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Old 01-17-2012, 07:52 PM   #11
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Oh, and your baby's weight loss was WELL within the normal limits of 10% weight loss after birth!

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Old 01-18-2012, 12:44 PM   #12
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If you are transferring 3 oz at a feed, your baby is taking in plenty! You just need to give your body a chance to provide it. Topping him off with 2 oz is WAY too much for a breastfed baby. Most breastfed babies consume about 2-3 oz a feed, which is why they nurse every 2 hours or so!

A little math for you. The average breastfed baby consumes between 25 and 32 oz of milk in a day.

If your baby drinks 3 oz every 3 hours, then your baby would get 24 oz of milk.
If your baby drank 2 oz every 2 hours, then your baby would get 24 oz of milk.

Adding 2 oz of formula with every feed is overfeeding your baby, killing your supply, and leading you to a serious down hill slide.

you are correct that he should be eating somewhere between 25 and 32 oz a day. The tone of this reply is a little heartbreaking for me. You have to realize that we have worked so very hard to BF. My first son was woken up every 2 hours around the clock for 6 weeks with only 90 ml a day. . He was born at 6 lb 13 and stayed at 6lb 4oz for the first 3 weeks of his life and then had minimal weight gain until we added the supplements every feed.

This time I started pumping from day one after every feed those early weeks. I have been taking supplements from day one. Mac moved himself from 10 feeds to 6/7 feeds. I feed on demand. The 2 oz supplement was set originally when he was not meeting 24 oz a day with the number of feeds with what he was transferring (at the 3 week visit when he was avg a little less that 2oz transfer with 7-8 feeds). I doubt that he transfers 3 oz every feed actually the transfer was 88 ml. When I pump and I am not with him I get 2 oz. I realize babies are better pumps but still. We started with 15ml supplements then moved to 30...45. and now 60. The calculations were done based on how often he came to breast on his own. He eats every 2 to 3 hours during the day on his own. He is stretching his night time out on his own. I am not waking him but I am not ignoring his cues to eat either.

Even at my best which is in the morning, Mac will nurse for 30 minutes show no signs of swallows at the end of his feeds and exhibit feeding cues after the feed. These cues can be eating his fist to screaming.

I have no issue with feeding every 2 hours if that at the end of the feed he is calm and satisfied.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:55 PM   #13
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Re: PCOS concerns leading to supplementing- need help

look I get that people think that I shouldnt have supplemented and that babies loss weight after birth that can easily be 10percent of their. I also get that people often feel that MDs jump the gun with supplements.

However, realize that I have PCOS my first attempt at BFing lead to a baby who was not gaining any weight and was irritable all the time and never satisfied. I was well beyond sleep deprived and overall a mess that first round..I vowed that with the second child I would do everything I could possibly do to build supply for the first month see where we were and then make life doable if I had to supplement. I have not been anti supplement this time because of my past history. The milk supply is much better.

please in your responses realize I am a mom trying to do what is right. I have been seeing a specialist at the hospital and didnt make supplement choices lightly. The amts have always been chosen with the MD breastfeeding specialist at the hospital.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:57 PM   #14
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so bottom line if you think I can get rid of the supplements and that /i am over feeding my baby then give me sound advice on how to decrease the supplements.
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I am going to try to decrease the supplements based on the kelly mom link provided. Please feel free to give any suggestions. Also, I think I am going to try my SNS again
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I am sorry you took what I said to be condescending or judgmental. You are in a difficult situation where you did what you thought was best. You came here asking whether you should drop supplements "cold turkey". I again say emphatically, no. Follow the kellymom.com link I posted. Watch your baby for cues that it isn't enough. Have your baby weighed frequently. And if you feel comfortable, look into domperidone. LOTS of moms have had great success with it. If that doesn't feel right to you, then don't use it. You don't need a script from your doctor to get it.

Trust your gut and do what is right for your baby. Rebuilding your supply will take more than 2 days. Be patient with yourself and do what is right for you and your family, regardless of what anyone else thinks. And remember, we are anonymous people on the internet. You don't know us from someone off the street.
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