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Old 04-26-2012, 12:16 PM   #61
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It's not that we don't want to, its that we can't! My husband makes $14.00 an hour. After paying for insurance, it would take him down to $6.25 an hour! That is below minimum wage! I don't have outrageous bills or debt, but it is still out of the question!
Oh no, I wasn't trying to bash you - I agree with you!

I'm saying that this is why I don't understand the "taxes too high" argument against universal healthcare.

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Old 04-26-2012, 12:18 PM   #62
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We pay a huge amount for insurance and honestly the coverage could be better and my DH works for a hospital! We continue to have it in case we would need something very expensive- it's not worth it to us to risk it.
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Oh no, I wasn't trying to bash you - I agree with you!

I'm saying that this is why I don't understand the "taxes too high" argument against universal healthcare.
Sorry, I misunderstood!
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:21 PM   #64
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This. I don't understand why people bash universal healthcare with the argument that they don't want to give 50% of their paycheck to the government. How is that worse than giving 30% of it to the government and 50% of it to an insurance company?
Have you looked into what Universal Healthcare entails? You're still going to pay a huge chunk in taxes, and most likely have to wait 6-12 weeks (if not longer) to be seen by a specialist.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:23 PM   #65
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Have you looked into what Universal Healthcare entails? You're still going to pay a huge chunk in taxes, and most likely have to wait 6-12 weeks (if not longer) to be seen by a specialist.
I already have to wait 6-12 weeks to see a specialist. I hear this argument a lot too, so I assume I'm just unlucky, but I've had to wait just as long to see specialists here in Texas as I did in Michigan.
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #66
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If you are not paying your own bills then i, with the rest Of the taxpayers, am paying your share. Your welcome.


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Old 04-26-2012, 12:32 PM   #67
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Just as I expected this thread to go...if you aren't wealthy you do not deserve kids. If you are having or foresee having ANY financial troubles ever no matter to what degree or how temporary (or why) you should NEVER consider having kids. If you ever have been or even MIGHT need any form of assistance you are a burden on society and should never have kids.

Does that pretty much cover it?
Yup. Sums it up quite well.
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Just as I expected this thread to go...if you aren't wealthy you do not deserve kids. If you are having or foresee having ANY financial troubles ever no matter to what degree or how temporary (or why) you should NEVER consider having kids. If you ever have been or even MIGHT need any form of assistance you are a burden on society and should never have kids.

Does that pretty much cover it?
This is a HUGE leap with little logical to it. There is an entire population in this country who neither falls into the wealthy nor the assistance category.
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Obviously, it is not the popular opinion around here, but I agree with this. Basics like food, shelter, health insurance are a parent's responsibility. This is not at all the same as saying "only wealthy people should have children." To ask people who are working hard to provide for their own families while paying taxes to foot the bill for your family simply isn't fair. (Agreed that health care should be universal, with everyone shouldering some of the burden of paying so that we all receive the same benefits, but that isn't the case at this point.)

Does your fiance have health insurance? If so, can you get married asap at the courthouse and enroll in his plan?
While I do agree with this, the cost of insurance is not the same for everyone. The cost of health insurance varies greatly from one employer/state/family to another. You can take two families who are very comparable in terms of their spending habits, income, hours worked, etc. and have two completely different scenarios regarding insurance options, and most people do not have the option to leave a good job and find another simply because they are not being offered an affordable healthcare plan for their family. It's very sad that these large insurance companies (among other factors) make it so hard for parents to be able to provide private health insurance for their families.
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Even having the option of insurance through an employer doesn't make it affordable either. It can be easily $200+ out of each paycheck even for crap coverage, not even including copays.
Exactly! I work for a large hospital, I pay $250 a month insurance....each person covered has a $750 deductible, luckily we just have copays for a doctor visit...but if any test nred to be ordered it falls under the copay. They also kicked my DH off the plan because if your spouse has insurance available to them thru work they have to take it, no matter what the cost. He works for a very smsll family run business and thr insurance is so crappy and extremely $$$. He had to get private insurance thru ehealthinsurance, has a $3000 deductible ...hopefully he has no major health problems anytime soon! We cant afford the cost of his private insurance and the extra cost of having him still on mine so that is all he has. The way insurance is in the US is a joke...i honestly WISH there was universal health coverage. Maybe then we could actually afford to go to the doctor.

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