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Old 02-19-2010, 09:18 PM   #1
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When I went to order more HPT there was an add for Instead disposable cups. The site said that people order them to put in after they BD to help pool the semen close to the cervix. Anybody do this? Anybody just use their resusable cups?
Update: When I started this thread I never realized how hot the topic would be! I have been asked to rename it, so here it is the new name same great info. Please post if you have success whether you finally get pg after you use a cup or if you think it helped in gender swaying. Also post if you see IC's on sale at your local stores so others can get a good deal too! So here is to not using our cups for their intendended purpose and future baby bumps
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Old 02-20-2010, 06:50 AM   #2
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Well I suppose it kinda makes sense. I always just elevated my hips after DTD.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:20 AM   #3
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It can definitely help but FYI the Instead cup is supposed to help to conceive boy as the spermies stay right at the cervix, and the menstrual cups like diva, moon, lady cups are supposed to help sway girl. Obviously there is still a chance for either gender but it does favor one or the other.

I know people that it has worked for after months of TTC in the first month using a cup of some sort. Provided you don't know about your DH swimmers they may need the extra bit of help and it could do the trick. It's certainly worth a try.
I always use my DC after so I don't have annoying leakage and it keeps them up where they need to be Don't be surprised when there is still some seamen left in the cup though, it's just seamen and some of the dead swimmers that didn't make it
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:31 AM   #4
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I have no idea about the gender swaying as I have never seen studies about this. As a biologist and nurse, I am hard pressed to say that the Instead cup will make boys more favorable as each sperm has the capability to travel the course. Both X and Y sperm have equal capabilities as the molecular weight difference is negligible. But there could be some studies that I have missed in my travels for gender selection information.

The Instead cups really help if you have a tilted uterus and cervix. The reason why is when you have intercourse in the missionary position with this condition the penis is aimed up and the cervix is down. So the ejaculate is no where near the seminal pool or cervical opening. This allows it to sit in the hostile vaginal environment longer and most often kills the sperm. The cups carry the "Deposit" to the desired location by force. Placing the IC in place makes the cervix and seminal pool accessible to sperm. It has also been called Poor Man's IUI as it has the same effect. If you do not want to spend the money and think you may have a retroverted uterus or cervix, try doggy, reverse cowgirl, and you on top for BD positions. It places the penis in a different position so that the cervix is accessable.

The fluid that comes out after BDing is mosty CM from you and some seminal fluid with all the dead sperm in it. The good stuff coagulates inside of you after it is deposited for about 10 minutes. This allows for transfer from the vagina to the cervical canal. So do not worry about leakage, it is nothing important coming out.
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I have no idea about the gender swaying as I have never seen studies about this. As a biologist and nurse, I am hard pressed to say that the Instead cup will make boys more favorable as each sperm has the capability to travel the course. Both X and Y sperm have equal capabilities as the molecular weight difference is negligible. But there could be some studies that I have missed in my travels for gender selection information.

The Instead cups really help if you have a tilted uterus and cervix. The reason why is when you have intercourse in the missionary position with this condition the penis is aimed up and the cervix is down. So the ejaculate is no where near the seminal pool or cervical opening. This allows it to sit in the hostile vaginal environment longer and most often kills the sperm. The cups carry the "Deposit" to the desired location by force. Placing the IC in place makes the cervix and seminal pool accessible to sperm. It has also been called Poor Man's IUI as it has the same effect. If you do not want to spend the money and think you may have a retroverted uterus or cervix, try doggy, reverse cowgirl, and you on top for BD positions. It places the penis in a different position so that the cervix is accessable.

The fluid that comes out after BDing is mosty CM from you and some seminal fluid with all the dead sperm in it. The good stuff coagulates inside of you after it is deposited for about 10 minutes. This allows for transfer from the vagina to the cervical canal. So do not worry about leakage, it is nothing important coming out.
this totally makes sense. When i had my ultrasound with our last loss she told me my uterus was tilted back a bit. and we keep doing it missionary lately for ttc!!! i have had a sister and friend use instead cups for ttc and worked very well. so if AF comes next week then i will be trying my instead cups. i dont use the for af as they dont fit my cervix well enough for af but for this it would be fine. and as for the sperm coagulating, i didt know that!!!!i always wondered what those little balls of jelly were!! i know TMI!! once sperm deposits how long until it gels up?
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I have no idea about the gender swaying as I have never seen studies about this. As a biologist and nurse, I am hard pressed to say that the Instead cup will make boys more favorable as each sperm has the capability to travel the course. Both X and Y sperm have equal capabilities as the molecular weight difference is negligible. But there could be some studies that I have missed in my travels for gender selection information.
There aren't any scientific studies per say; it's based on the experiments carried out by the women on ingender that routinely take part in EGS (extreme gender swaying). It's known that female sperm are more favorable in a lower PH environment and male sperm are more favorable of a higher PH environment. This is clearly seen with experiments carried out under the microscope.

The way the Diva Cup works to favor x swimmers is because it sits lower in the vagina then the Instead Cups. The sperm have to actually swim up the vaginal canal which is always a lower PH than right at the opening of the cervix during ovulation. The Instead Cup sits right on the cervix placing the y sperm in their most favorable environment.
I hope that helps explain how one favors the other
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There aren't any scientific studies per say; it's based on the experiments carried out by the women on ingender that routinely take part in EGS (extreme gender swaying). It's known that female sperm are more favorable in a lower PH environment and male sperm are more favorable of a higher PH environment. This is clearly seen with experiments carried out under the microscope.

The way the Diva Cup works to favor x swimmers is because it sits lower in the vagina then the Instead Cups. The sperm have to actually swim up the vaginal canal which is always a lower PH than right at the opening of the cervix during ovulation. The Instead Cup sits right on the cervix placing the y sperm in their most favorable environment.
I hope that helps explain how one favors the other
I had no idea that the Diva cup sits lower. I knew pH could effect in extreme laboratory conditions, but not invivo. I guess it would depend on how acidic/basic you could get the vagina to be without denaturing ther sperm or irritating the vagina all together. I would love to see more studies on this if you have them. Momma.
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I had no idea that the Diva cup sits lower. I knew pH could effect in extreme laboratory conditions, but not invivo. I guess it would depend on how acidic/basic you could get the vagina to be without denaturing ther sperm or irritating the vagina all together. I would love to see more studies on this if you have them. Momma.
Oh yeah, the things that we do to lower the vaginal PH .
So far I've done the following (swaying girl):

Cranberry suppliments - equivalent to 5,000mg fresh fruit twice daily. This lowered my PH dramatically even through ovulation.

Drinking crystal light, this too had a major effect on my PH

Vinegar douche 5 mins before DTD

Rephresh finger tip ever 3 days (this has a PH of 2 and is formulated to attach itself to the walls of the vagina helping to decrease vag PH)

And constant monitoring of vag PH with test strips

It's vital to keep you PH at a level at 4.0/4.5 and under 6.0 to favor x sperm best.

These are only some of the things done for swaying, there are actually 7 tiers and the outcome is best when all 7 are followed.

Sperm survive fine with lime juice and all the other crazy things that theses swaying mamas do to them. They run many experiments over and over on the sperm before making attempts. Usually even for months before attempting. I've never had any irritations from any of it, but some of the women will get irritations and just try a different technique next time.

Visit the ingender.com website there is a boat-load of information on there that I'm sure you will find intriguing

I apologize as I've completely hijacked this thread
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Oh yeah, the things that we do to lower the vaginal PH .
So far I've done the following (swaying girl):

Cranberry suppliments - equivalent to 5,000mg fresh fruit twice daily. This lowered my PH dramatically even through ovulation.

Drinking crystal light, this too had a major effect on my PH

Vinegar douche 5 mins before DTD

Rephresh finger tip ever 3 days (this has a PH of 2 and is formulated to attach itself to the walls of the vagina helping to decrease vag PH)

And constant monitoring of vag PH with test strips

It's vital to keep you PH at a level at 4.0/4.5 and under 6.0 to favor x sperm best.

These are only some of the things done for swaying, there are actually 7 tiers and the outcome is best when all 7 are followed.

Sperm survive fine with lime juice and all the other crazy things that theses swaying mamas do to them. They run many experiments over and over on the sperm before making attempts. Usually even for months before attempting. I've never had any irritations from any of it, but some of the women will get irritations and just try a different technique next time.

Visit the ingender.com website there is a boat-load of information on there that I'm sure you will find intriguing

I apologize as I've completely hijacked this thread
WOW!! I will have to check that place out. I have had all boys and obviously what you have done above did not lower it enough for me and I would have had to do more You probably have to be very particular. I will surely go check it out as I love new info!
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Old 02-20-2010, 09:41 AM   #10
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I can't wait for my DC to get here, I hope it works and I won't have to use my cup for it's intended purpose until next year!
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