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Old 04-30-2013, 09:15 AM   #1
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I though we were doing great, but over the last three months my LO keeps dropping weight percentiles. She was up to the 75th, then the 62nd and now the 50th.

We had our struggles early on...she was born three weeks early in only the 11th percentile and had a poor latch, food allergies, reflux and thrush. I've been telling our Ped that I'm concerned that she won't eat for months now, but they keep brushing me off chalking it up to illness. But why does the baby keep getting sick? I just don't like it and I'm scared. Now they act like if she doesn't gain well in the next month then I'll need to supplement. I just feel so upset and annoyed at the same time. I told them something was wrong and they ignored me until they decided its a problem.

They told me yesterday it's because she's teething. About a month ago she stopped sleeping through the night and got really constipated. They had me discontinue her Prilosec and start miralax. I did that for two weeks, but I finally put my foot down and put her back on the Prilosec because she was miserable and vomiting. I have cut back the miralax because she's been having diarrhea.

I called the lactation consultant at the Ped today but she won't be in until later. She also knows nothing about how PCOS and hypothyroidism effect breastfeeding though. I just started taking fenugreek again and it seems to be helping. The baby totally drenches diapers though I'm not sure if its a quantity issue as quality. How can I increase the fat content of my milk? We're also milk and soy free so my diet is somewhat limited, but I've hardly lost a pound lately so I think I'm eating enough.

Just frustrated. Thanks for your help ladies.

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Old 04-30-2013, 09:26 AM   #2
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Have you met w a lactation consultant?

Both DS and DD jumped percentiles both up and down. Breasted babies tend to do that.
Is your LO losing weight or just taking her time gaining?
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Have you met w a lactation consultant?

Both DS and DD jumped percentiles both up and down. Breasted babies tend to do that.
Is your LO losing weight or just taking her time gaining?
Not losing weight, just hardly gaining. Only 4oz this month. I'm hoping now that she's back on the Prilosec she'll start gaining again. I also forgot to mention that she's 8 months and eats about 2-3 oz of solids a day and 2-3 oz of diluted juice.
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Make sure you nurse long enough on each side. I had the tendency to switch to early
Sometimes it helps to pump for a few minutes, get to the thick stuff before nursing
Sometimes they fill up on the thin and have more reflux issues w that before even getting to the thick.

Did you try probiotics yet?
I would pump a bottle, throw in some baby probiotics and feed it to my DS. He was always my problem nurser. Finally started to gain weight after that

Also, prilisec prevents the stomach from making acid. If you take her off quickly you get a rebound effect, reflux gets worse.

I've shed many a tear over nursing.
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Make sure you nurse long enough on each side. I had the tendency to switch to early
Sometimes it helps to pump for a few minutes, get to the thick stuff before nursing
Sometimes they fill up on the thin and have more reflux issues w that before even getting to the thick.

Did you try probiotics yet?
I would pump a bottle, throw in some baby probiotics and feed it to my DS. He was always my problem nurser. Finally started to gain weight after that

Also, prilisec prevents the stomach from making acid. If you take her off quickly you get a rebound effect, reflux gets worse.

I've shed many a tear over nursing.
I have some children's culturel would that work?

I think basically this last month going off the Prilosec was a huge problem. The doctor said it was causing her constipation but after two weeks off it and no change in bowel habits I put her back on it and she's starting to sleep again. Poor baby. I used to be very happy with our Ped, but lately I've been seeing multiple doctors or nurse practitioners and everyone seems to have their own opinion.
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Re: Low weight gain:(

Add coconut oil and coconut milk to your diet. It is a concentrated source of calories and quality saturated fats. You can even get coconut milk ice cream and yogurt and it tastes pretty good. Get refined coconut oil and cook in it and add it to everything you can. While there is some debate about how much the mother's diet affects the quality of her milk, it is pretty universally agreed that the fat content is pretty quickly and directly affected.

Edit: You could also add coconut oil to your LO's food. From what my ped said, it's not unusual for babies to drop percentiles around this age. The combination of them being more mobile, the developmental explosion, and starting to eat solids (which are often more filling and less calorie dense than breastmilk) make for slower weight gain. If your ped starts to push supplementing, I'd get a 2nd opinion before doing that. Also, make sure they're using the WHO growth charts.

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Add coconut oil and coconut milk to your diet. It is a concentrated source of calories and quality saturated fats. You can even get coconut milk ice cream and yogurt and it tastes pretty good. Get refined coconut oil and cook in it and add it to everything you can. While there is some debate about how much the mother's diet affects the quality of her milk, it is pretty universally agreed that the fat content is pretty quickly and directly affected.

Edit: You could also add coconut oil to your LO's food. From what my ped said, it's not unusual for babies to drop percentiles around this age. The combination of them being more mobile, the developmental explosion, and starting to eat solids (which are often more filling and less calorie dense than breastmilk) make for slower weight gain. If your ped starts to push supplementing, I'd get a 2nd opinion before doing that. Also, make sure they're using the WHO growth charts.
Do you know of any coconut ice cream that is soy free? Maybe I could make my own some how. I have virgin unrefined coconut oil. Would that be okay? I wanted to make some energy bars like the Lara coconut cream pie.

I was also thinking I could eat half an avocado. I just started beef again so maybe that will help. It doesn't seem to bother her anymore.
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Do you know of any coconut ice cream that is soy free? Maybe I could make my own some how. I have virgin unrefined coconut oil. Would that be okay? I wanted to make some energy bars like the Lara coconut cream pie.

I was also thinking I could eat half an avocado. I just started beef again so maybe that will help. It doesn't seem to bother her anymore.
I just looked at the So Delicious website and even their chocolate flavors are soy free for their coconut milk ice cream. I know there are other brands, but that's the one I've seen the most and is usually in mainstream grocery stores as well as health food stores. A friend of mine says the chocolate peanut butter flavor is the best. The virgin unrefined will work fine. It can give a more obvious coconut flavor if you cook with it, where the refined won't. If you don't mind the coconut flavor, then go for it.

As far as your nursing goals, even if you choose to supplement with formula, it doesn't have to be forever, and it doesn't mean you have to stop nursing altogether.
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I just looked at the So Delicious website and even their chocolate flavors are soy free for their coconut milk ice cream. I know there are other brands, but that's the one I've seen the most and is usually in mainstream grocery stores as well as health food stores. A friend of mine says the chocolate peanut butter flavor is the best. The virgin unrefined will work fine. It can give a more obvious coconut flavor if you cook with it, where the refined won't. If you don't mind the coconut flavor, then go for it.

As far as your nursing goals, even if you choose to supplement with formula, it doesn't have to be forever, and it doesn't mean you have to stop nursing altogether.
I'll have to look at the store again. All the coconut ice cream I've seen has soy lectin in it, but I'll look for that one.

I gave her two ounces of BM from the freezer tonight before bed and now I have to pump. I have a small freezer stash to use until I can get my supply up.

Does more milk plus work better than fenugreek pills? I'm drinking the tea too. I'm starting to smell like syrup so I hope it starts working soon.
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I'll have to look at the store again. All the coconut ice cream I've seen has soy lectin in it, but I'll look for that one.

I gave her two ounces of BM from the freezer tonight before bed and now I have to pump. I have a small freezer stash to use until I can get my supply up.

Does more milk plus work better than fenugreek pills? I'm drinking the tea too. I'm starting to smell like syrup so I hope it starts working soon.
My understanding of herbs is that tinctures are more potent/effective than capsules. The More Milk Plus also has more than just fenugreek, so that may make a difference. I can't speak from experience though as I've never used either of them.

So Delocious does make soy ice cream as well and has the word So in big capitals and it can look like the word soy at first glance. Or you can check their website and see if any stores near you carry their products. Their website is sodeliciousdairyfree.com.
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