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Old 10-31-2006, 09:20 PM   #1
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RANT! friend gonna follow some book about making baby sleep through night.....

okay...to start i apologize if i offend anybody i just think this is a cruel and stupid idea...if i offend you pm me personally if you feel the need to ream me instead of starting a debate please. i just need to rant this and get it off my chest, and would like to know if i'm just a dumb @$$ for thinking this is wrong....but with kind explanations.


so here goes, my friend (the one i've ranted about before lol...i love her to death just really believe she does not need a baby, since she obviously doesn't want to take care of him) tells me about this book some woman at the ob's office told her about that tells you how to make your baby sleep through the night by like 6 weeks (even preemies by like 8). so she wants to do this now (went out and bought the book even though she hardly has anything for her baby ). i told her "that's great, but i feed on demand" her response is "yeah, well that's not going to work for me". so she intends on starting this dumb process when she brings him home from the hospital. i just can't imagine this working, apparently for some it does.....but i'm sorry considering growth spurts and what not there has got to be some type of ignoring hunger going on.
the idea of not feeding a baby overnight really disturbs me, ebf or formula fed it just doesn't seem right that any baby can possibly be contently sleeping through the night.

i have more to say but i need to go feed my hungry baby that says he's hungry!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:35 PM   #2
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I know EXACTLY how you feel. And all I can say is I'm sorry. I get so upset hearing about stuff like this that I don't even have the energy to fight it anymore. But if you think it might help, maybe get her the Dr. Sears Sleep Book. Or the No Cry Sleep Solution. Or bombard her with inernet articles.
Did she get "BabyWise"? Because there are several links specificaly about that book and how it is very dangerous to babies. The APP has taken a stand on some of it and there are several links about it. I have them bookmarked on my computer, but unfortunetly my computer is not working at all right now and I'm using someone else's. But if you go to MDC (mothering.com/discusion) you should be able to find the links or someone who will give them to you. I'm off to try google.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:37 PM   #3
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Ok, if she did infact buy "Babywise" here is a site deticated to how horrible it is for babies health. www.ezzo.info
It has links to studdies linking their method with FTF and dehydrations, etc.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:40 PM   #4
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Re: RANT! friend gonna follow some book about making baby sleep through night.....

not to defend her bc i also dont agree with it this NUTTY idea. but some FF babies CAN sleep through the night by 6-8wks (my 2 older did-i did not force iton them) only bc formula is much thicker then bm.

now if she is going to do this while BFing she is going to have ababy who isnt going to gain weight and her and the baby are going to have serious issues!........
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Another babywise link

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/9108.html

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not to defend her bc i also dont agree with it this NUTTY idea. but some FF babies CAN sleep through the night by 6-8wks (my 2 older did-i did not force iton them) only bc formula is much thicker then bm.
The book is about a lot more that just teaching them to sleep through the night. Its pretty much about setting a rigid schedule for your baby. Like, if the baby doesn't want to eat at your scheduled time, they aren't supposed to eat until the next one. Its full of stuff like that.

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Another babywise link

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/9108.html



The book is about a lot more that just teaching them to sleep through the night. Its pretty much about setting a rigid schedule for your baby. Like, if the baby doesn't want to eat at your scheduled time, they aren't supposed to eat until the next one. Its full of stuff like that.
now that is plain CRAZY!!!!!
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this IS the book she bought and she IS going to be breastfeeding....this just infuriates me.
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i dont blame you at all bc it ticks me off!
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funny Has she actually brought the baby home and tested that theory out??

I know that would have never worked for my son and still wouldn't and he's 10 months old and ff! I would have bf but I never got milk supply..none..nada...zilch! I have always fed my son on demand, if he starts crying I change his dipes I warm him up and I try a bottle! My cousin is very strict with her dd and feds her at precisely ever 4 hours, even if the poor thing is screaming--Now I think thats crazy! How else is that poor child suppose to tell evryone it's hungry?? She'll figure it out once the child screams and screams
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The book is about a lot more that just teaching them to sleep through the night. Its pretty much about setting a rigid schedule for your baby. Like, if the baby doesn't want to eat at your scheduled time, they aren't supposed to eat until the next one. Its full of stuff like that.

Ok, I have to defend mother's who HAVE used this method and at least TRY and give you FACTS rather than you believe things that are UNTRUE and are just things that are being MADE UP about this.

First off, I have done babywise with my son, and it is WONDERFUL. If you think it is about a rigid schedule or some crazy forcing sleep thing, it is NOT. If you HAVE NOT READ the book, please don't make comments about it until you have read it. Honestly. I am not saying this to make an arguement or anything like that. I just want to set the record straight for some of you who may not ACTUALLY know what babywise is about.

There is NOTHING in the book stating rigid scheduling, if you read the book you would know that Ezzo actually states that RS was done way back, and it was wrong, and those mother & babies paid for that. This is different. It's about ROUTINE not schedules. It's about predicting and knowing what to expect from your child. To know that when he is not crying out of hunger but for comfort, or out of sleepiness, or whatever it is. I know exactly what my baby's needs are, I don't respond to every cry with food. My son DOES sleep through the night since 11 weeks. He was NEVER forced to sleep either and was NEVER denied food at anytime.

THe book is set up to help you learn a routine for your baby, to help regulate their eating and sleeping patterns. Which creates healthy eating habits, like eating a full meal at each nursing not taking little 2-3 minutes "snacks" all day long. And teaching him how to sleep on his own without being nursed or rocked or put to sleep. He puts him self to sleep when he is "tired".

The book states that during your routine if there is a time when baby is hungry, FEED HIM, if something breaks up your routine, FEED HIM and pick up the routine later once you get back on track it's no big deal. It clearly states DO NOT deny your baby when he is hungry at anytime! I will quote the book if you want me to. jlmk.

I can't begin to explain the entire concept here in this one post, it's something you have to believe in, and you HAVE TO READ THE BOOK to understand. All the stuff you here out there are out right lies and rumours made up by people who have NEVER read the book, and have never put it into action nor seen it in action.

My son is the HAPPIEST baby ever...everyone at church flocks to him, he's the only baby who is happy all day and hardly fusses for anything unless he's hungry or tired, and I always know when he's going to be hungry or tired or when he's fussing I know if it's something else. I would NEVER deny my child, of ANYTHING. And it saddens me that you all would blaketly say that every mother/father that uses this book is somehow unloving or abusive or ignorant or anything of the like.

I love my son more than anything in the world, I only want the best of everything for him. And I know that, this book worked for us, and my son is happy and healthy, and is the most wonderful baby. It really hurts me when people make these comments becuse you are saying these things to me, even if you are saying it indirectly. I could say the same things about moms who answer every cry of their babies.....with food, and who have babies that are 3 times my son's weight because they eat ALL DAY LONG? So is OVER FEEDING your child not as bad or worse than someone who underfeeds their child? I don't underfeed my child, but that is what it sounds like. I am just saying this so that you all can understand where I am coming from. It hurts for someone to try and say you are a bad parent becuase you choose to care for your child differently than someone else.

My son NEVER EVER is neglected and BECAUSE of using the babywise book, my son is a happy, well adjusted, healthy baby. Please don't make judgements on something just based on what you hear from someone who has never done it. I probably haven't made a whole lot of sense here, but I hope you could get something out of it.


Honestly though, if you have questions about babywise, and just want to understand it...let me know I would be glad to explain it more or answer your questions. Just don't judge me or attack me if you don't agree with the methods.
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