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3lilbubs 10-01-2012 01:32 PM

*Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Hey girls, so if it's ok I think since we've hit the short/off season for the majority of the mamas here we will do a double month Fall (oct, nov) and then winter (Dec, Jan) chat thread for a while? Then when Feb hits and spring prep picks up we can do monthly again.

AFM.. my phrase for the week is ... the leaves are falling! Our trees are turning yellow and some are dropping leaves already. I can see the leaves blowing across the garage roof as I sit here and type. :) We've dropped temps a lot, thought this week is supposed to be a bit warmer the trees and the animals are telling the tale. The kitties are getting thick coats and the chickens are quite fluffy too! We have lived in this house for 12 years now and I have noticed that when the locust trees turn yellow and hold their leaves into October it will be a heavy snow year. If they all blow away right after they turn dull like last year it will be abnormally warm. So far, it's looking like a wet winter for us which is GOOD!

This week will be my remaining clean up. I have a few tomato plants left over, I clipped them way back and snipped all flowers and small fruits off to get the bigger ones to ripen faster. I have to get the carrots pulled in order to plant the berry canes in their spring location and I need to finish cleanup on the large bed that I plant pumpkins and melons in. I have two silly melons left. We ate the last watermelon last week, and I have a bidwell casaba that is at half slip and another that's about 10" long but hasn't filled out. I also have another watermelon that's about a softball size that I am pretty sure won't make it to full grown so I will sadly have to pull it.

I've gotten a great start on the mulching in the main garden plot though, and I'm really happy about that. The chickens are keeping up their end of the bargain and poopin' like crazy which I've been adding on top.

I also found (check your wal mart!) that wal mart is clearancing the seeds to bring in Christmas stuff so I got a lot of what I had on my needs list for next year for 50-98 cents a package! I got most of my herbs, some lettuces and I even saw some cover crop packs there that I'm SURE they didn't have put out before. They had tons, all in a big box.

3lilbubs 10-01-2012 04:32 PM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Ok, I realize I have written a book in both threads but :blush: I have another question... does anyone have experience with saving seeds from peppers and the resulting plants? I keep getting opposite opinions that peppers like bells and jalapeno will cross pollinate. I planted mine all in one spot together so if that's possible then they certainly are. (BOO!) and I can't save my yellow bell and jalapeno seeds like I'd planned.

sarahannecloud9 10-02-2012 05:48 AM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Liz- plant some in a pot for indoors, see if they crossed. I read that they certianly can cross and contaminate the seeds, like bitter mixed mellons from the seeds. I havn't had it happen, but i planted it all together this year too. :( Hopeing for the best.

AFM- The garden is loaded with a fall crop. The broc is kicking booty, but the greens and root plants an't happy. I honestly don't know if anything will even make it? We got a 37 deg heavy frost a cpl weeks back. Now we're back into the 50's and some low 60's. With what the trees are doing around us, I too forsee a rough winter. Tons of the seeds I planted for indoors have come up nicely. I have a sucpission they are from the composted soil I used and not really the ones I planted, haha! Ow well! I tried to pick the best for indoors though. I also have some transplants doing well in the pots too. Those will be coming in soon. The little squash/zuc? plant is still small, but putting off buds! Er. Thinking about snipping them off so the plant will get larger. Anyone think it would work?

Oh Liz-I like the idea of doing a 2 month thread for fall and then winter. We should all make a list of what seeds we have and what we need. I like lists and the thought of seeing what I have/need typed out. Warning though, I really am a seed hoarder! I have a whole bottom cabinett packed. :blush:

I scoared last month at our $1 store with some simple seeds! .05 cents a pack! Cleared out the buggy! They had catnip starter kits for .30 cents. I got all that was left. I'll also use the mimi-greenhouses for other seeds. I'm trying to save up containers like this. Kinda like pie dished with the clear lid. I found it was the best way for me to get a better germ rate!

sarahannecloud9 10-02-2012 06:32 AM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Oops, I meant 40's and 50's. I think I posted that in the chickie thread too. :( It has actually warmed up quite a bit already to 62 now.

Liadan23 10-02-2012 08:00 AM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
ok, i'm copying this over from the september thread cause i think i posted it at the same time this one was created :) i think it's a good idea to combine some months in the thread now, cause yea, even though some of us will be growing stuff indoors, there just isn't as much to talk about :)

ok so, i just hit the jackpot this weekend (ok well i think so....) i realize a lot of you have chickens and such, so this is probably not a big deal. but, since i haven't had a chance to get a good compost pile going yet, and don't have livestock (never happening, i'm having a hard time convincing dh that a pile of "garbage" in the backyard is actually an awesome thing for our garden...) i've been stuck buying soil amendments like compost from home depot up until now. BUT, it occurred to me this weekend to ask the farmer we buy our milk and eggs from if they ever have any. and she said i could come and take as much as i want for free! yea! they have both fresh manure, and manure that's been composted a couple years. i'm thinking i want the composted manure. i don't know how long it takes, but i'd like it to be ready for my garden in the spring (and maybe add some before i put in my garlic in a couple weeks here). also, i live in the 'burbs. my neighbors would probably not appreciate fresh cow and chicken manure stewing just a few feet from their own backyards

but tell me, when is the best time to do this? should i get a bunch now and work it in and then let it set for the winter? i also plan to put all our leaves and fall garden waste in the garden and then till it in in the spring. or, should i do the leaves/garden waste thing only, and add the manure in the spring? thoughts? i prefer to stay organic, and don't buy chemical fertilizer, but to be honest, i've always just sort of haphazardly thrown some bags of store bought compost on the garden before planting. but i think if i was a little more intentional in my fertilizing, i would have better results. what do you all think?

sarahannecloud9 10-02-2012 08:30 AM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Yay for free poo! Seriously! We have got to get our rumps in gear and go get some big loads! WTG! Yep, get the composted for sure. You deff want to add it to the inactive garden. You can sprinkle it around plants as long as it has had at least 6 months to compost. No worries. I'd persionally weight till after the garden is finished to put the whole load out there. Just incase it's still in the rotting process? I'm kinda leary. We call our plants the babies, lol. Hey, worked to prevent William from killing them! So just toss it all out there this fall/winter. Did I answer right? I get scatterbrained. :)

3lilbubs 10-02-2012 11:50 AM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Oh my gosh, jackpot for sure!! i'd get some of both, composted to throw on the beds right now and fresh to dump in your working compost pile. SO jealous! :mrgreen: LUCKY! My chickens are poopin' maniacs but they can't work up the sheer volume of manure a cow can! Yes, absolutely this would be a boon for your garden.. get as much as they'll give you and pile it on! Have you watched the back to eden film? You would probably find it really interesting, you can google it, they have a website and all. That's what I'm trying next spring. Speaking of which...

Here's BTE garden plot #1, upper garden. I realize you can't see much of anything due to all the BROWN LOL but it's a big 6-8" deep plot of leaves, pine needles, paper, chicken poop and compost. Exciting, I know. :giggle2: Well I'm excited anyway. The mesh and grates are to keep the girls from scratching it all over the place before it beds down a bit.

My german lunchbox tomatoes, what's left. Love these!

Bidwell casaba finally ripe! It was good too!

sarahannecloud9 10-02-2012 12:09 PM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
Lookin wonderfull Liz! So jellous, lol.

sarahannecloud9 10-02-2012 04:16 PM

Re: *Autumn gardening chat * Oct-Nov 2012
These blk paul robusons have given me like 25 hearts now! Seriously. I think God keeps reminding me love is found with busy hands, or somethin! Haha!
Just for fun!
Happy harvest momas!!
Darn Ray pulled one of our wht carrots too early. :( I'm gonna have two little survivor men! Their fav show!
The breast is best tomato!!!
Started bringing them in.

aumismommy 10-02-2012 10:39 PM

We shall see the success stories I have considering this is my first fall garden....

You ladies inspire me. Seriously. I absolutely adore each of you for your postings.

So we got rid of our puppy (thank heavens) who had dug up my garden three times, that makes four plantings of the same crops cause if u remember I sizzled my first round of sprouts.

It's been still high 90's and actually still hit 103 the other day but!!!!...supposed to be into the 80's for the next couple weeks. I've been babying like crazy all my sprouts begging them to handle the heat. I suspected that my first sowing of celery, lettuce, kale and spinach got too hot in that last heat spell so I just re planted today. Hoping that works. I'm supposed to be working off an 11/14 first frost date which with these heat spells doesn't give me much time to get these babies started. On the list for next year - grow light!!! Dh is already on board.

Need some leaves to fall to use for the bulk of my mulch for covering my garlic which will go in next week IF the weather gets cooler. Otherwise ill wait a little longer to plant the garlic and onions.

I really have no clue what I'm doing but have learned a lot from some good books, blogs and two local nurseries that have answered my MANY questions ;) I just use the I'm 8 monts pregnant excuse and that seems to get me a lot of help ;) (I can't believe I just admitted to that!) I really am hugely pregnant...and usually toting along my gorgeously wild 2.5 yo son.

I've planted a bunch in pots, filled my four planter boxes and all the dirt surrounding them so fingers crossed we get some edibles out of it al!

Now if I could just get these mice away from my chicken coop I'd be happy!

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