for over a week i stopped vaxing (not that i'm saying u should)
ProudMomma
08-24-2009, 11:53 PM
Do you have Tylenol suppositories? I'm sorry the military people aren't helping. It's frustrating.. I know that when I was in a mil hospital, we did have people on call, but unfortunately, not for the parents. If you could, I would call and ask to speak to the MD or RN on and explain that you understand why your child likely has a fever, but you would like if they could help you contact the peds if the ER MD isn't comfortable giving you advice. I remember that when we weren't too busy, one of us would sit down and do this. Depending on the staff, some are very comfortable giving advice over the phone.
heidi320
08-24-2009, 11:58 PM
Its 2am here.
I dont have any suppositories. He's very restless, which I can attribute to the fact that he is having major gas issues tonight, and he is teething. I cant tell whats related to what or if it is coincidental that its happening after the shot this afternoon.
I am already wary of vaccines in general, and these doctors here attitudes about reactions to them. After he received the Hib vax at three months old, he got a fever of 102 and when I called the nurse actually told me that obviously something else was wrong with my baby (with a tone that said I did something to cause it) because there is NO REASON for him to have that high of a fever - never mind that the vaccines were less than 24 hours before.
heidi320
08-25-2009, 12:00 AM
Fever recheck shows it down to 102.5 ...He is trying to relax with his daddy. Telling us he is hot. Poor baby. :cry:
edit: DH was able to get tylenol in him. Going to watch him for tonight unless something gets worse.
MamaNotes
08-25-2009, 12:15 AM
:hugs: :hugs: Hope everything is okay and you get some sleep!
lydiamom
08-25-2009, 07:25 AM
Update? How's your baby doing? Are you taking him in today?
fuzzysunshine
08-25-2009, 07:31 AM
I hope everything is ok!
funda62
08-25-2009, 08:02 AM
It is far more likely he caught a cold at the doctor's office than had a reaction to the shot. :hugs:
Amaggiepie
08-25-2009, 08:08 AM
It is far more likely he caught a cold at the doctor's office than had a reaction to the shot. :hugs:
??????
Sure.
kimmiepie
08-25-2009, 08:25 AM
It is far more likely he caught a cold at the doctor's office than had a reaction to the shot. :hugs:
Sadly, I don't think that is it. A cold generally doesn't happen hours after exposure. Also, vomiting and high fever are not characteristic of a cold either.
I would take him in to be sure. Document it and send the reaction to VAERS just in case.
I hope he feels better soon. :hugs:
Fusion
08-25-2009, 08:39 AM
rotavirus and norovirus could both affect a baby in that amount of time, both are extremely contagious, and the symptoms are throwing up and fever. If you were at a doctor's office there is definitely a good chance that could be it. If he was having an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine, then the symptoms would be different.
amrijane128
08-25-2009, 08:43 AM
Ugh, there are so many possibilities, that's the hardest part of parenting in general. The fact that he's had a fever before leads me to believe it is a reaction, if the fever keeps up this morning I'd take him in. Lukewarm baths followed by light cotton clothes always helped my dd get comfortable with a fever. I hope he's feeling better!
Colleeny
08-25-2009, 09:00 AM
Document it and send the reaction to VAERS just in case.
No doctor is NOT going to admit (99% docs anyway) if your son had a reaction. They will blame it on everything else in the world. Vax fevers are a direct reaction to injecting aluminum into the body and toxins (found in virtually all vaxs) ...which leads to alheimers, etc. and all those "aging diseases" that are not normal (that we accept as normal now).
Research has shown that children have "mini-strokes" after receiving ANY vaccines. The vax increases the white blood cells in the body, but the body does not know where to fix the problem or where to send those white blood cells. So, the white blood cells search everywhere, until they go to the brain, and land in the smallest ends of the brain capilaries, clogging them of oxygen. This causes ministrokes, that we can not see, and ultimately disorders of the brain that we now see so much of in children these days.
My 4 yr. old had a major reaction after getting his MMR and flu vax, and he ended up in the ER for hours and hours. They ran tests, etc. and wanted to blame his reaction on some rare disease that has do with his white blood cells. DUH!!! That was the turning point for me.
3Xblessed
08-25-2009, 09:10 AM
A fever is a normal reaction to any vaccination. A fever is the first non-specific immune reaction. The body is reacting to something foreign in the body. Once the non-specific reactions are done with than the body begins making antibodies. Not every child gets a fever, and not all kids get fevers to the same shots.
I would watch him for today and if it doesn't resolve then take him in.
Fusion
08-25-2009, 09:16 AM
No doctor is NOT going to admit (99% docs anyway) if your son had a reaction. They will blame it on everything else in the world. Vax fevers are a direct reaction to injecting aluminum into the body and toxins (found in virtually all vaxs) ...which leads to alheimers, etc. and all those "aging diseases" that are not normal (that we accept as normal now).
Research has shown that children have "mini-strokes" after receiving ANY vaccines. The vax increases the white blood cells in the body, but the body does not know where to fix the problem or where to send those white blood cells. So, the white blood cells search everywhere, until they go to the brain, and land in the smallest ends of the brain capilaries, clogging them of oxygen. This causes ministrokes, that we can not see, and ultimately disorders of the brain that we now see so much of in children these days.
My 4 yr. old had a major reaction after getting his MMR and flu vax, and he ended up in the ER for hours and hours. They ran tests, etc. and wanted to blame his reaction on some rare disease that has do with his white blood cells. DUH!!! That was the turning point for me.
This "research" is from a quack doctor who wants to delve into politics, and there are no peer-reviewed scientific journal studies that support this theory. But then of course I'm sure you have read all of the anti-vaccine pages that twist things around, and all the actual scientific pages are just there to support pharmaceutical companies. Granted there are reactions to vaccines, but to throw something like this into a discussion is just fear-mongering.
Skittle
08-25-2009, 09:25 AM
How is he doing?
DD mil doc told me NOT to go in to the military ER but to take DD to a civilian hospital instead if there is anything. ;)
soonerfan
08-25-2009, 09:33 AM
This "research" is from a quack doctor who wants to delve into politics, and there are no peer-reviewed scientific journal studies that support this theory. But then of course I'm sure you have read all of the anti-vaccine pages that twist things around, and all the actual scientific pages are just there to support pharmaceutical companies. Granted there are reactions to vaccines, but to throw something like this into a discussion is just fear-mongering.
I'd have to agree with this. I did a HUGE research paper on vaccine safety for my Masters degree--I read over 60 studies, all published in peer-reviewed journals. In our home, we choose to skip some vaccines (varicella, maybe HPV), and the others we spread out according to Dr. Sears' schedule. We also delay MMR until after 3.
I have never even heard a whisper of so-called mini strokes from any reputable source, including those who are against vaccines.
A fever is a common reaction, and a fever under 103 is not extremely high for a young child. I hope your child is feeling better today!
BeckysBabyMakes6
08-25-2009, 09:48 AM
I would say that it is probably a virus, but given that the onset (of fever AND vomiting) is so close to the vaccine, I would certainly take him in! ER visits are free with the military so the only thing you are losing is time and you are gaining peace of mind. Better safe than sorry!
My oldest was sick for 3 months straight after his 15 month vaccines and when he finally got healthy again, he was no longer progressing in his development. He was diagnosed autistic. Same child also had an allergic reaction to his DTaP at 4 years old. My youngest had a moderate reaction to her 2 month vaccines (cried inconsolably for 3+ hours) and after that I stopped vaccinating. I believe that some people are more sensitive to vaccines and their ingredients.
I hope your DS is feeling better today! Keep us posted!
endmendoza
08-25-2009, 10:10 AM
How is your baby doing this morning?
sistermama
08-25-2009, 10:53 AM
What constitutes a "high" fever?
Usually over 104. In my house we medicate fevers over 103. Little ones can tolerate fevers physiologically much better than adults can.
I hope he's feeling better :hugs:
heidi320
08-25-2009, 01:23 PM
Thanks for checking with us! He seemed to be doing better through the night, though he was scratching is torso and arms in his sleep. This morning the fever was back to 102.3, so we called the nurse....it was interesting--the lady on the phone had to be told to take a message, told that she needed a phone number for a return call and then I had to tell her that she may want to write down our question for the call back.
They didnt call, so I called the appt line and got a same day appt. We were fist seen by a resident who checked his throat, ears and pule/breathing. Confirmed that he had a slightly rapid heartbeat and breathing. Said that though rare, it could be an adverse reaction to the vax. He left. Came back with his attending who looked Brandon over and concluded that he has a slight 'possibly viral' ear infection...that it could be a viral rash that he was scratching, and that if his symptoms dont go away to treat him with 10 days of amoxicillan that she prescribed. Told me that sometimes after 48 hours, about half of children with ear infections get better on their own.
He has not been acting in the least like his ear is bothering him. Just generally restless, and the fever. Redness at injection site. Honestly if it hadnt been for the vomiting, scratching and not eating, I wouldnt have called.
I dont know what to think.
BeckysBabyMakes6
08-25-2009, 02:14 PM
Personally, I don't buy it! Was he healthy (as far as you could tell) before the vaccine? If so, I would be surprised to have ALL of those symptoms appear such a short after the vax and have it be viral. Seems like a HUGE coincidence to me. This is exactly the problem with vaccines, though! You can't (or at least it's really hard to find someone who will) actually prove that it IS a reaction to the vaccine or it IS a viral infection. How do you know from looking at the outside of the child? My DH made a point when my DD got sick shortly after one of her Dr's appointments when she would have normally gotten shots (but I declined them). She got sick and was so cranky and miserable! DH said "If she had gotten shots, you would have been blaming her behavior/illness on them!" And he's right! But I'd rather not give the vaccine and KNOW it's a virus than give the vaccine and wonder....
I hope he gets better quickly! I'd keep an eye, on him, though. The itching sounds like it could possibly be an allergic reaction, although I do know that rashes can come with an viral illness, too! It doesn't hurt to keep an eye on him!
Colleeny
08-25-2009, 10:08 PM
Heidi, I hope your little one is feeling better, and has no further issues:) My lower half of this message is not directed to you. Each to there own beliefs. There is a great sea of evidence, and most people will "see" what they want to believe...no matter what.
This "research" is from a quack doctor who wants to delve into politics, and there are no peer-reviewed scientific journal studies that support this theory. But then of course I'm sure you have read all of the anti-vaccine pages that twist things around, and all the actual scientific pages are just there to support pharmaceutical companies. Granted there are reactions to vaccines, but to throw something like this into a discussion is just fear-mongering.
"peer reviewed scientific journal studies"? Like from the same brain washed doctors/peers who think vaxing is safe, and think that 6 -10 shots at a time is fine on a less than 1 year old? :banghead:
Actually, the evidence (not a theory) was presented quite convincingly with hard evidence, and the studies were performed prior to vaxing and post vaccination. It showed the exact areas of inflamation to the brain "ministrokes" in numerous children. MRIs can show the areas of the brain that are effected by vaccines.
Maybe you did not do EnOUGH research? Look up Dr. Moulden, and his continuting studies on vaccination.
momtoamiracle
08-25-2009, 11:04 PM
my niece had seizures after vaccines. Never had seizures any other time.
It sounds like a reaction to me. He probably is allergic to some substance in the vaccine. when you read the ingredients, it could be ANYTHING! I have reactions to penicillin, benadryl, ephedrine, birth control pills, and anti depressants. Something in all of those either gives me hives or makes my heart race like crazy.
No reason why your baby can't be having a reaction to the chemical shot into his blood stream.
poor little one.... hope he's better tomorrow.
romanlili
08-25-2009, 11:18 PM
I would be concerned because this isn't the first time he has had a fever after a vax.
Also, for the person who mentioned rotavirus - wouldn't the child have been vaccinated for rotavirus at the 2 month check up?
~happy2Bamommy~
08-26-2009, 07:38 AM
OP,glad your little one sound better :hugs:
It is far more likely he caught a cold at the doctor's office than had a reaction to the shot. :hugs:
must be a mutated cold to work this fast and have such odd symptoms?
rotavirus and norovirus could both affect a baby in that amount of time, both are extremely contagious, and the symptoms are throwing up and fever. If you were at a doctor's office there is definitely a good chance that could be it. If he was having an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine, then the symptoms would be different.
Could have been the above but I really,really doubt it.
What she described fits what I have seen over and over and over in children having been vaccinated in the last 48 hours.
In some children reactions/symptoms will worsen after each exposure. In others they will react visibly only the first or second time they are exposed.
For my neighbor the first two times were mild "reactions". Third he was hospitalized for high fever,seizures,vomiting. FWIW, the medical profession never did come out and say it was a reaction to being vaccinated.They just concluded that he was sick and they couldn't figure out what made him sick.
I am not a doctor but have to wonder why some children respond the way they do. If it is NOT related to the vaccinations,why do these unexplainable issues start within hours or days of getting a dose of vaccine? If the medical profession sees cases they can't diagnose why do they often refuse to consider that vaccinating "may" have been the cause?
XtraOrdinary
08-26-2009, 08:22 AM
I am not a doctor but have to wonder why some children respond the way they do. If it is NOT related to the vaccinations,why do these unexplainable issues start within hours or days of getting a dose of vaccine? If the medical profession sees cases they can't diagnose why do they often refuse to consider that vaccinating "may" have been the cause?
It really makes you wonder, dont it?
OP Im glad the lil one is doing better!
ErinMartin
08-26-2009, 09:13 AM
Since he's had a simliar situation after vax'ing before, I think it's much more likely it's a reaction to the vax than a virus.
My daughter was fully vaxxed until she was almost 2. With my son, we were a little more weary, but completely stopped after giving him the rototeq vax and he had a horrible reaction to it... TWICE. We didn't go back for the 3rd round. The doctor said his reaction was normal (vomitting, high fever, restlesness/fatique) but anything that makes my baby react like makes me wonder...
We did more research after that and decided to stop vaxxing all together. My 3rd hasn't had a single vax and is healthy as a horse. I'm much more comfortable with the risks associated with contracting/dealing with the diseases than with the risks associated with vaccines. We are considering vaxxing for herd immunity when they are MUCH older (as in - high school age) - and only certain vaxes. But there's still more time and research to do before then.
I'm glad your son is feeling better :)
heidi320
08-26-2009, 09:44 AM
Thank you for the continued concern! As of about 10pm last night, he is suddenly back to himself. Started eating like crazy and played with Daddy til almost 1am! He is still doing great this morning, I would never know anything was wrong if I hadnt seen him.
I do not believe that he has an ear infection or anything else. He was not seen at his pediatric clinic for the vax. We went to the immunization clinic for that. Brandon was presumably fine - he was walking around playing in the waiting area. He had a fever within about four hours of leaving, so I really dont think he would have picked up something that made him that sick that fast.
The important thing is that he seems to be 100% better and happy today!
Like previous posters have pointed out, this is not the first time has had this type of reaction to any vaccine - (and yes, he was vax'd on time per our schedule for rotavirus, and has had three doses), so it makes me nervous. DH is not as on board with the no-vaxxing, so I am not sure how to proceed. It seems to me that Brandons fevers come faster and are lasting longer, plus adding vomiting to the mix with each time.
kimmiepie
08-26-2009, 09:56 AM
Thank you for the continued concern! As of about 10pm last night, he is suddenly back to himself. Started eating like crazy and pkayed with Daddy til almost 1am! He is still doing great this morning, I would never know anything was wrong if I hadnt seen him.
I do not believe that he has an ear infection or anything else. He was not seen at his pediatric clinic for the vax. We went to the immunization clunuc for that. Brandon was presumably fine - he was walking around playing in the waiting area. He had a fever within about four hours of leaving, so I really dont think he would have picked up something that made him that sick that fast.
The important thing is that he seems to be 100% better and happy today!
Like previous posters have pointed out, this is not the first time has had this type of reaction to any vaccine - (and yes, he was vax'd on time per our schedule for rotavirus, and has had three doses), so it makes me nervous. DH is not as on board with the no-vaxxing, so I am not sure how to proceed. It seems to me that Brandons fevers come faster and are lasting longer, plus adding vomiting to the mix with each time.
I'm glad he's better. :)
Mama, I would be very careful, because as you said it seems to be getting worse each time. Next time could be much much worse if you kwim. Not trying to scare you, but it happens. I urge you to really really do your research on vaccines in the mean time. I know you say your dh is not on board with not vaxing..but he may need to see more concrete proof of why you shouldn't vax. This can be hard to do considering most of what is published is pro vax and the "little" people don't have enough money/pull to get other stuff published. My dh is extremely scientifically minded. He graduated with a degree in cell biology and minor in chemistry. He too, was pro vax until he did the research HIMSELF. He read "real" stuff that finally convinced him that we should not vax. He was able to decipher the studies and understand the lingo that I was not. :giggle:
I was going to give you a list of links to start with but I'll have to come back to that later when I have time. My dd needs me to check her work and my lo is crying. Maybe someone else can list some for you.
Good luck!!
ETA: If you knew my dh you would be surprised at his decision not to vax. Everything must be concrete, or close to it...nothing speculative. He's a numbers kinda guy. LOL So there really was something there to get him to agree with this.
heidi320
08-26-2009, 11:00 AM
I would appreciate some links for DH - he said he is willing to do some reading for himself. We have a copy of The Vaccine Book, which I like because its mostly objective. He needs more though.
lydiamom
08-26-2009, 11:06 AM
Since he's had a simliar situation after vax'ing before, I think it's much more likely it's a reaction to the vax than a virus.
My daughter was fully vaxxed until she was almost 2. With my son, we were a little more weary, but completely stopped after giving him the rototeq vax and he had a horrible reaction to it... TWICE. We didn't go back for the 3rd round. The doctor said his reaction was normal (vomitting, high fever, restlesness/fatique) but anything that makes my baby react like makes me wonder...
We did more research after that and decided to stop vaxxing all together. My 3rd hasn't had a single vax and is healthy as a horse. I'm much more comfortable with the risks associated with contracting/dealing with the diseases than with the risks associated with vaccines. We are considering vaxxing for herd immunity when they are MUCH older (as in - high school age) - and only certain vaxes. But there's still more time and research to do before then.
I'm glad your son is feeling better :)
The "normal" reaction for a vaccine that is supposed to prevent a vomiting virus is...vomiting??? Oh brother :rolleyes:
pumkinsmommy
08-26-2009, 12:55 PM
This "research" is from a quack doctor who wants to delve into politics, and there are no peer-reviewed scientific journal studies that support this theory. But then of course I'm sure you have read all of the anti-vaccine pages that twist things around, and all the actual scientific pages are just there to support pharmaceutical companies. Granted there are reactions to vaccines, but to throw something like this into a discussion is just fear-mongering.
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING. I was in severe pain after reading this and trying not to say anything. Alzheimers seems to have increased but actually hasn't. The chance of it happening is about 50% above the age of 80 and people are living so much longer now. Also it is actually being diagnosed whereas before it was just called dementia.
Lovely
08-26-2009, 01:12 PM
DS got 2 shots yesterday. One was polio, HiB, and dTap combined. The other was prevnar. last night he couldn't walk because his legs hurt to bad. He's had a high temp and very lethargic. He is 25 months and this is only the 2nd time he's got vaxxed. We've delayed.
NATTYBATSMOM
08-27-2009, 12:23 AM
I would appreciate some links for DH - he said he is willing to do some reading for himself. We have a copy of The Vaccine Book, which I like because its mostly objective. He needs more though.
The book, What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations by Stephanie Cave, MD. Good book, one that I read while pregnant. It helped talking to parents too, some were for it but others had kids who had some pretty bad reactions. I was the one doing the research because I was the one on the fence. DH said from the get-go, no vaccinations WHATSOEVER.
Unless DD got the Hep B without us being informed (it was in my birthplan that she NOT get the Hep B), the ONLY shot she has had was the Vitamin K. She has had no vaccinations that I am aware of (again, unless they slipped something after she was born).
It does sound like a vax reaction. That's one of the BIG things that turn me off of vaccinating my child, the fact that there are VERY acknowledgment if there is a reaction because doctors are SO determined to keep vaccines going. There have even been cases of children who have died from a vaccine reaction and the parents then getting charged with shaken baby. FORGET IT. I'm not taking any chances. It's a drug, just like any other drug and reactions happen and if the doctors are not going to recognize events as a reaction in order to help me make the best choices for my child, then no, we will not vaccinate.
XtraOrdinary
08-27-2009, 06:41 AM
The book, What Your Doctor May NOT Tell You About Childhood Vaccinations by Stephanie Cave, MD. Good book, one that I read while pregnant. It helped talking to parents too, some were for it but others had kids who had some pretty bad reactions. I was the one doing the research because I was the one on the fence. DH said from the get-go, no vaccinations WHATSOEVER.
Unless DD got the Hep B without us being informed (it was in my birthplan that she NOT get the Hep B), the ONLY shot she has had was the Vitamin K. She has had no vaccinations that I am aware of (again, unless they slipped something after she was born).
It does sound like a vax reaction. That's one of the BIG things that turn me off of vaccinating my child, the fact that there are VERY acknowledgment if there is a reaction because doctors are SO determined to keep vaccines going. There have even been cases of children who have died from a vaccine reaction and the parents then getting charged with shaken baby. FORGET IT. I'm not taking any chances. It's a drug, just like any other drug and reactions happen and if the doctors are not going to recognize events as a reaction in order to help me make the best choices for my child, then no, we will not vaccinate.WHAAAAAAAT??????? :ahh:
NATTYBATSMOM
08-27-2009, 07:22 AM
WHAAAAAAAT??????? :ahh:
Yup. I don't have any articles off the top of my head but I've seen things in passing here and there. I don't think it is very common though (thank goodness) but it has happened. Not that not vaccinating leaves one scott free but I'd rather take my chances there than by vaxing. JMO though, I know there are many parents who do vax and I think that's up to each and every family and what they are willing to deal with as far as risk because both sides do have risks. I just get annoyed when people say stuff about the fact that we don't vaccinate.
Skittle
08-27-2009, 11:20 AM
WHAAAAAAAT??????? :ahh:
Yep there were to cases in Germany alone that I know of. :cry:
ClothDiaperMePlease
08-27-2009, 11:33 AM
WHAAAAAAAT??????? :ahh:
Yup, there is a new documentary being released called "Vaccine Nation" with some of these stories in it. Scary stuff.
ClothDiaperMePlease
08-27-2009, 11:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUMZ-O-OsG0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vaccinenation.net%2F&feature=player_embedded Trailer for the movie ;)
XtraOrdinary
08-27-2009, 11:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUMZ-O-OsG0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vaccinenation.net%2F&feature=player_embedded Trailer for the movie ;)Thanks!!!
Tiffer23
08-27-2009, 12:06 PM
Okay honestly, a child should run a fever after a vaccine. The whole point of a vaccine is to trigger an immune response. If the immune system responds as it should, the child SHOULD run a fever. So I wouldn't be too concerned at all. And this coming from a non-vaxer. Also, the polio vaccine is very non-reactive compared to most other vaccines. So while it is completely possible that it's a vaccine reaction, it truly might not be at all.
RE: the ear infection, the doctor would have no idea if it was viral or bacterial until it did or didn't go away quickly. BUT, the fever very well could be from the ear infection. My son always ran 102 fevers with ear infections. And my poor boy has had 15ish ear infections in his life, so year... the symptoms could be right. I'd have thought he'd be fussier, but if the infection wasn't bad yet, it might just have been uncomfortable and not actually painful yet. I'd want confirmation on the ear infection though. I'd go back in 24 hours and see what they thought. Then you'd know for sure if it was a vaccine reaction (albeit one that technically should happen) or a fever from the ear infection.
Either way, I hope your little one feels better soon! :hugs:
AcaciaR
08-29-2009, 06:55 PM
If it was a fever but otherwise he was fine, I wouldn't be terribly concerned. But, the fact that he had other symptoms along with the fever, all occuring within hours of the vax, and its not the first time it has happened... yep, I'd be concerned. The problem with medical professionals being so quick to write off most reactions as being "normal" is that they are missing what isn't normal; my child's "normal" fever, lethargy and bouts of inconsolable crying were actually the tell-tale signs of encephalopathy; had I accepted it as a "normal" reaction to vaccinations, then I would have allowed more doses, which would have caused even more damage, likely permanent damage.
heidi320
08-29-2009, 07:23 PM
If it was a fever but otherwise he was fine, I wouldn't be terribly concerned. But, the fact that he had other symptoms along with the fever, all occuring within hours of the vax, and its not the first time it has happened... yep, I'd be concerned. The problem with medical professionals being so quick to write off most reactions as being "normal" is that they are missing what isn't normal; my child's "normal" fever, lethargy and bouts of inconsolable crying were actually the tell-tale signs of encephalopathy; had I accepted it as a "normal" reaction to vaccinations, then I would have allowed more doses, which would have caused even more damage, likely permanent damage.
This is what concerns me...I know that a mild fever is 'normal.' I question the fact that he had such a drastic response to one of the least reactive vaccines! Combined with the fact that similar things have happened in the past, and I am being written off each time bothers me. The military in general is very pro-vaccine, and I feel I am being pushed instead of given answers.
