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Old 07-01-2012, 10:39 AM   #382
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Originally Posted by RainandRedemption

Not responding to just this post, but this mentality altogether that I'm seeing in this thread. Wish I had time to completely catch up........

But as much as anyone believes in the benefits of science as how it's taught now, vaccines, herd immunity, whatever, I think it's important to remember that we are NOT going to build some disease free utopian community on this earth. Wouldn't it be nice? But it's not going to happen. Death and disease will never be irradicated from the world we live in. Anyone who is paralyzed by fear of unvaccinated population is spending too much time thinking about the dangers there. There are dangers in everything we do, it's part of life.

Personally I think it's far more important to keep our ability to make our own choices than to throw that out in the hopes that herb immunity is real, that vaccines are safe and do the job they claim, and that it will actually have some significant effect on the death rate in the long run. I agree with other posters who have said that a country who forced vaccines on it's population would be a pretty terrifying one. Death and disease are natural facts of life and I'd rather live in a world where we're allowed to take our chances with nature than one where the science community and govt forces it's theories into our bodies. Essentially I do believe forced vaccines would just be one grand experiment on the population. And essentially I think anyone who argues the "anyone who is healthy enough for vaccines should be vaccinated" is saying there should be no exemption other than medical. In discussiong and theory it's fine, but to suggest it be practiced is very, very dangerous IMO.
The government has a obligation to keep it's people under control and take measures to keep them healthy. Not "don't buy Mc Donalds or eat after 9pm" healthy, but keeping communicable diseases under control. this is the main reason we have public health depts.
It's not that I want everyone to vaccinate because for as long as I can remember, there's always been 1-2 kids I've known in school who couldn't get fully vaccinated or vaccinated because of a (documented) medical condition.
I see the anti vax community using freedom of choice as the rational more than anything else. This is childish to me.
Maybe if diphtheria made a come back thoughts would shift. I'm sure it's only a matter of a decade before we start seeing it again seeing that the anti vax community is growing.
That being said...

I think it's only a matter of time before a certain set of vaccinations are standardized in our country. A epidemic is the governments problem, we feel and live it, but they are in charge of it. It's only a matter of time before they take precautions. Our government is run by conservatives who take the medical community into account. Like seat belts, vaccinations will not keep everyone safe, may harm some, but will do what they were designed to do for MOST of the population. The rest we cannot control, you are right.
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