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Old 02-06-2013, 02:06 PM   #1
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Cheap combination alternative to Radian

Just picked this up at walmart. I don't actually have a Radian to compare them side by side, but the width of the base is only 17" and the back is only 17.5" at the widest point. It's incredibly thin and goes up to 65 lb and 57" in harness mode!

Here's some stuff I found on the car-seat forums:
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=237986
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=237051
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=238353

DD 4 (45" 45 lb) was comfortable in the seat and it looks like it will last her a good long while. I don't think we'll use it as a booster, but pass it on when Itsy outgrows her convertible. I can actually see two of these sitting side by side in a narrow vehicle.

This is a HWH/combination, not a convertible as advertised, it does not RF.

This is a great seat and a great deal for those of us on a really tight budget. I'm incredibly relieved to have found it because the Radian (which I thought was our only option for Ladybug in a 3 in a row config) would have put a huge dent in our budget.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:41 PM   #2
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I got to play with one at my WalMart yesterday! I was all set to get a Frontier 85, but this just might make me save $120. I have an issue with the short crotch strap, so I am holding off for now, but maybe soon...
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:25 PM   #3
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:15 PM   #4
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Re: Cheap combination alternative to Radian

I saw it today. My mom and I compared it to the Nautilus side by side. It seemed cheaply made in comparison. Nothing safety based but things like the cup holder and arm rests were not nearly as seat ell made as the Nautilus. At our Walmart it was $99 vs the Nautilus at $129. However, I did not compare the size of the seat because we only have 2 kids per row so that could be a huge issue for someone else. A nice cup holder isn't going to help if you can't fit the seats in the car!
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Re: Cheap combination alternative to Radian

I was really hopeful about this seat, i wanted something low profile, narrow and easy to switch between kids to keep in DH's car but the crotch strap is SO short. I'm hoping they'll release a new, longer strap in which case I'd buy one right away.
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I was really hopeful about this seat, i wanted something low profile, narrow and easy to switch between kids to keep in DH's car but the crotch strap is SO short. I'm hoping they'll release a new, longer strap in which case I'd buy one right away.
Go to http://www.harmonyjuvenile.com and click the "contact us" link and tell them that. I did. I would buy the Defender tomorrow, but I'm afraid the short strap would be a problem soon, if it's not already. I otherwise love the seat.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:33 PM   #7
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Went and commented - we're going to need two new seats for DD next year as she's currently 34lbs and two of our three GN will be expiring (who would have thought, when purchasing carseats with 6 year xp dates, they still wouldn't last through 2 kids... oh wait, that's because she's a peanut at almost 5)
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:51 AM   #8
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Here's the response I got from Harmony about the crotch buckle length:
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The crotch buckle and harness system was designed entirely from a safety point of view: In a crash, a child moves downwards and outwards whereby the buckle/clips move upwards and inwards. The most proper place to have the buckle/clips positions is directly on the pelvic bone as that is the strongest point on any child to absorb the ‘load’/energy in a crash. If the buckle rides too high (and gets pressed inwards as a child moves outwards) – we risk damaging some soft tissue in or around the belly.



So, the Defender was designed to keep that buckle perfectly placed for the safety of your child.



However, we are actively exploring whether we can increase the crotch strap length. Right now we are preparing to undergo some testing and I won’t know if it is possible for at least another month. If we are able to increase it, we will certainly send you one immediately!!



Finally, please be aware that while it might appear tight/inconvenient – it is actually designed to keep the buckle exactly where it needs to be to prevent injury in a crash. The units was tested with children above 65lbs and all fit well with no complaints (meaning, while the clips were touching their thighs…they weren’t digging in causing any discomfort). And please remember, the fit actually comes from the ‘webbing’ and not from the buckle/clips. Even if the clips remain low (where they are supposed to be), the webbing has enough slack to accommodate a growing child.
BTW, my 4 year old fits very well with plenty of space to grow at 45" and 45 lb.

The height of the highest harness is only 1" lower than that on the Frontier, a significant enough difference for some but may not make too much of a difference for others. If money and space was no consideration, I'd go with a Frontier because it does seem like it is more comfortable/luxurious, but this is certainly a great buy for folks like us with low budgets and no space!
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If only my Walmart had one on display! They have their new booster on display, but not the Defender 360.
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