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allielb 03-05-2008 03:27 PM

Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
EC stands for Elimination Communication and it means just that- communicating with your baby about their elimination needs. This is done through observing your baby for sign that they need to go (squirming, grimacing, farting, etc), offering your baby the potty at appropriate times (upon waking, after eating), cueing your baby to go by a sound (psss) and association (the potty), and intuition.

There are some better explanations:

Aletheia
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EC, also known as Natural Infant Hygiene or Infant Potty Learning, is the practice of seeking to help your baby, from as young as from birth, to eliminate in a place other than his or her pants. A baby's first potty could be a mixing bowl held between mom's knees, a prefold diaper spread out underneath baby, the bathroom sink, or even a teeny little plastic potty. There is no coercion involved, and even parents who work out of the home can make the practice beneficial for all involved. It is not uncommon for EC'd babies to be out of diapers for weeks at a time (developmental milestones often undermine the process a bit) by the time they are 5 or 6 months old.

Intrigued? Does it sound like a bunch of hooey? Rest assured, it's not! Babies all over the world have begun their trek to potty independence early on for ages. Does it work? Yes, plain and simple. Is it developmentally inappropriate for your baby? Heck no. Regardless of what the American Pediatric Association says, babies younger than 18 months can-- and do-- have control over their sphincters.

Pixiepunk:
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FYI, EC is not necessarily about *never* using diapers. most mamas use CD's as back-up for EC, at least some of the time. it's about getting to know your child's cues so that when s/he is about to pee or poop you can offer the potty instead of letting them go in their diaper. you may also start to notice certain times that your baby always goes - like 'x' minutes after they nurse, or right when they wake up, or approximately every 'x' minutes or hours. if you know when your child goes, letting them go in the potty not only allows you to save on diaper laundry, it keeps your child clean and sanitary - no sitting around for a half-hour in a wet or poopy diaper. babies are born knowing when they are about to eliminate, and do not find it comfortable to sit in a soiled diaper. by using diapers full-time and changing on a schedule, you are teaching your child to ignore the discomfort associated with sitting in a wet diaper, and to disassociate the feeling of needing to eliminate with the process of eliminating - making it much harder to then turn around and teach them to relearn what that feels like when it's time to do 'potty training.' most EC'd kids are using the potty regularly/reliably with few or no accidents and without any diapers by the time they're about 12-18 months, and virtually all by the time they're 2. i didn't even start with either of my kids till they were over 6 months of age (DD was 10 months), and they were both still 100% out of diapers before they turned 2. but it's not about potty training, that's just a bonus - it's about teaching your child to communicate about needing to pee and poop from the beginning, instead of teaching them it's OK to soil themselves and then turning around and trying to teach them that it's not.


continuum-family:
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EC, although it is sometimes called infant potty training, is not really a form of training. It is a process best started from birth or soon after, although it can be successfully started later on with modified methods. It involves observing one's baby's signs and signals, providing cue sounds and elimination-place associations, and can be done with or without any diaper use. Infants can communicate the need to eliminate well before they can take themselves independently to the toilet, and EC is the practice of responding to that need whenever possible and assisting the infant to eliminate in an appropriate receptacle until such time that they can go independently. With EC the infant never loses the awareness of their elimination that they have from birth and practices using their muscles early on so they develop continence sooner than non-EC'd babies. EC can be practiced to varying degrees -- part-time, occasional or full-time -- they key is the communication between you and your baby.


duckieheart:
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You know how a newborn will often pee when you take the diaper off? Well, thats because mammals, including humans, are "programmed" to not soil themselves. We teach children to eliminate in diapers, and tell ourselves that babies have no bladder control. That is actually not true (proven by many an ECed baby). With EC, you watch the babies cues, and allow them the opportunity to eliminate in an appropriate place, away from themselves. I think most babies have a poop face, or a specific place they like to poop. Some parents will just wait, and change a dirty diaper. EC would be taking the child to an appropriate place and allowing them to void there (IE, bath tub, sink, toilet, or potty seat).

Feel free to add your own definition :)

sunnymw 03-11-2008 07:48 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
Niiiiice :) Thanks for that!

To us, EC is a way of keeping in touch, keeping clean. I find that I 'miss' the most when I'm distracted with something--housework, the Internet, etc--and it's a nice reminder to take a step back from everything and be more in the moment... because I can spend the moment catching a pee, or I can spend it cleaning up a diaper/carpet mess. To me it's all about remembering what's most important and where my priorities are. Yes, there are times when DS is in a diaper because I NEED to get things done, but I find that we are both happier when I let him run naked and just connect with him.

sloutre 03-12-2008 03:11 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
When people ask me about EC, I direct them to the tribalBaby web site (http://www.tribalbaby.org/ECindex.html). I love the simplicity of the explanation. It shows how easy and natural it can be.

From Tribal baby:
In a nutshell, Elimination Communication is about the Communication.

It is about helping your baby to go 'to the toilet' somewhere other than a nappy, some of the time, then more of the time as they grow!

SemperFiMama3 04-01-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
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Originally Posted by sunnymw (Post 3016084)
Niiiiice :) Thanks for that!

To us, EC is a way of keeping in touch, keeping clean. I find that I 'miss' the most when I'm distracted with something--housework, the Internet, etc--and it's a nice reminder to take a step back from everything and be more in the moment... because I can spend the moment catching a pee, or I can spend it cleaning up a diaper/carpet mess. To me it's all about remembering what's most important and where my priorities are. Yes, there are times when DS is in a diaper because I NEED to get things done, but I find that we are both happier when I let him run naked and just connect with him.

Thank you so much for this post !! I am totaly new to EC, and have only been CDing dd2 for 2 months now, but I showed this post to DH and he FINALY!!!! said , Yeah thats a good idea!!
:goodvibes: :hugs:

atomicfrock 05-15-2008 07:50 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
I EC'd my first child (boy) from 8 months old (we were considered "late-starters"). We had immediate successes but encountered the expected challenges of trying to UN-train a baby that had been diapered-trained for 8 months.

I EC'd my second baby from BIRTH and I HIGHLY recommend trying to catch those very first pees/poops (meconium). Do not be intimidated. You are responding to your baby's instinct to eliminate away from where they lie and reinforcing their natural desire to stay dry and clean. Every day you and your baby will learn more about each other's timing, needs and signals (as long as you are consistant). By 1 to 2 months old we are able to catch 100% of our daughter's poops/pees (IF, I'm attentive, that is). It's hard to be THAT attentive but she is willing if I am able! Making a cue sound has become mostly unneccesary. It's just expected of me (to take her diaper off to "go").

Good Luck to ALL!!

momahen07 11-05-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
thanks this was very helpful

aemerie 11-19-2008 04:44 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
yes, thanks this was super helpful.

PsyckoPrincess 12-29-2008 01:18 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
This is not what I thought it was :) My LO is just over 6 mo, but I think I want to try this (when at home of course!) I don't know what DH will think (just another nutty idea mommy has maybe) but I think this is a [I]fabulous[I] idea! What a way to bond with your child - learn better communication AND help keep messes to a minimum! Thanks for the info everyone!

EmilyLTD 12-29-2008 02:49 PM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
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Originally Posted by PsyckoPrincess (Post 5853354)
I don't know what DH will think (just another nutty idea mommy has maybe) but I think this is a [I]fabulous[I] idea!

We started at 6 1/2 months and this was what my DH thought until he saw that it works! Now I have to stop him from braging to everyone that DD is "trained"! :giggle2:

hadfield531 03-13-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Defining EC for people who haven't heard of it.
 
Wow. My third baby is 14 months old, and I'm only just now hearing about this????? Sheesh!!! It's quite a concept, and I look forward to learning more about it!


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