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magdalynaa 06-21-2012 07:55 AM

Paranoid about not pumping enough
 
I guess this is more of a vent than anything.

My LO is 1 month and 3 days today. I stayed home from work for the first month, but I came back on Tuesday. She nursed on demand while I was at home. We were concerned about her taking a bottle when I returned to work, so DH started giving her a bottle of BM at night. She took to it fine. She nurses great, really. She's gained weight on track and makes pleeeeeeenty of wet/dirty diapers a day. My mom now keeps LO during the day for about 9 hours. I nurse her as soon as I get home, after dinner, before bed, and twice during the night.

I rented a Medela Symphony from the hospital, and I've been slowly but consistently building a freezer stash while I was at home. LO prefers the right breast, so I generally nursed her and pumped the left side. I think I pumped maybe 50-60 oz for the freezer and about 40 oz in the fridge at any given time in the last 3 weeks. Everything was going great.

The problem is that I can't convince my mom or DH that breastfed babies can overeat from bottles. They always tell me she was "starving" because she sucked down the first bottle they gave her, so they gave her more. DH has given her 5 oz in about two hours, and my mom thinks she gave her 18 oz in 9 hours yesterday. That's 2 oz an hour! I was so hopeful the first day my mom kept her because she ate 12 oz in 9 hours, which lined up with the 1-1.5 oz an hour "average" rate. Then yesterday... 18 oz.

I wasn't fixated on her eating the "correct" amount. I know her intake may vary at feedings, and I know the 1-1.5 oz per hour is a guideline, not an exact science. But still. This just seems like way too much to me. Especially since she eats right before I leave for work and as soon as I get home.

I've tried talking to both of them. It's not doing any good. I've printed out info on bottlefeeding breastfed babies. It's not helping. I'm not pumping enough anymore to keep up with the rate they're feeding her. I pump 20-21 oz a day. So if she eats 18 oz with my mom and 5 oz from DH, bam... not enough milk, and I'll be raiding my freezer stash every day. I'm pumping every 3 hours at work, eating oatmeal, and taking More Milk.

They're both very gung ho on BFing, so I've even tried telling them that I'll have to supplement with formula if they keep overfeeding her. I thought that might worry them enough to reconsider how much they're feeding her. It hasn't. They both assure me that it will be fine, I won't have to supplement, it's not a big deal, etc. Or if I do have to supplement, that's also not a big deal. It IS a big deal to me. I worked so hard at establishing my supply, and I really thought I could BF her successfully and still work full-time, but it just doesn't look like it's going to work out that way.

:(

Chibirsd 06-21-2012 08:36 AM

Just tell them after they feed her a bottle To
Offer a paci and other comfort measures( swaddling /rocking / swaying / holding/ walking ) and if she is still acting hungry after all that they can feed more, but just an ounce at a time.

Lindsey - RN wishing to be a SAHM. mom to the cutest DS born 10/3/11.

Chibirsd 06-21-2012 08:37 AM

Also she might just be going thru a growth spurt.

Lindsey - RN wishing to be a SAHM. mom to the cutest DS born 10/3/11.

magdalynaa 06-21-2012 09:15 AM

She's not taking a paci, but I read someone else's post recently about offering one at the end of a feeding? I may try that.

My mom and DH both FILL the bottle if they offer more. I don't understand why. I've asked them to only give her an oz at a time if she drinks the whole bottle.

Should I start pumping every 2 hrs instead of 3?

I guess I'm most resentful because they talk so much about how great BM is but aren't helping me meet her needs.

abunchoflemons 06-21-2012 09:33 AM

Re: Paranoid about not pumping enough
 
Maybe she is in a growth spurt. Babies do that all the time. Is there a way u could pump longer in day or more often? I pumped ever 2 or 3 hrs & got lots of extra.

magdalynaa 06-21-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abunchoflemons
Maybe she is in a growth spurt. Babies do that all the time. Is there a way u could pump longer in day or more often? I pumped ever 2 or 3 hrs & got lots of extra.

I definitely could do either. What would be more beneficial - longer or more often? I pump 20 mins every 3 hours right now. I get 2-3 oz per breast in the morning but sometimes only 1-1.5 in the evening.

mamma_z 06-21-2012 11:30 AM

What type of nipple do you use on the bottle? We used a preemie nipple to slow the flow so that DS remained satisfied with a smaller (4 oz) bottle.

Maybe it would help to let them know that bottle-feeding should mimic the breast as much as possible so baby doesn't prefer bottle (which could lead to exclusively pumping for you, a pita which might reduce your supply or lead to early weaning).

mamma_z 06-21-2012 11:33 AM

Also, have they seen you pump? Sometimes people don't realize it's a pain until they see women drag out all the parts, attach everything, pump while massaging for 20-40 min, the detach and clean everything up, just for 3-4 oz of milk.

Maybe if they knew how hard you work for it, they would try to make it last?

magdalynaa 06-21-2012 11:52 AM

Re: Paranoid about not pumping enough
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mamma_z (Post 15284717)
What type of nipple do you use on the bottle? We used a preemie nipple to slow the flow so that DS remained satisfied with a smaller (4 oz) bottle.

Maybe it would help to let them know that bottle-feeding should mimic the breast as much as possible so baby doesn't prefer bottle (which could lead to exclusively pumping for you, a pita which might reduce your supply or lead to early weaning).

I'm using the regular newborn nipples that came with the bottles. I use Playtex Nursers. LO does tend to feed for a long time when I BF her (she grazes, falls asleep, etc.), so I think you may be on to something about slowing the flow to satisfy her with a smaller bottle. DH's number 1 reason for feeding her more is how fast she ate the first bottle. I'm not 100% sure that she's even still showing hunger cues when he gives her another bottle at night, or if he's just giving her another bottle to knock her out so she'll sleep. In all fairness to my mom, she'll do every soothing trick in the book to try to get her to sleep aside from giving her a bottle.

My mom did BF me, so I had originally thought she would know what a pita it was, but she was a SAHM and only needed to pump a couple of times for any of her kids. She has sat with me while I'm pumping, so she knows it's time-consuming, but I'm not sure she knows the stresses of maintaining a supply by pumping while you're trying to work. I don't think she knows about BF babies overeating from bottles, aside from what I've told her.

I dunno. It's just so frustrating. I think I'll try pumping more frequently today and see if my supply catches up in a couple days.

HugeBabyBoy 06-21-2012 11:51 PM

My DS averages 2 ounces an hour and has since about 5 weeks old. He is now 5 months old and takes 46 ounces a day and started rice cereal.

He's a huge boy 27+ inches & 22lbs, and has always eaten with a ferocious appetite. (We grow really big people in my family, lol! I'm 6 foot and skinny, and I was 24lbs at 10 months old.)

DS has seen a Pediatric GI and they say that although he's big, he needs to eat what he needs to grow and flourish. If we cut down his food, like many people suggested to us, it would be detrimental to his specific needs.

No two babies are alike. You're not alone in the mind boggling breastmilk consumption of your infant, and it is what some babies do need. Talk to your baby's doctor and a Peds GI before reducing feedings.


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