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2wonderfulboys 09-15-2012 09:29 PM

I was induced with my 1st pregnancy and has an epidural. I went into labor naturally my 2nd time, but was unable to relax and let my body do what it needed, so I ended up with an epidural. This time I am hoping to go natutally all the way. What are some books/dvds/cds I should be looking into to help with this? I still have lots of time, but want to be fully prepared. TIA
I should also add I will be delivering in a hospital with an OB

Yarnjess 09-15-2012 10:12 PM

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I really liked The Birth Book by Dr Sears. Ina May's Guide to Childbirth is also really good. She has a section on the physiology of birth and a section of positive birth stories. The Bradley method books are also helpful, even if you don't take the class. I would also recommend hiring a doula. Doulas are trained to help you deal with labor and have lots of tricks to help you relax and work with your labor. I'm so glad I had one for my birth.

Connor 09-15-2012 10:18 PM

I second the pp on Ina May's book and the Bradley books. There is likely a Bradley teacher in your area. They meet once a week for 12 weeks, AWESOME class. I highly recommend it. :)

2wonderfulboys 09-16-2012 07:54 AM

What about hypnobabies? Someone on another page recommended them

JennTheMomma 09-17-2012 12:00 PM

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Active Birth is a great book. You also may want to look into hiring a Doula. They really help with women staying focus and help with relaxing and getting labor to go along smoothly.

lovebabies 09-17-2012 06:06 PM

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Ina May's Guide to Childbirth is my FAVORITE book ever! Extremely encouraging and empowering. For videos, Orgasmic Birth is my favorite, and I also really like The Business of Being Born (you can stream this one on Netflix). I second the idea of using a doula. She will be there to support you and your husband, and help you have the kind of birth you desire. http://doulamatch.net may help you find one in your area. Would you consider birthing or laboring in water? I labored in water with my first, and pushed #2 and #3 out in the tub. Water helps me relax and be much more comfortable, especially toward the end. I know it's not always an option, depending on where you're birthing, though. Good luck! Good for you researching and planning ahead! :)

DottieHarley 09-17-2012 06:47 PM

We found the jay Bradley book Husband Coached Childbirth to be very helpful as well as Ina May. IMO the best thing you can do is have a really supportive, informed birth partner.
Bradley class was super, super helpful.
We brought a combo radio/mp3 player/noisemaker and an ipod with a 24 hour playlist (lol). We had just gotten a Bob Dylan greatest hits cd. I distinctly remember resting while pushing and saying "i didnt know this song was dylan!"

creativeOTmomma 12-10-2012 05:26 PM

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I took a hypnobirthing class & I highly recommend it. It's soul purpose is to release your fears so you can be completely relaxed during labor & let your body gradually open instead of forcing it to open. I'm due with my first in March and I am confident that using the hypnobirthing techniques I will have a relaxed, painless, natural birth. You can find out more & find a certified hypnobirthing instructor near you at hypnobirthing.com

Mack 12-10-2012 05:52 PM

Hire a doula! Worth every penny!

SaraElise 12-10-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DottieHarley (Post 15696072)
We found the jay Bradley book Husband Coached Childbirth to be very helpful as well as Ina May. IMO the best thing you can do is have a really supportive, informed birth partner.
Bradley class was super, super helpful.
We brought a combo radio/mp3 player/noisemaker and an ipod with a 24 hour playlist (lol). We had just gotten a Bob Dylan greatest hits cd. I distinctly remember resting while pushing and saying "i didnt know this song was dylan!"

Yes this!

We never took any classes, or really used any specific method, but having my husband be informed and advocate for me when I got to the crazy intense "I want an epidural" stage really helped!

I've asked for an epidural for 2 of my 3 births, but never actually got one because I was *so* close my husband and awesome nurses have been able to talk me through it and help me relax a little so I just didn't need it.

Making sure that everyone knows your wishes and will do what it takes to help you achieve your goals is the best thing you can do for those times when you are ready to give up.

EmilytheStrange 12-10-2012 08:02 PM

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I had a lot of problems relaxing last time and I really need help, so I hired a doula. Highly recommend.

The books mentioned and Hypnobabies are all good ones as well. You can download 2 free samples of hypnobabies on their website to see if it's something you could get into. That'll save you a little money if it's not your thing.

steph410 12-10-2012 08:19 PM

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1. Husband Coached Childbirth (book)

2. Bradley method course (usually 12 weeks)

3. hire a doula

These are things that helped me. I had 2 births with epidurals just like you and then went on to have 2 natural births. You can totally do it, but it is so so helpful to prepare :) good luck!

Palooka 12-10-2012 08:37 PM

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I very strongly recommend taking a long class if you can find one. My hubby and I took a 2 hour once a week class for 9 weeks. I know, I know, we're first time parents. But it really got me feeling comfortable talking about pain and pain management, and it taught us both tons of coping techniques. You could also do a hypno-babies course, then a bradley course, etc., and then you and your SO will probably just start doing whatever comes naturally in the moment.

I know all this stuff is in books, but having a childbirth educator walk us through everything was a great experience. On that note I also really recommend a doula, because she will have tricks up her sleeve that you and your SO might be too tired or stressed to consider in the moment.

trying4more 12-10-2012 10:55 PM

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THIS
helped me SOOO much relax and trust my body. There is nothing you can really read that will work for sure when the time comes, but if you TRUST yourself and have a good support system, and listen to your body, then you'll be able to manage yourself without loosing total control.
I thought I had lost total control because I wanted the epidural SOOOOO bad but was told I needed a bag full of saline before they could do it, but by the time the saline was actually connected to me, I was pushing. I think that knowing I was gonna get an epidural relaxed me enough to get to the pushing face. That labor was beyond intense!
I loved having my natural births over my epidural births.
I guess I sorta felt like I "did" it instead of it "happening" to me!

Anyways, good luck!

c&w's mama 12-10-2012 11:17 PM

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I just did a yoga birthing workshop with DH and he was more ready/better informed with a few tricks and techniques.

A yoga ball, chair, shower, and DH = faster, natural delivery of DS.

But if he hadn't come early, I would have had a doula in training :) from a local nursing school.
I'd suggest a doula.

MegERjd 01-20-2013 03:51 PM

Re: hoping to have a natural birth...what materials should I look into?
 
Read about the fear tension pain cycle. And have a coached relaxation exercise on an iPod or something. Those 2 things helped me.

EmilytheStrange 01-20-2013 04:44 PM

Is there a place to find coached relaxation

JennTheMomma 01-20-2013 05:58 PM

Get a doula.

Read Active Birth. Really great book.

2wonderfulboys 01-20-2013 06:20 PM

I don't think I have enough time left to take a class. Also DH has crazy work hours that wouldn't allow it. I have hypnobabies on the way. I plan to get to the library sometime this week to pick up a few books. I am not sure that water birth is an option (I was never offered before/but never asked). I need to start drinking my RLT, and getting prepared. I'm running out of time!!

~Cricket~ 01-20-2013 06:54 PM

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I have read Ina May's book before birth a few times now. She's a real hippie. :) Some of the stuff in there I find a little over the top. BUT, she's really good at identifying the mind-body connection in labour, and how having your head "right" will help your labour go right. Very helpful and encouraging.
Also, look into alternative techniques for coping. Coached relaxation could work well for you, but have some other options available, so if you find you don't like it when you're actually in labour, you've got something else to try. Water is WONDERFUL, IMO, but you can also have heat packs, massage rollers, music, etc. Google should give you lots of options. :)
And, have your partner remind you that you CAN do it, you were made for this, and it's not going to last forever!
All the best!

~Cricket~ 01-20-2013 06:56 PM

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Even if you can't have a birth tub, try the shower. That's usually an option at least.

mollym 01-30-2013 11:19 PM

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Have you considered hiring a doula? Ours had tons of resources. Also, a friend loaned me her Bradley books. In truth, we didn't use much of our training; we just went with what worked and were lucky enough that it went as we'd hoped. But having all that reading and planning to back me up gave me a mental boost.

2wonderfulboys 01-31-2013 12:41 PM

I have been to the library for books twice. They are checked out and past due :( I have hypnobabies. I am 30 weeks soon and need to start it. I have just been so stressed out with everything (not just this). By the time I get a few free mins at night to open the books I'm out!

e.e.peltz 02-02-2013 12:57 PM

Re: hoping to have a natural birth...what materials should I look into?
 
Do you have the option of using a TENs unit? My midwife had one for me to use (I had my first baby at home and am planning a homebirth for my second - I'm 31 weeks), and it really helped me deal with the contractions. I plan on using it again for this next labor. If your doctor or midwife doesn't have one for you to use, you might be able to rent. The one I used was called the Elle Tens Machine.

2wonderfulboys 02-02-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by e.e.peltz (Post 16238977)
Do you have the option of using a TENs unit? My midwife had one for me to use (I had my first baby at home and am planning a homebirth for my second - I'm 31 weeks), and it really helped me deal with the contractions. I plan on using it again for this next labor. If your doctor or midwife doesn't have one for you to use, you might be able to rent. The one I used was called the Elle Tens Machine.

Never heard of it what is it?

~Cricket~ 02-02-2013 06:42 PM

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A tens machine uses electrical impulses to stimulate the nerves and muscles in your abdomen or back, I believe, and basically distract your nerves from sending pain signals.

Just came across this article and thought it would be helpful to you:

From the Banned From Babyshowers Blog.

Hospital Nurses and Natural Birth
A few weeks ago, I was in the emergency room with my son, thinking he had a staph infection. Long story short, he didn't. But it was an eventful night, to say the least. I heard a nurse on the phone with a doctor, panicked, as a baby boy was bleeding profusely from a circumcision-gone-wrong (I don't know what happened - he was still bleeding when we left) and was quite traumatized. I also heard a room full of nurses talking about labor and birth. I posted a few of the things on my BFBS Facebook page I heard (which were quite crazy if you asked me), and one of my former students-turning-Birth-Boot-Camp-Instructor, who happens to be a nurse, asked if she could write a blog post for Banned From Baby Showers about why nurses know so little about birth. How could I refuse? Thank you, Shazia, for helping us understand, not only the situation, but how we can improve the current state of affairs.


I have heard many stories from moms about a nurse being unsupportive and discouraging of natural birth. Perhaps you may have had one of these nurses attend your labor. I am a registered nurse and even I encountered a less than helpful nurse during the birth of my son at a local hospital. Nurses are often very knowledgeable and supportive of evidence-based practices in other specialties. If natural birth is evidenced to be the best option for achieving optimal outcomes for both mom and baby, why are some nurses unsupportive and even discouraging of natural birth? I hope to answer that question from a nurse’s perspective in this post.
A nurse’s knowledge base comes from their education and their experiences. To help me write this post, I polled several other nurses who work in various specialties and attended different nursing schools. I have my BSN from the University of Texas at Arlington. I went through a wonderful nursing program that consisted of 120 course hours. Birth was discussed in one 4 hour course. The course was a general women’s health course that covered pregnancy, birth, and the neonatal period. I was blessed to be taught by a Clinical Nurse Specialist who had homebirthed her own children and a Certified Nurse Midwife.
Not every nurse was so lucky during their nursing education. Some nurses that I polled stated that birth was such a small part of their nursing curriculum that they learned very little about birth. Some nurses said that birth was discussed more in depth, but comparing common maternity practices in the United States and evidence-based maternity practices were not part of the discussion. Not teaching evidence-based practices seems ridiculous to someone outside of nursing, but nursing schools in the United States are preparing nurses to work in healthcare settings in the United States. Labor and delivery nurses attend hospital births. Our hospitals do not routinely practice evidence-based maternity care. Nurses in the United States are expected to assist with planned cesarean sections, elective inductions, epidural anesthesia, and other medical interventions in birth. Unfortunately, that is what hospital birth looks like in our country. Natural birth that is intervention and medication free is rare, and most happen out of the hospital. Many labor and delivery nurses, much like obstetricians, have never observed a natural birth. In order to prepare a nurse for the patients and procedures she would encounter on a labor and delivery unit, the natural birth process is not always a priority for educational institutions.
I also polled a few nurses who work in labor and delivery. Their input was insightful. They verified that natural, intervention free birth was a rare occurrence on their labor and delivery units. They stated many moms came in to the hospital with a birth plan to have no pain medication and limit medical interventions. However, the majority had done NO preparation for their birth, other than typing out a birth plan. They said most of their coworkers view the birth plan as a joke, because most of the moms who write them end up asking for everything they wrote they did not want. One of my professors in nursing school said that you can plan all pregnancy long, but it means nothing if you don’t prepare. If you don’t take the time to prepare, you might as well forget the planning too. It’s like writing down that you are going to make an A on the test, but never actually studying for it.
When a mother is not prepared for birth, but seeks a natural birth, the demands of their nurse are drastically increased. Nursing units are often understaffed and nurses are overworked. There is a tremendous demand on a nurse when a mother is not prepared for birth, a father is not prepared to be a birth coach, and a doula isn’t present to assist mom throughout the birth process. This can create animosity towards the patients that seek a natural birth, but due to lack of preparation rely on their nurse for all of their needs during labor. Even though more women are asking for a natural birth in the hospital, many still end up with unnecessary medical intervention due to their lack of being informed and prepared. Unfortunately, this means that even labor and delivery nurses lack experience in the natural birth process, because the majority of patients are not giving birth naturally. They also doubt the ability for women to birth naturally, because they see many unsuccessful attempts. When a well-prepared and well-informed mom comes in to the hospital, they are often faced with judgment and animosity because they are categorized with the moms who aren’t prepared and informed. They assume that they will be unsuccessful also.
What can we do about this and how can we ensure that women having a hospital birth have supportive nursing staff? We can demand evidence-based practices. We can choose doctors and hospitals that have practices in place to support the natural birth process. If we demand better care during our birth and evidence-based practices, we can work towards a society where medical staff at hospitals have seen natural birth and are experienced assisting moms who wish to avoid medical interventions and are well-prepared to do so. If we continue to blindly follow bad medical advice and fail to advocate for ourselves, hospitals will continue to utilize their policies that inhibit mothers from achieving the type of birth they want. The more we demand for better births, the more experience nurses and other hospital staff will have with natural birth.
If we can change the way women choose to birth and prepare them well, we can change the way our hospitals handle birthing women. If more moms educate themselves and prepare for an intervention free birth, we can ensure that our labor and delivery nurses gain experience with the natural birth process. If we change the norm of birth in our society, the nursing schools in our area will also have to change their way of teaching to prepare nurses who want to go into labor and delivery to effectively provide care to a birthing mom.
~Shazia from Above & Beyond Birth blog can also be found on Facebook.

e.e.peltz 02-07-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Cricket~ (Post 16240151)
A tens machine uses electrical impulses to stimulate the nerves and muscles in your abdomen or back, I believe, and basically distract your nerves from sending pain signals.

Yup that's its. Worked well for me.

lovewool 02-08-2013 08:49 AM

Re: hoping to have a natural birth...what materials should I look into?
 
hypnobirthing!!! I am so glad I took the class and read the book with my first. Both of my births have been natural hospital water births. I truly did breath my babies down until my body took over as suggested. No push coaching! This time around, I envisioned the areas of my body where I was in pain from labor in a box and didn't let that sensation affect the rest of my body (like going into panic or tensing up) and I would vocalize to myself that it was "just right there" when the contractions were really intense.

birdinhand 02-11-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mollym (Post 16228125)
Have you considered hiring a doula? Ours had tons of resources. Also, a friend loaned me her Bradley books. In truth, we didn't use much of our training; we just went with what worked and were lucky enough that it went as we'd hoped. But having all that reading and planning to back me up gave me a mental boost.

A doula is like the wakling-talking-breathing childbirth education class, as well as an interpreter when the medical lingo starts flying. She is also familiar with the nomal emotional and physical changes a mama goes through. And she suppots mom and dad, not just mom. This allows dad to participate at the level he is comfortable at.

I wouldn't give birth without one :).

birch0902 02-22-2013 01:40 PM

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I took a hypnobirthing class and used it with my first baby (October 15th, 2012). It was amazing. It really helped me to focus and concentrate and deal with the pain, that was quite manageable with these techniques. It also helped that I waited to go the hospital until I was about 4 minutes a part too, so the hospital did not have time to encourage me to do anything else. It is essential your husband, partner, or someone who will be with you at birth attend this class. They will help serve as your advocates in the hospital, help you do the hypnobirthing techniques.

You will want some time to practice the techniques after the class. I had an extremely quick labor...between labor pains starting and my son being birthed was only a short 4 hours.

In preparation for the birth I spoke with my doctors and let them know that I was interested in a natural birth and that these were the things I was looking for, modifying the birth preferences sheet I received from the hypnobirthing technique. If I had been in labor longer, I would have definitely planned to use a birthing tub or shower which I hear is a really good natural child birth pain management technique. My doctor wouldn't let me give birth in the tub, but would let me labor in it. I also had to discuss with them about wanting to walk around and use different positions. They were not use to this, but willing to give it a try as long as it did not hurt the baby or me.

I also was doing a weekly pre-natal yoga class, which I think really helped my flexibility and strength to prepare for labor. My doctor and nurses, said they were absolutely amazed at my labor, never seen a natural child birth quite so focused and quiet. It wasn't pain free for sure, but definitely manageable with these techniques. It obviously helped big time, that I had a short labor.

evasimone 02-22-2013 04:47 PM

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I second the tens unit. I loved it. I bought a $30 one on overstock.com and some electrodes from amazon.com. I took hypnobabies and unfortunately it didn't work that well for me but for some people it works really well.

Barbmh 02-27-2013 10:32 AM

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I took Bradley classes and love love loved them! Also Ina May's book is awesome.

Pumpkinnoodlemama 02-27-2013 12:25 PM

Re: hoping to have a natural birth...what materials should I look into?
 
Yes, definitely get a doula! Mine helped me SO much.

For books, I loved "Birthing From Within." It was super informative and helped me prepare mentally and emotionally for labor. The authors are Pam England and Rob Horowitz.

Good luck, mama! It's hard work, and you can do it! Your body is made to give birth. :)

mommyshanti 02-27-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by e.e.peltz (Post 16238977)
Do you have the option of using a TENs unit? My midwife had one for me to use (I had my first baby at home and am planning a homebirth for my second - I'm 31 weeks), and it really helped me deal with the contractions. I plan on using it again for this next labor. If your doctor or midwife doesn't have one for you to use, you might be able to rent. The one I used was called the Elle Tens Machine.

is that kinda like what the chiro uses? felt like a million ants all over my back lol

abunchoflemons 02-27-2013 03:13 PM

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well i had a friend tell me to deny u r in labor for as long as you can... yes there is a point of not getting drugs/ going back... so dont let someone tell you that u can have epi any time. my ob finished dialati8ng my last 3 cm manually & as long as no back labor you should be good. i had an awesome nurse as my mom was watching our 21 month & couldnt be there saying u can do it as well as my ob.. although my ob saw me a bit mad & all...no swear words though... no time between pushing & alll... maybe next time i could try to sneak those words in....just keep telling urself u cfan do it like the engine that could. women have been having babies for a long time without drugs so i figured maybe i could too & i did & it was my biggest baby yet at 9lbs. im 5 '1 by the way....dont forget to breathe.lamaze never told me about back labor which is excrutiating... so dont believe lamaze when they say contractions travel around ur belly... mine were i like cramps both of the last 2 times and in small of my back in a bigger area its bearable but once in my spine i need help like in back labor.

not that i think i want to do home birth as my hubby would need to learn a bit more on how t9o help our ob said....


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