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Old 09-24-2007, 06:34 AM   #1
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For mamas who had vaginal delivery?

I have a question for mamas who have had vaginal delivery or to any midwives or doulas.
A little background first. I have given birth to 3 BIG healthy boys all naturally. Well 2 were 100% natural and the 1 in the middle was induced with petocin. I never recieved pain meds with any of them. I also refused IV's but said ok to monitors(they didn't give me much choice).
So this question is about my youngest one wieghing in at 10lbs 12 oz after 1 hour and 41 minutes of labor starting from my first contraction. After the the baby was out and I had delivered the placenta the docter was trying to see if I needed any stitches. She said she had to stop the bleeding first so she could see better. So here is the wierd part(wierd to me). She took her whole arm and shoved it all the way up inside me to her elbow and started scooping out blood. She did this about 6 times or so. I know a baby can come out but I never thought a persons whole arm could fit all the way up me so I was bit freaked. So was my friend who was with me. Now remeber I was on NO pain meds of any sort. Honestly there wasn't time if I had wanted them.
Now you know my mini birth story of my youngest. Has this ever happened to any of you mamas? Any midwives or Doulas here done or seen this done? It seems odd and I've never heard of such a thing so wanted to cash in on eveyone elses experience
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:50 AM   #2
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I had that done with my first child. Evidently the placenta did not come out fully intact and the dr. wanted to make sure that ALL of it was out (which i'm extremely happy about). And yes, dr. had arm ALL the way up passed the elbow. It was somewhat disconcerting to watch but very effective. Had no negative side affects, all placenta was removed, and things returned to normal on a regular timetable.
It was actually a blessing, because it kept me more focused on that and not on the fact that Dr's were frantically trying to get my new ds to breath on the crash cart in the corner of the room. That sounds odd too, but I would have freaked out even more had I known all that was happening. DH was aware of both things and also happy that I was distracted and not freaking out. Thankfully, we had amazing Dr's and within minutes my boy was fine (I still didn't get to see him for SEVERAL HOURS and I hated that but in the grand scheam of things happ that they took such good care of him). Now I have a non-stop 3year old
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:59 AM   #3
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Yes.. i have seen this at a couple of births I have been at.. and My mom told me this was common around here awhile back to go internally to make sure they didn't forget sponges and stuff that they use to stop the bleeding
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I am not 100% sure about this, but that sounds incredibly intrusive and I would have kicked that doctor right in his frekaing face, period end of story.

I am assuming (not by knowing but simply logicaly reasoning here) that there are other ways of allow the uterus to expel whats in it. For one, when you get up to go potty after delivery, for two, uterine massage...

I have had the uterine massage done in hospital and I did iton my own with my last delivery, but NEVER had someone stick their whole hand up in there.

Didn't that hurt like H*LL?
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oh and btw, I am a DONA trianed birth doula but I have not read anything up on this that just seems like I said incredibly WRONG.
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Re: For mamas who had vaginal delivery?

I've heard of this happening when the placenta doesn't come loose right or the uterus kinda turns inside out when its coming out. Doesn't sound pleasant but I guess compared to the size of your baby whats an arm.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:22 AM   #7
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I had this done after my last birth. I am a red haired bleeder! After my third I needed IV meds to slow the heavy bleeding, so the last time I told them that and they got meds ready but didn't use them. The doctor went in and pulled out several large clots and checked for internal tearing. It was uncomfortable especially since he had just stiched me up! But in the grand scheme of birth with no pain meds it hurt a lot less than a baby coming out!
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I am not 100% sure about this, but that sounds incredibly intrusive and I would have kicked that doctor right in his frekaing face, period end of story.

I am assuming (not by knowing but simply logicaly reasoning here) that there are other ways of allow the uterus to expel whats in it. For one, when you get up to go potty after delivery, for two, uterine massage...

Didn't that hurt like H*LL?
Jeez, I agree. I think unless placenta (that was allowed to be birthed in PROPER timing, NOT forced/pulled out) is stuck, hands shouldn't be up there. I think you (not you really, but the care provider) is just asking for an infection. And placentas probably *shouldn't* even come out for at least 15 minutes or so after a birth. Mine didn't until an hour with dd, and I've heard of longer too. I think doctors rush it.
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This happened to my friend. It is unessasary and should not be done, if you breastfeed the baby right away it makes the uterus contract and it goes back to the original state. It also makes the placenta come out. I am sorry that happened to you. It would be a great thing to look up on the internet and maybe read about.
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Re: For mamas who had vaginal delivery?

yeah, they did this to me too. and WOW does it hurt.

i birthed with a midwife but since i had a fourth degree tear, an OB had to come in to sew me up. after he had finished the stitches, he stuck his whole arm up there and "pumped" it over and over while shoving down on my stomach. it was a horrible experience. i had no warning, and stifled my screams with my hands clamped over my mouth. i really, really hope it doesn't happen again, to any of us!
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