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pgkcb13 07-28-2011 04:12 PM

Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
So here's a quick history: with DD1 I had a c-section and didn't get to nurse for almost two hours. Once I got here there she stayed latched on for almost 24 hours straight (I was soo sore!). We continued to BF on demand but she cried constantly the first week or so and then got real sluggish and sleepy. She was losing too much weight so they had me start supplementing with formula. We used a syringe/tube system at first but she was just spitting the formula back out so we added the bottle. I worked with a couple different LCs, pumped, took fenugreek, and continued to nurse on demand and bottle feed on schedule. At 5m DD1 started refusing the breast and I was just so exhausted from working so hard to make BFing work that I gave up and went to just bottle. LCs said she'd been getting .5-1oz breast milk at a feeding. Feeding were taking me an hour.

SO... to get to the point, I was able to have a successful VBAC with DD2 and she was latched on within minutes. She nursed every 1-2 hours on demand consistently the first day or so (on demand) and on monday I thought my milk might be coming in, tuesday she seemed to be getting a good amount, and then tuesday night she started increasing frequency (last night it was basically switching from one side to the other all night). She's been peeing and pooping okay (except she had a couple loose stools this am), but she's still losing weight and I'm starting to have the same sore/achy empty feeling when she tries to nurse (same empty feeling I had w/DD1).

I've been eating and drinking like crazy (though I've lost 30lbs since friday...) and yesterday I started the mother love liquid I've seen mentioned on here so many times. I also had my thyroid levels tested (I'm hypo-thyroid) and the levels are off so they're adjusting my medication today. I also started pumping tuesday. I just feel like I'm doing everything I can but I know they're going to want me to start supplementing at her appointment tomorrow and I just can't imagine going through everything I went through with DD1 only to end in failure again. Part of me feels like if I have to supplement I just want to switch to formula, but then that makes me really sad, not to mention we really can't afford the $100+ a month in formula...

I'm just very very frustrated and stressed (and I'm sure THAT's helping). Any advice is greatly appreciated!

cedricsmom 07-28-2011 04:26 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
What do you mean by lose stools? Do you have LLL in your area, contact a lactation consultant. I would not be concerned about weight loss , all infants lose some weight after birth. I would definately not supplement, that starys a vicious cycle. What is your babies current weight and what was the birth weight? I have an empty feeling most of the time but there is enough there. If the baby is having wet diapers and stools there is enough going in. You can also get information from this site:

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/index.html

pgkcb13 07-28-2011 05:53 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
by loose stool I mean it's basically water with some chunks in it.

Her birth weight was 9lbs, she's right around 8lbs now.

Swimmingly 07-28-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
Have you ever seen EBF poo before? I know you said you started supplementing pretty early with your first child, so maybe you haven't?

Both my DD's pretty much poo'd WATER for the first few months. I mean, it was yellow/brown/whatever colored but it was water with a few chunks/seeds here and there. It is NOT at all similar to the poo you get with formula. Even with formula supplementation, the poo changes a LOT. I don't think "loose stool" in an EBF newborn is really abnormal.

Mara'sMommy 07-28-2011 07:34 PM

I wouldn't pump and nurse as much as possible. Comfort nursing too. Just have your baby at your breast at all times if possible. Alot of people have seen an increase using fenugreek, don't know if you've tried that- but im sure you've heard of it.

And just relax, if you do end up having to supplement it's not the end of world. I think some people put too much pressure on this need to have ebf babies, some mamas just can't do it for whatever reasons.

Sorry, I hope everything works out.

MichelleSG 07-28-2011 07:54 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
Your DD1 story sounds just like mine, it was horrid. The stress put me into deep PPD, totally untreated for 2 years. I managed to bottle and breast feed up to 6 months and had to stop bf because they wanted to do surgery on me again. It sucked something awful.
With this nb I've supplemented with maybe 2-4oz of formula a day because my dh does everything his mother says and she wants to bottle feed. It's an on going battle and now you know why I moved us from CA to TX. Too bad she knows our address....
Regardless, with this nb bf has been so much better and after about 10-14 days my milk finally came in for real. The difference I think? Stress, I don't have nearly as much as I did with the first go around, even with a failed VBAC and repeat c (and the freaking mil moving in for months). Take all that stress and let it go. Don't worry about what the doctor says, just work on keeping that baby attached to your chest as much as possible, sit down, and relax. Enjoy your baby time and will all the negative feelings away. If that doesn't work then next time you see your doctor see if there's anything they can give you to help. My gf got some sort of nasal spray the helped with her let-down response. She said it was super relaxing. Who knows, it could help!

AndeeL 07-28-2011 07:54 PM

Do lots of skin to skin contact. Breasts always respond more to nursing than pumping, so nurse a lot!

Remember, with every supplement bottle, that's so much less milk for your body to make.

At this age, look at output, not weight. :thumbsup:

rachelanne820 07-28-2011 09:22 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
I agree with PP...nurse ALL the time. When she sleeps, pump. I pumped about every hour for the first month or so. It was really hard but my DD didn't latch until 11 weeks and I was determined to atleast give her my milk. My milk finally came in and she nurse fine now at almost 4 months. And is a little chubster. She is still nursing on demand and does so quite often. Sometimes only for a minute or two.

KristieW 07-28-2011 10:12 PM

Re: Really stressed out, need ideas/support
 
Are you in the Seattle area? Would donor milk help?

jessnic 07-28-2011 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichelleSG
Your DD1 story sounds just like mine, it was horrid. The stress put me into deep PPD, totally untreated for 2 years. I managed to bottle and breast feed up to 6 months and had to stop bf because they wanted to do surgery on me again. It sucked something awful.
With this nb I've supplemented with maybe 2-4oz of formula a day because my dh does everything his mother says and she wants to bottle feed. It's an on going battle and now you know why I moved us from CA to TX. Too bad she knows our address....
Regardless, with this nb bf has been so much better and after about 10-14 days my milk finally came in for real. The difference I think? Stress, I don't have nearly as much as I did with the first go around, even with a failed VBAC and repeat c (and the freaking mil moving in for months). Take all that stress and let it go. Don't worry about what the doctor says, just work on keeping that baby attached to your chest as much as possible, sit down, and relax. Enjoy your baby time and will all the negative feelings away. If that doesn't work then next time you see your doctor see if there's anything they can give you to help. My gf got some sort of nasal spray the helped with her let-down response. She said it was super relaxing. Who knows, it could help!

I am battling a low supply after only 3 weeks, and a PITA MIL so this made me laugh. She does not like to travel so I want to move as far away as possible lol. You cracked me up!


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