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Old 03-08-2012, 04:12 PM   #11
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[QUOTE=Sophia&Daria;14770437]Aren't you nervous that you won't know if something goes you should contact your local ICAN leader to help point you to the reasurch, there is very little risk, not much more than any other birth, the major sugrery risks to you and babay if a csection is done. I labored at home, my dd was born in the car in the hospital parking lot. I know at least 20 moms who have had vbacs and none went to the hospital right away, the one that did ended in An unnecessary c-section.

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Aren't you nervous that you won't know if something goes wrong?
TBH, absolutely.

But I plan on being absolutely prepared, having hubby prepared and expecting my doula to be prepared and alert for "signs" of a complication. If any sign were to happen, i'd go straight to the hospital.

like pp said, the second you're in the door, you're on their clock. Noone wants to stand around waiting for your baby to arrive or your uterus to explode...why not encourage a quick C and get it done with?


check out birth wthout fear on FB and her blog. shes got tons of information and lots of encouraging posts about being prepared and confident in your body. Fear can be overwhelming...trust me, i know! but a prepared heart and mind can set you at ease to make the decision you can feel comfortable and confident with...whether its a csection or vbac.
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Just had my VBAC on March 1st and labored at home until my water broke and I entered active labor. When I arrived at the hospital, I was between 6 and 7cm. Less than two hours later, baby was out . Major contributors to my success were: 1) having my birth attended by a great team of my midwife and nurses; 2) having a doula; 3) laboring at home through early labor.
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With my first VBAC she was really overdue (according to OB standards) so I finally agreed to a TRIAL induction (pit only, lots of walking the halls, no water breaking). At the end of the day I went home, then was in labor all night (probably due to all the pit). I went back to the hospital the next day and had my doula there. She really saved me from another c-section. I labored all that day and into the night. My babies take FOREVER to be born. With my second VBAC, I was in labor all week. I had contractions so bad I thought for sure she was coming. I went in and got all hooked up and they sent me home because I wasn't progressing. So for five days I lived with horrible contractions. I finally went in again and I was five centimeters dilated. I still labored all night and the next day (again, long labor). Anyways, I think that staying home as long as possible is crucial and so is having a doula if your OB is at all wishy washy about VBACs. With my second child my doctor kept saying I could try for a VBAC and then when I was five months along he said he really wanted me to do a repeat C-section. I changed providers right then and there (for the best! ) Good luck!
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I definitely don't envy your situation hon! I've been in it myself all too often! The problem isn't that doctors are horrible...the problem is that they are governed by insurance rules and regulations, and by hospital policies who themselves are governed by insurance rules and regulations. Its a tough nut to crack into...even if you find an OB/midwife that would LIKE to "let you VBAC", if there are certain circumstances, they virtually HAVE to force you to have a repeat C/S
Low fluid, 40+ weeks, etc...these things aren't valid reasons to have a c/s, but everyone gets nervous and doesn't wanna risk the chance that THEY could be the ones attending a potential situation.

C/S ARE just as risky, just in different ways...but they get you to sign a "form" because it is a huge surgery...a form that covers ALL things they might in the future encounter in a potential lawsuit. You don't read it, you sign...and they feel a burden lifted, kwim? Even if you die under their knife, the sad truth is, its covered in the papers you signed. A VBAC for some reason, they are unwilling to do the same thing...so it makes them nervous because there is no safety net for them if something tragic happens (rare as that is..).

I would suggest these things hon, if you choose to still go with this provider:
*Labor at home as LONG as you possibly can!
*Eat food if you can handle it
*Drink a BOATLOAD of water starting around 38 weeks (this is typically when they do ultrasounds to find out fluid levels...if you aren't drinkign enough water, they will section or induce you for "low fluid"...but they never tell you that you can go home, drink a gallon of water in a few hours, and it immediately replenishes your amniotic fluid...its PROVEN...they just chose to not recognize it as fact..)
*Get a doula to help you at home, and calm any fears you may have. She will also be a huge advocate for you in the hospital. A huge problem I find is once I am in the hospital surrounding, a Dr. is the all-knowing almighty (lol!), and I wilt in his/her presence. You need someone to FIGHT for you, when you are weakest. Why try a scare tactic on a laboring woman who is tired and scared already? Because it works. If you wanna section cause you are nervous about your reptuation and insurance, or induce cause you have a party at 8pm that night....it'll work.
****ALL DOCTORS ARNE'T LIKE THIS**** but, alot are, and I've met alot of them. You are a number...one in hundreds they will see that given day. Her best interest is to have a guaranteed "happy mom, happy baby", and the trend is that a c/s is the easiest ticket there, and the losses and tragedies that are associated with c/s are excused because, well, "everyone knows its major surgery afterall.."

So anyhoo...blablabla...sorry for my rambling

I definitely second joining ICAN to calm your fears...
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I also would suggest watching the documentary called "Business of Being Born" by Ricki Lake. Its very informative at the least...I don't agree with *everything* in there, but I feel it shows a side of things that often are NOT addressed when you are seeing a typical OB/GYN provider. Some do try, and are great at what they do...but its best to arm yourself with as much info as you can, and use your "filters" when needed Best of luck to you hon!

I was able to have a home-labor/hospital VBAC with my 2nd son, and have gone on to have an "accidental" homebirth (3rd son), and then an "intentional" waterlabor/homebirth (my baby daughter).

My experiences have been progressively better and better...but with my first VBAC, I was in WA state, and I called about 5 different hospitals, 10 different OB/GYN practices, and nobody would "let" me VBAC. The OB/GYN that sectioned me with my first said I could vbac when I was on the operating table...but when I got in her office a few weeks later, she frankly said, "That just isn't a very popular choice right now, I would recommend a repeat c/s". I never went back to her, I was livid, and felt SO betrayed!

I labored at home with a midwife, then transfered with my doula who FOUGHT for me, with a hospital an hour away that I hadn't called. They finally gave us the Dr. on call, he was A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.! (see, I like awesome OB's....lol!) He personally supported VBAC's, and said he thought it was the best route, but gave me an epi to help relax me (Labored for almost 3 days, stuck in transition for 5 hours, baby was acynclitic). I delivered 3 hours from admittance, my beautiful first VBAC.

*IF* you can...I would suggest trying to get ahold of a homebirth midwife, tell her your fears, and ask if she has any contacts that might know of a VBAC friendly Dr? Sometimes family practices are more VBAC friendly? Just educate, educate educate
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Aren't you nervous that you won't know if something goes wrong?
There's a better chance of complication in a section than there is a VBAC. Sections are routine surgery, but they're still major surgery with major risk of complication.

Birth can be a risky thing. Even a perfectly healthy first time mom can have serious problems that are completely unforseen, and I know that from experience - my best friend only managed to save her baby by being in the right place at the right time when her abruption started, and she was a first time mom with no risk factors, and no symptoms until they placed the fetal monitor on her and realized her baby was in danger. But while these stories are scary, they're also incredibly rare. You and I as VBAC mamas are only at a very slightly higher risk for rupture than a mom who's uterus has never been cut, so the risks are VERY overblown. I too plan to stay home as long as I can, keeping in mind that the hospital that I want to birth in is about a half hour away. My midwives encourage that, actually. Can something go wrong? Of course it can. Will it? Very very unlikely.

As for how to avoid c-section afterwards, declining as many interventions as possible that keep you immobile seems to be a good start. An IV and continuous fetal monitoring may seem simple enough and just precautionary, but if they keep you chained to the hospital bed and unable to move around, that leads to requiring pain meds and epis, which can lead to reactions and labor stalling which then lead to more interventions. If they have wireless monitoring, that would be better, failing that intermittant monitoring would be a good choice. About the worst thing you can do is an induction. While the chance of rupture with VBAC is rare, it goes up considerably with things like pitocin because it makes contractions so much more intense. Basically, the simpler you can keep things, the better your chances. Keep in mind that they can't force you into anything, just be clear and firm.
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I'm not at all worried about laboring at home. While the hospital I plan to deliver at is 1.5 hrs away, I have a hospital less then 5 minutes from my home. If I noticed continued pain between contractions or heavy bleeding, I could immediately go there to be checked out and have baby out in csection safely. If not, I could be sent home or at least sent to the hospital of my choice. I've experienced first hand laboring the entire time in a hospital,t he time limits, the stress, the heightened pain due to being in uncomfortable environment treated rudely by nurses and tied down to a bed. I'm laboring at home for as long as possible!
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I'm not at all worried about laboring at home. While the hospital I plan to deliver at is 1.5 hrs away, I have a hospital less then 5 minutes from my home. If I noticed continued pain between contractions or heavy bleeding, I could immediately go there to be checked out and have baby out in csection safely. If not, I could be sent home or at least sent to the hospital of my choice. I've experienced first hand laboring the entire time in a hospital,t he time limits, the stress, the heightened pain due to being in uncomfortable environment treated rudely by nurses and tied down to a bed. I'm laboring at home for as long as possible!
Yep this is me as well. While I'd rather go to a hospital that's about 30 minutes away, in a pinch there's one a LOT closer that could handle an emergency section if it became absolutely necessary.
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If you are laboring for an insanely long time and not progressing much, sometimes an epidural can actually HELP you dilate! I wound up getting one after a couple days of non-stop, knock-me-on-my-rear, blinding contractions, and I actually got to relax! When I was able to relax, I started to dilate! 18-hrs after that, I had my VBAC baby! Wish I would have had someone tell me that with oldest dd! I may not have needed a c-section had I been able to relax after 24-hrs of pitocin-induced cx.

If they threaten c-section for failure-to-progress, you can buy time by asking about an epidural. If you'll wind up with a c-section and epi anyway, it's worth it to see if an epidural will help you relax and dilate.
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