Diaper Swappers

amphibology29 · 05-25-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MeadowAndColtsMama

"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24) Is this the scripture you're referring to? There are many translations of the Bible that word things in different ways but that IS in the Bible, interestingly, if you research the Hebrew and Greek words used in the Bible you'll get a deeper grasp of the meaning. The word used for 'rod' actually denoted a shepherd's rod, which was for GUIDING, not inflicting wounds. I suggest you do some research on the subject if you're interested, God is loving and wants parents to guide, never injure their LO's.

The church I attended growing up always explained it that way, too.

LeslieT · 05-25-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JellEBeanDesigns

The majority of the bible is not written by Christ. It is written by those who followed him.

None of the Bible was written by Jesus. And the KJV has 929 chapters in the Old Testament and 260 chapters in the New Testament (the Catholic Bible and Orthodox Christian Bible have more)...so the majority of the Bible was not written by followers of Christ. Only a little more than 20% was.

JellEBeanDesigns · 05-25-2010, 08:15 AM

God helps those who help themselves

Jer 17:5 (NIV) This is what the LORD says: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD."
Prov 28:26 (NIV) He who trusts in himself is a fool...

JellEBeanDesigns · 05-25-2010, 08:17 AM

All the words in Red are the words of Christ. The Old Testament or Torah is the word of God before He gave his only Begotten Son. SO no not by Christ but the Word of God

maureen73 · 05-25-2010, 08:18 AM

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I don't quite understand. Your friend listed the concept of spare the rod, spoil the child as one of the 10 commandments? I've never actually heard anyone use that phrase, although I've heard it on tv or read it in books. As far as the "real" ten commandments, they aren't Christ's words either.

Agreed

Janine · 05-25-2010, 08:47 AM

Not trying to start a debate, but the Bible instructs us to murder disobedient children. So while that particular quote might be inaccurate, the Bible does condone physical punishment for disobedience in children.

CherryPie · 05-25-2010, 08:52 AM

B/c people like to justify physical abuse to their kids.

bdhutier · 05-25-2010, 09:21 AM

I know several friends who feel that spanking their children is the only way to raise Godly children because of the verses mentioned. It just makes no sense to me,they believe that if they don't spank their children will be horrible rotten brats.So often I see a child get spanked 6-7 times for not going to bed,not eating dinner,talking back,ect .Most of them belong to the same church as wel(not Catholic)l. I have had to stop interactions with them because it is so disturbing. They are good parents they have just been taught that they HAVE to do this. All of these friends were ether taught by their parents they had to do this or by their pastors. I don't think it's fair to use the bible as a reason for hurting your children.

bdhutier · 05-25-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JellEBeanDesigns

All the words in Red are the words of Christ. The Old Testament or Torah is the word of God before He gave his only Begotten Son. SO no not by Christ but the Word of God

Just an fyi not all the bibles have those words in red.

LeslieT · 05-25-2010, 10:23 AM

Also, being quoted in a work is not the same as writing the work.

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Janine Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 8,008 Ratings: 14 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: Why do people say "Spare the rod, spoil the child" is in the Bible when it isn't? Not trying to start a debate, but the Bible instructs us to murder disobedient children. So while that particular quote might be inaccurate, the Bible does condone physical punishment for disobedience in children. __________________ Janine. Happy atheist, vegan, punk rock-loving scientist. Wife to the love of my life Matthew (SAHD), mom to DD "E" (4), baby boy "K" (2). Proud stepmom to DSS "M" (26)

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bdhutier Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: bubbaland Posts: 6,791 Ratings: 302 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: Why do people say "Spare the rod, spoil the child" is in the Bible when it isn't? I know several friends who feel that spanking their children is the only way to raise Godly children because of the verses mentioned. It just makes no sense to me,they believe that if they don't spank their children will be horrible rotten brats.So often I see a child get spanked 6-7 times for not going to bed,not eating dinner,talking back,ect .Most of them belong to the same church as wel(not Catholic)l. I have had to stop interactions with them because it is so disturbing. They are good parents they have just been taught that they HAVE to do this. All of these friends were ether taught by their parents they had to do this or by their pastors. I don't think it's fair to use the bible as a reason for hurting your children. __________________ CATHOLIC, Open to life,Pro-life from moment of conception to natural death ,mom of many blessings who LOVES to sew when I can find the time Please excuse any typos ,my laptop keyboard has a mind of it's own Last edited by bdhutier; 05-25-2010 at 09:30 AM.