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ColbyMama 07-17-2012 08:46 PM

Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
Hey Mamas,

So my youngest was diagnosed with a dairy allergy at 3 weeks of age. I cut all dairy out of my diet while I breastfed and now she is on special formula. Although the doc said I can start to give her dairy when she turns one, I'm not comfortable with it. I am eating a vegan diet and would like my family to follow in my footsteps. Sooooooo,

Any advice on what to give her once she is off of formula? I'm nervous about soy milk, but I'm thinking that may be the best option. Will she get enough fat and nutrients from non-dairy milks?

Thanks for your help! :thumbsup:

abunchoflemons 07-17-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
I know a friend is giving now 7 yr old who was diagnosed with milk allergy b4 is trying milk slowly & not seem to really be too bad but other than that not sure on soy milk besides I had tobe on it when I was little moving from s. Korea to usa. Just do reasearch on other things that have those same vitamns in them.

Monaime 07-18-2012 03:37 AM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
We drink a combination of organic/non-GMO coconut and almond. To mix it up and because the fat content in coconut milk is a lot higher than in almond. I prefer taste of the coconut milk better by itself or with cereal. I generally use the almond milk for shakes. When DD is old enough that is what she will be drinking along with BF.
We do not drink cow milk. Besides the reasons listed below ( which we agree with) we are lactose intolerant.*

From*www.livestrong.com*website:
Dairy cows produce milk for 10 months after they give birth to a calf. They produce approximately eight gallons of milk per day. Some people believe that cow's milk is for calves and not for humans. It is true that the milk of mammals is specific to the needs of their young. There has been controversy over the care of dairy cows, what they are fed, how often they are milked, how healthy they are and whether they have hormones. According to the Harvard University Gazette, hormones in milk are dangerous. Often cows are still being milked when they are pregnant, and the estrogen goes into the milk fat. Excessive estrogen has been linked to certain cancers. *Milk contains lactose, a milk solid that some people cannot digest.
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Coconut milk will vary in nutritional content based on the brand and flavor. One cup of unsweetened coconut milk has 50 calories, 5 grams of fat, 0 milligrams of cholesterol, 1 gram of protein and 1 gram of carbohydrate. Many are enriched with calcium, vitamin D, vitamin B-12, magnesium, folate, iron, selenium and zinc.*
Dairy milk with 2 percent fat contains 125 calories per cup, 8.53 grams of protein, 4.7 grams of fat, 20 milligrams of cholesterol and 12.18 grams of carbohydrates.*

Dairy milk =calcium 314 milligrams per cup. Skim milk with no milk fat has approximately 87 calories, which is still more than unsweetened coconut milk.*
Coconut milk has healthy fatty acids that are not found in dairy milk. Fifty percent of the fatty acids in coconut milk is lauric acid, which turns into monolaurin in your body. **Monolaurin has antiviral, antibacterial and antiprotozoal activity against strains of staphylococcus and listeria, according to a study by Dr. Mary G. Enig entitled, "Coconut: In Support of Good Health in the 21st Century."
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*Also from*www.livestrong.com*:

Almond milk is a common alternative for cow's milk used by vegetarians, vegans and those with lactose intolerance. It is typically espoused to be healthier than other substitutes (for example, soy or rice milk) because it is very nutrient laden with many essential vitamins and minerals and high in mono-saturated fats. However, almonds are expensive and as a result most commercially distributed almond milks have a very low percentage of actual almonds in them, and they are supplemented with synthetic vitamins.

VITAMINS AND MINERALS
Almonds are extremely rich in magnesium, potassium and copper. They are also very high in vitamin E, selenium and calcium, which are anti-oxidants and may reduce the risk of various types of cancer. Almond milk made straight from ground almonds and water is very high in all of these vitamins.

CHOLESTEROL, FATS AND PROTEINS
Almond milk is very low in cholesterol when compared to cow's milk, largely due to the fact that while cow's milk is very high in saturated fats, almond milk is made up of mono-saturated and poly-unsaturated fats. As almond milk still has a large amount of proteins, making it an excellent alternative to cow's milk for anyone with a history of heart disease, high blood pressure or bad cholesterol.

GLUTEN AND LACTOSE
One of the advantages of almond milk is that it is entirely gluten and lactose free, so it can accommodate a variety of allergic sensitivities to those substances.

jbug_4 07-18-2012 06:40 AM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
We do soy milk. DD has a sensitivity not an allergy (she has been tested). She was was able to start yogurt at about 2 1/2. Small amounts of baked in milk (cake) at 3. At 4 she was able to get milk in baked goods and more processed cooked goods- pancakes, snack sized amounts of things like cheese its. At almost 5 she still can't have butter (only tiny amounts in pancakes or biscuits), cheese, pudding, cream soups or drink milk.

Our doc recommended soy to us, no other milk was ever mentioned, because it is the closet to cow's milk. She also thought with a family history of food allergies nut milks would not be good. Coconut and hemp milks weren't readily available. So we went with soy. Turned out being a good thing since 1 year after the milk diagnosis she had an severe allergic reaction to an accidental exposure of peanuts. Turns out she is allergic to peanuts (so we avoid all nuts do to cross contam- no almond milk for us) and coconut.

I am glad you got a diagnosis early. I kept being blown off as over protective parent. They kept telling me she had colic and I had to find a way to deal with it- even when she wasn't sitting up at 9 months. We got her diagnosis at 1 when we switched docs. it took her new doc less 5 mins to figure out something was really wrong. By that point she had serious gross motor delays (she wasn't crawling and refused to sit up). She had 2 years of PT and is still behind gross motor. Our PT said she'll never play sports, but otherwise she is good. She is borderline gross motor delay now and we have an open invitation to PT if we want it. However at this point everyone believed she is better benefited by sports classes. I only get worried about them because its the only time its obvious that she is not quite up to everybody else.

ColbyMama 07-18-2012 10:22 AM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
I use both almond and soy milk for myself but I didn't think almond would be a safe option for DD because of the possibility of nut allergies. I hadn't thought of coconut milk, or hemp milk for that matter.

breefawn 07-18-2012 10:31 AM

We are all at least highly sensitive to dairy, so we're big almond/coconut milk (I usually mix them for DS), if we want cheese, we use daiya (makes a great grilled cheese and cheesy sauce), I also LOVE the uncheese cookbook. We use earth balance instead of butter, and it works out well :thumbsup:

breefawn 07-18-2012 10:32 AM

Also...if you're worried about her fat intake, avocados are great, and you can easily make them into a pudding if she won't eat them plain ;)

jbug_4 07-18-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ColbyMama (Post 15418500)
I use both almond and soy milk for myself but I didn't think almond would be a safe option for DD because of the possibility of nut allergies. I hadn't thought of coconut milk, or hemp milk for that matter.

Yeah I'd stay away from the almond if your worried about a nut allergy. Coconut is a fruit and its pretty rare to be allergic to it so its probably a good bet. I have heard good things about hemp milk, but its just not available in any local stores for us. There is also rice milk, but its pretty low in the nutritional value compared to the others.

pgkcb13 07-19-2012 06:37 AM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
We used hemp milk for ODD. Had a good fat content and the necessary vitamins. I have a soy sensitivity and we also have two relatives (SIL and DH's cousin) who's kids had problems with the phyto estrogens from taking in that much soy, so we knew we wouldn't be doing that.

Some people use goat milk, but some people with dairy allergies still react to goats milk and I was more comfortable staying away from animal products.

Our favorite brand of hemp milk is pacific foods. Really good stuff, but it did take a few tries for me to get used to the flavor before I liked it. DD liked it right away (both my girls would drink it by the gallon if I let them!)


A little OT, but re: feeding your LO's vegan... We had been eating a totally vegan diet but ODD wasn't thriving (hadn't grown much over a year period, no height gain, very little weight gain) so now we do very very small amounts of chicken and fish (locally sourced from places I trust) and eggs (same). We're talking 1-2 meals a week with one of those three. She's grown 1.5" and gained about 5lbs in about 4 months. Totally bummed me out, but we try to be as responsible about it as we can. Some people really thrive on a vegan diet, some don't. Just keep an eye on your LO's growth :)
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bluecandi 07-21-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!
 
I buy organic unsweetened coconut milk for my almost 2y/o dd. We DO NOT do cow milk or soy AT ALL. I bf dd til she was 19 months then transitioned to coconut. Still weighing in at 75th%.


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