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cjslater1 08-08-2012 09:46 AM

Vasectomy (permanent?)
 
My daughter is 6 months tomorrow, I also have a three year old son. I had always talked about having 5-6 kids but now I feel really happy with just these two. We got married young and waited 6 yrs to have our first so it was easy to say "oh I want 6" but now I just would rather focus on the two I have and not be completely broke the rest of our lives. I am considering asking my husband to get a vasectomy, but what if ten yrs from now I decide I just want one more? How permanent is a vasectomy, once it's done is it done forever?

thekuan 08-08-2012 09:49 AM

It's safe to assume it's permanent, since there is a chance that a reversal may not take. One of my friends sadly found that out the hard way, and now they are having to do in vitro with stored sperm.

You could try an iud?

cjslater1 08-08-2012 09:51 AM

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I really don't like the side effects of IUD, it seems like people gain a lot of weight from them, I also had a friend who had a lot of hormonal problems and ended up having to have it removed.

Fishie Kisses 08-08-2012 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thekuan (Post 15516521)
It's safe to assume it's permanent, since there is a chance that a reversal may not take. One of my friends sadly found that out the hard way, and now they are having to do in vitro with stored sperm.

You could try an iud?

I agree. Paragard(copper) is good for 10 years, Mirena(hormonal) is good for 5.

thekuan 08-08-2012 10:23 AM

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Yeah, Paragard is what my mw recommends because there are no hormones.

mama_to_DJM 08-08-2012 10:25 AM

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I'll just tell you a little about my story. After having my 2nd child, I was 100% DONE having kids. I gave away my maternity clothes, etc. I couldn't ever see changing my mind. Well... when my youngest was 18 months old, we decided to TTC #3! I couldn't believe I changed my mind, but I did. She's 3 1/2 now, and I am so glad she's part of our family!!

What I told myself then was that I wouldn't make any permanent decisions until my youngest child was at least 2. Even still, I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on permanent bc.

Kap7270 08-08-2012 11:33 AM

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My understanding is that vasectomies should be considered permanent. If you decide to try reversing it, then a reversal is more effective if the original procedure was just a few years prior. If you try reversing it ten years later, more scar tissue will have formed making the reversal less likely to be successful.

gingerpeachee 08-08-2012 12:08 PM

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Don't get a tubal or a vasectomy unless there is absolutely no circumstance that will leave you wanting more children.

4boys1girlforme 08-08-2012 12:32 PM

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I was done after 2 children as well and you can see by my un that we changed our minds!

Trynitey 08-08-2012 12:41 PM

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Nope, not done forever but it's a very painful process to get done and get undone. DH had a vasectomy and a vas reversal and he said that the reversal was hell. We are now pregnant after 4 months after the vas reversal, but he didn't even have his vasectomy for 3yrs. Once 5yrs goes by, the chances of getting pregnant go down. The longer the vas is in place the longer it can take to get pregnant or the less likely it is that the vas reversal will work.

If you think there is ANY chance at all that you will have more, I highly recommend NOT having him do a reversal. Go after an IUD or something that is a little less permanent.

bigmamakelsey 08-08-2012 12:46 PM

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They have vasectomies now where they place a small clamp, instead of cutting it, so it's fairly easy to reverse.
Still though, I would not consider getting one unless you're 100% you're done. There are other birth control options out there that last 5 or more years and that can be removed at anytime.

cjslater1 08-08-2012 04:56 PM

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I was reading about some of the IUDs but I have read some stories about them like people getting pregnant and miscarrying, or that it acts just to keep an embryo from implanting, I am pro life so that is an issue for me after the egg is fertilized. Also about it ripping the uterus. That all has me nervous, are there any other options?

KaleidoscopeEyes 08-10-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thekuan (Post 15516666)
Yeah, Paragard is what my mw recommends because there are no hormones.

yep that's what i had. i was told it lasted 12 years though. DH just got a V and they said that while a reversal is sometimes possible a V should be considered permanent

KaleidoscopeEyes 08-10-2012 10:22 PM

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according to PP
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Both the ParaGard and the Mirena IUDs work mainly by affecting the way sperm move so they can't join with an egg. If sperm cannot join with an egg, pregnancy cannot happen.
For some women, Mirena may prevent the egg from leaving the ovary. Pregnancy cannot happen if there is no egg to join with sperm. Progestin also prevents pregnancy by thickening a woman's cervical mucus. The mucus blocks sperm and keeps it from joining with an egg.

Kap7270 08-11-2012 07:08 AM

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according to the patient information leaflet on paragard's website:
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How does ParaGard® work?
Ideas about how ParaGard® works include preventing sperm from reaching the egg, preventing sperm from fertilizing the egg, and preventing the egg from attaching (implanting) in the uterus. ParaGard® does not stop your ovaries from making an egg (ovulating) each month.
The fact that the ectopic pregnancy rate is so much higher in women who use IUDs strongly suggests to me that a big part of the way they work is by preventing implanting in the uterus. If they primarily worked by stopping fertilization, then you would expect to see a similar ectopic rate as women on no birth control.

nursesweet 09-27-2012 12:05 PM

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Vasectomy reversals can be very pricey too. My brother in law is considering having it done and it's definitely NOT covered by insurance.

What about the pill? You can get ones that have lower doses of hormones (ex: lowestrin). I'm with you on the IUD thing. It's definitely not for me either.

jamiejo 09-29-2012 10:55 AM

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I was somewhat in your shoes not long ago. Totally overwhelmed with the two we have, and thinking it was time for Dh to get a V. A month later we were surprised and pregnant with the wee one we lost 5 weeks later. Right now, I am so incredibly thankful I did not bring up the idea of a V. If we don't have another, I'm ok with that. But the one we lost.... I was so attached instantly even tho the timing was *off*
It's really easy when your babe is 6mo to be so overwhelmed that you can't imagine ever wanting another. But one of the PP's said she would wait until youngest is 2 to make any permanent decisions. I agree with this.
We use condoms on fertile days right now. We are welcoming to the idea of another, but there are other ways too. Spermicide + condoms during fertile days. charting etc. There are good ways to avoid without hormones. I personally am not open to an IUD either. But at times, it would be really nice to not have it be a worry at all. :hugs:

Jlg325j 10-03-2012 08:14 PM

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I also want to add most insurance companies won't do the vasectomy without 1. age requirement 2. X number of children already 3. counseling classes attended by patient.

KelseyH 10-03-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cjslater1
I was reading about some of the IUDs but I have read some stories about them like people getting pregnant and miscarrying, or that it acts just to keep an embryo from implanting, I am pro life so that is an issue for me after the egg is fertilized. Also about it ripping the uterus. That all has me nervous, are there any other options?

NuvaRing does not prevent pregnancy or implantation - just ovulation. I haven't had the chance to use it but my bff uses it and she loves it. I had my Mirena removed before my 1st pp ovulation for those exact reasons (oh yeah, and crazy mood swings, sucky metabolism, etc). I couldn't live with myself if an egg was fertilized and Mirena just made the environment too hostile for it to survive. :( :(

Kap7270 10-04-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KelseyH (Post 15766969)
NuvaRing does not prevent pregnancy or implantation - just ovulation. I haven't had the chance to use it but my bff uses it and she loves it. I had my Mirena removed before my 1st pp ovulation for those exact reasons (oh yeah, and crazy mood swings, sucky metabolism, etc). I couldn't live with myself if an egg was fertilized and Mirena just made the environment too hostile for it to survive. :( :(

That's not necessarily true - they're not entirely sure exactly how NuvaRing prevents all pregnancies. According to the prescriber information leaflet for nuvaring:
"Although the primary effect of this action is inhibition of ovulation, other alterations include changes in the cervical mucus (which increase the difficulty of sperm entry into the uterus) and the endometrium (which reduce the likelihood of implantation)."

Clearly it doesn't always prevent ovulation (because there is a failure rate), so it's hard to know how often there is breakthrough ovulation but no pregnancy due to preventing implantation. This is true of all hormonal birth control (not just nuvaring).

If you got to nuvaring.com and click on prescribing information, you can get to the document where my quote is from. Bottom of the first page in that document.


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