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ClothDiaperingMama 06-01-2008 11:50 AM

HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
I am wondering if there are any other mamas on here that are trying to Breastfeed, but have health issues since pregnancy/birth? I was induced for mild PreEclampsia and large baby for Gestational Diabetes. {He was actually
A LOT larger than the u/s said he would be. He was 37 weeks 1 day gestation and weighted 9lbs. 5.8 ozs}. I was mostly induced for the fear of a large baby.. which turned out to be larger than anyone had imagined.

The 'cure' to PreEclampsia and Gestational Diabetes is delivery of the baby. DS is now 3 weeks old. I haven't had any issues with the GD, but the PreEclampsia turned into Eclampsia and I have been in and out of the hospital since Egan's birth. They also think I may have had a small stroke.

I WAS making 2 ozs of bm on one breast, but since have almost lost most of my milk supply. It now barely covers the bottom of the bottle{of the pump}. My blood pressure has been 182/126, 172/126, etc. I left the ER two days ago with blood pressure of 172/118. I am "stressed" and if someone else tells me NOT to be stressed... I just don't know what I will do!!:banghead: How can you NOT be stressed when you are so sick and the 'cure' 'supposedly' happened 3 weeks ago, but you are getting worse?:headscratch: On top of that, how can I BF let alone EBF when my milk supply just won't go or stay up?

I pump and have to feed it to him before we give the formula. {As I mentioned in the first post after Egan's birth on my problems with bfing was that the LC at the hospital actually had the ped put ds on formula as my supply wasn't in at all}. I understand that, but don't understand WHY they didn't do a SUPPLEMENTAL NURSING SYSTEM so that he was getting the formula, but also at the breast to stimulate my milk? {They put him on the formula because he had severe low blood sugar at birth and needed to get it up. He was away from me for 12 hours as it apparently took that long to get it stablilized}. They were supposed to use a syringe to give him formula but he ended up on a bottle the second feeding}.:banghead:

I have also not had any success with getting him latched on to the breast since leaving the hospital 3 weeks ago. Even there he didn't do it for more than a minute at most before he was screaming bloody murder. We tried a nipple shield too. We had decided that if I got my milk supply up then he wouldn't be so frustrated and would latch on.
I haven't even tried in the last two weeks since I have had such horrible health issues and seem to always be at the ER or hospital. I just pump and we give him the breastmilk in a bottle. My DH tries to be so supportive that I am giving him BM and that even though 'right now' he isn't latching on .. that he will. He keeps saying that atleast I am giving him 'some' breastmilk, but it is definitely a TINY amount compared to the formula that he gets.

I guess I am wondering.. will he really EVER latch on? Will I ever be able to make enough milk to even get him to want to latch on? I know that he was born 3/4 weeks early, but what about giving him all of these bottles for EVERY feeding? I have been too sick and tired.. usually in the hospital/ER to call or meet up with a LLL or anyone else. We are also in another state looking for a house... so I am extra stressed. Is this just a hopeless situation? Am I the ONLY one who is or has gone through this? Am I just never going to be able to bf my baby? This is our last baby as my health just can't handle ever having more, so this is basically my LAST chance to ever bf my babies!:cry: :cry:
I am just so upset, frustrated, and depressed! Why can't I be a 'real woman" and have great births and breastfeed my own babies?:blush: :cry: Why is it so easy for others and so difficult/impossible for me?
{Okay..enough pity myself. I truly am just so sad right now}.

Thanks for listening! :hugs: I am not sure if I want someone to post who knows what I am going through as it is so frustrating and depressing and I wouldn't wish this on anyone. If you made it this far.. thanks for reading! ANY help/advice would be greatly appreciated!
Also does anyone know a great LLL or LC in/around Raleigh, NC?

mommyofnoah 06-01-2008 12:05 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
first mama :hugs: You are going through a lot right now. My first DS was born with an intestinal issue that didn't allow him to have any food orally...only TPN through his chest for the first 6 weeks. after that he had to be fed BM by bottle through two more surgeries. He was 3 months old by the time we brought him home and had only had BM from a bottle. They added some formula when he was in the hospital because of weight issues. I didn't really have any breastfeeding support and even though he prob. would have eventually learned to breastfeed at least some, I was VERY overwhelmed, and gave up. I had cracked nipples from 3 months of pumping and when he came home he had thrush which he gave me. I made the mistake of seeing it as an all or nothing situation instead of just giving it time. I regretted giving up and still do (he is a healthy 3 year old now). I stopped pumping and as of 4 months old, he was on just formula. I cried the day I ran out of BM in the freezer. I was mad at the situation, mad that I couldn't pump enough to feed him all BM, mad that what came so easy to others didn't happen for me. This time with ds2 I vowed that I would do whatever I needed to do to keep breastfeeding, even if it meant that it wouldn't be the conventional path. I mean everything. I was determined to nurse him whenever he wanted to eat, pump, give bottles and if it came down to it, keep trying and trying even if I had to give some formula too. I wish with DS one I would have pumped when I could, continued to try to get him to breastfeed and eventually phased out the formula. Even if I couldn't have made enough for a whole meal, at least some would have been better than none. So I feel where you are emotionally and I want to reassure you that breastfeeding isn't an all or nothing sort of thing for everyone. It doesn't always work out the way we plan, but don't give up. like your husband says, the little bit you are giving your lo is better than nothing....:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:if you are wanting to keep up your supply, try the mothers milk tea and oatmeal...lots of good threads in this forum on that! don't give up mama...you aren't alone! For me: the regret of not trying everything before giving up was the worst.

CrunchyMama0607 06-01-2008 12:11 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
I don't know what to tell you but I wanted to give you big big hugs :hugs: I'm sorry things happened the way they did but no matter what happens, your a wonderful mama :hugs: Praying things get easier/better for you.

Irishmommy 06-01-2008 12:54 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
Mamma, big old hugs to you. :hugs:

I had high blood pressure too when I got home from the hospital and I never even had it when I was preggo. I think my ds was about 3-4 weeks before mine went down, but there are meds. you can take while breastfeeding. I was afraid that I would have to quit if I ended up needing meds, but my LC said there are some safe ones.

After bfeeding my last two pretty successfully, I didn't anticipate having any problems at all. Well, this little boy has been pretty difficult. We have JUST NOW at almost 4 months gotten into a routine. He had a tongue tie, bad latch (pretty much still has this), among other problems. He is getting better day by day though.

I agree with the other mamma, it isn't an all or nothing thing. Whatever bmilk you are able to give him is good. I'd also say get yourself a sns. I don't know why the hospital didn't give you that to begin with (mine has tried to give me one two different times when I DIDN'T need it), but I'd say this is a way to try to get him to the breast if he isn't latching on right now. Also, GET YOURSELF TO A LLL meeting. The ladies at LLL are SOOOOO knowledgeable. One of them has probably used a SNS before and can help you with it as well as support you through the process. I'm not sure what type of pump you have, but I'd look into getting a hospital grade pump and make sure the horn things (gosh I really need to know what those things are called) are the right size for you. It can make a world of difference in how much you are able to pump. I know Medela and Ameda sell different sizes of them.

Goodluck to you mamma, we are here to support you!:hugs:

Irishmommy 06-01-2008 12:59 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
I would also say call your hospital and tell them THEY OWE IT TO YOU, to help you find some help and support. Also, if you can't afford it, see if your OB or your ds' pediatrician will give you a script for the SNS. That way your insurance might cover it or part of it.

IT WILL GET BETTER MAMMA! I'm sorry you are having a hard time right now. I think I felt the same way you are feeling about it not being easy. Keep at it, it will get easier. PM me any time if you want to talk.:hugs:

mommyofnoah 06-01-2008 01:35 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
yes, get a hospital grade pump and save yourself the:cry: of a lesser pump. another of my regrets. i thought the most my body could ever make was 3 ounces per 3 hours...turns out that it was the pump.

ClothDiaperingMama 06-01-2008 04:36 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mommyofnoah (Post 3735728)
first mama :hugs: You are going through a lot right now. My first DS was born with an intestinal issue that didn't allow him to have any food orally...only TPN through his chest for the first 6 weeks. after that he had to be fed BM by bottle through two more surgeries. He was 3 months old by the time we brought him home and had only had BM from a bottle. They added some formula when he was in the hospital because of weight issues. I didn't really have any breastfeeding support and even though he prob. would have eventually learned to breastfeed at least some, I was VERY overwhelmed, and gave up. I had cracked nipples from 3 months of pumping and when he came home he had thrush which he gave me. I made the mistake of seeing it as an all or nothing situation instead of just giving it time. I regretted giving up and still do (he is a healthy 3 year old now). I stopped pumping and as of 4 months old, he was on just formula. I cried the day I ran out of BM in the freezer. I was mad at the situation, mad that I couldn't pump enough to feed him all BM, mad that what came so easy to others didn't happen for me. This time with ds2 I vowed that I would do whatever I needed to do to keep breastfeeding, even if it meant that it wouldn't be the conventional path. I mean everything. I was determined to nurse him whenever he wanted to eat, pump, give bottles and if it came down to it, keep trying and trying even if I had to give some formula too. I wish with DS one I would have pumped when I could, continued to try to get him to breastfeed and eventually phased out the formula. Even if I couldn't have made enough for a whole meal, at least some would have been better than none. So I feel where you are emotionally and I want to reassure you that breastfeeding isn't an all or nothing sort of thing for everyone. It doesn't always work out the way we plan, but don't give up. like your husband says, the little bit you are giving your lo is better than nothing....:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:if you are wanting to keep up your supply, try the mothers milk tea and oatmeal...lots of good threads in this forum on that! don't give up mama...you aren't alone! For me: the regret of not trying everything before giving up was the worst.

Thanks Karen for responding!:hugs: I am so sorry that you went through that with your first ds!:hugs: I try to keep positive, but it is hard since every day seems to add extra resistance to bfing. I am now on a high blood pressure medicine and another one that isn't recommending for bfing infants under one month!:banghead: {I told them I was 'breastfeeding" and that ds was only 3 weeks old}. Anyway.. I don't want to give up! I want to keep going and I REALLY need some positive support because on most days I just think.. 'why bother"? Then it kills me to let the pump sit on the table and not even pump. {I am currently having to do a pump & dump because of the second medicine I had to start today.:cry: }. I do have a hospital grade medela Symphony pump that I am renting from the hospital.
DH is so sweet and he makes it seem like this is just temporary and that pretty soon my health will be back and then I can really concentrate on bfing Egan like I want. He loves Mommy's milk, but is starting to have some issues with the formula. {I guess it is because he is now getting NO bm from me since starting the medicine}.

Thanks for sharing your experience, your regrets, and some suggestions and encouragement!:bighug: I really appreciate it as I feel so sad and helpless with this. I am embarrassed to say that I don't even know another bfing mama.:blush: I hope my health improves so I can atleast find a LLL group.

ClothDiaperingMama 06-01-2008 04:38 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrunchyMama0607 (Post 3735765)
I don't know what to tell you but I wanted to give you big big hugs :hugs: I'm sorry things happened the way they did but no matter what happens, your a wonderful mama :hugs: Praying things get easier/better for you.

Thanks mama!:blush: :hugs:

ClothDiaperingMama 06-01-2008 04:54 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishmommy (Post 3736101)
Mamma, big old hugs to you. :hugs:

I had high blood pressure too when I got home from the hospital and I never even had it when I was preggo. I think my ds was about 3-4 weeks before mine went down, but there are meds. you can take while breastfeeding. I was afraid that I would have to quit if I ended up needing meds, but my LC said there are some safe ones.

After bfeeding my last two pretty successfully, I didn't anticipate having any problems at all. Well, this little boy has been pretty difficult. We have JUST NOW at almost 4 months gotten into a routine. He had a tongue tie, bad latch (pretty much still has this), among other problems. He is getting better day by day though.

I agree with the other mamma, it isn't an all or nothing thing. Whatever bmilk you are able to give him is good. I'd also say get yourself a sns. I don't know why the hospital didn't give you that to begin with (mine has tried to give me one two different times when I DIDN'T need it), but I'd say this is a way to try to get him to the breast if he isn't latching on right now. Also, GET YOURSELF TO A LLL meeting. The ladies at LLL are SOOOOO knowledgeable. One of them has probably used a SNS before and can help you with it as well as support you through the process. I'm not sure what type of pump you have, but I'd look into getting a hospital grade pump and make sure the horn things (gosh I really need to know what those things are called) are the right size for you. It can make a world of difference in how much you are able to pump. I know Medela and Ameda sell different sizes of them.

Goodluck to you mamma, we are here to support you!:hugs:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishmommy (Post 3736129)
I would also say call your hospital and tell them THEY OWE IT TO YOU, to help you find some help and support. Also, if you can't afford it, see if your OB or your ds' pediatrician will give you a script for the SNS. That way your insurance might cover it or part of it.

IT WILL GET BETTER MAMMA! I'm sorry you are having a hard time right now. I think I felt the same way you are feeling about it not being easy. Keep at it, it will get easier. PM me any time if you want to talk.:hugs:


Thanks Shannon!:hugs: I started off thinking it wasn't an 'all or nothing' thing either, but then reading some of the posts on here with the bfing support... I wondered if I was just fooling myself. I am so glad that you ladies keep everyone grounded. I know that I am not the only mama who would love to bf exactly like we hear that everyone else does, but it just isn't happening. My DH is so glad that I haven't given up and just keep pumping. {He knows how important bfing is to both of us and how sad we would be if we just gave up}. I am thinking of getting the SNS immediately, but since I am out of state.. not sure where to get it or how to use it. We will be here until next week so I am hoping that my health continues to stay atleast the same, not get worse, and maybe I can attend a LLL meeting here.:headscratch: DH said he would take me, but I wonder how they feel about having a man/daddy there?
The blood pressure medicine I am on is "OK" for bfing even though it gets in the bm. {I was concerned with that}. The other medicine for the UTI isn't approved for nursing infants under one month old though. I have no idea why they didn't give me one that was. I told them I was bfing, asked if it was safe for bfing, and was told yes. They gave me one at the hospital and then the pharmacy told me that about bfing infants under one month. So to be safe.. I am not giving the bm to Egan until I finish it. I was going to call my ob at home to see what she said, but since I am in another state {7 hours away} I figured that she would say just do what the ER doctor said to do here. I still may call tomorrow when it isn't the weekend and ask her if it is okay or if she will get me another medication called in down here to a pharmacy.

Thanks for sharing your experience!:goodvibes: I hope things continue to go good for you and Aiden with bfing!:hugs:

odentonmom 06-01-2008 04:58 PM

Re: HELP!!!ANYONE here trying to BF and have health issues since pregnancy/birth?
 
:hugs: :hugs: :hugs: First, I wanted to say, don't give up. I have had lots of problems with breastfeeding, low milk supply being a constant. I gave upi BFing my eldest son in the first week because of a similar situation. I was forced to supplement because of his size (9 lb 6 oz) and they said that his blood sugar would drop if we didn't. They also told me that he would still BF if he had a bottle. Uh, no.

With my 2nd baby, I stuck with it for 2 1/2 months and gave up due to very persistent thrush and supply issues. I thought of BFing as an all or nothing deal and looking back I am sad that I didn't try to keep at it as long as my son would BF, even if he ended up getting a lot of formula. There is so much value in every drop of BM and in the simple act of BFing.

With my 3rd baby, I struggled with supply and thrush again. I did a lot of supplementing at the breast and pumping to increase supply. I made it to 9 months BFing her.

With my youngest son, I felt like it was probably my last chance to BF, so I really did a lot of research and planning. I was committed to making it to 1 year. Then, I was thrown a curve ball when on the second day of life it was clear that there was something wrong. He went to the NICU and I ended up having to exclusively pump because he was NPO. He went on to have surgery and spend almost 5 weeks in the nursery, where he was not allowed to BF at all. So, I had to EP and give him my milk in bottles.

When I brought him home, he was hesitant to nurse. I was determined to get him back to the breast. With the disease he has it was super important to me to BF him. He had to have part of his colon removed and he needed BM since that was easier to digest and a natural laxative. I also wanted him to have the natural immunities because of all his exposure to illness with his frequent hospital and doctor visits. So, when I brought him home, I cut out all bottles and supplemented him at the breast. Once I did that he came around and nursed.

I took galactagogues, pumped to build my supply and I managed to exclusively BF him until 1 year. He still nurses a little now, at 26 months old. I found really good support and resources online and at LLL.

I would also recommend getting your thyroid checked. Some mamas have problems with their thyroid function postpartum. Also, find out what your number is and verify that with a knowledgeable LC. Many doctors do not realize that the thyroid numbers for a lactating woman are different that regular. So, if they just tell you your numbers are good, make sure they are comparing them to the correct standards.

PM me if you ever need support or want to know about some of the things that worked for me.


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