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Old 07-27-2012, 11:15 AM   #241
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Haven't made it through the whole thread yet, so this may have already been mentioned.

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I did try using the Ecos detergent instead of the tide.
The lavender Ecos detergent from Sam's Club has fabric softener in it. I don't know if that's true for the F&C Ecos or not. I love the lavender Ecos on our clothes (water softener, FL Kenmore, vinegar in FS dispenser, line dry,) but I don't plan to use it on diapers b/c of the softener.

My mom got an LG FL last year, tried Ecos on clothes, and hated it. She said all her whites were dingy, even with bleach. I think she was using too much Ecos, adding Downy, and putting everything in the dryer. I suggested she ease off of the Ecos, lose the Downy, and maybe strip some of Dad's undershirts with Dawn. She decided to just try Tide instead. She hasn't been complaining lately, so maybe that's working for her.

Anyway, just wanted to warn people about the fabric softener.

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Okay, now I've made it through to the end. Wow. Lots of info.

My clothing routine is up above, and I intend to use Tide for diapers. I'm seriously considering a wet pail. I currently "wet pail" my menstrual cloth in an old nalgene bottle. I wear Party in my Pants pads and liners, and until I started the wet pail, I wasn't happy with the cleanliness.

Here's my MC "wet pail" system:
1. Fill Nalgene bottle 1/3 with cold water and add a tsp of Oxyclean. Close the lid and give it a shake to dissolve the oxy.
2. Add dirty pad and another 1/3 of water. Close lid and shake it like a cocktail shaker. Hide it on the edge of the tub, behind the shower curtain.
4. Add pads to bottle as I change them, shake, and replace on edge of tub.
3. Once each day, I drain off the water into the toilet, fill the bottle 2/3 full, add a little oxy, and shake.
4. At the end of my cycle, I drain the water, add clean water, shake again, and pour it off. I dump the wet pads in the washer and wash on hot with the towels.

Would a similar idea (with a bucket, and washing dipes every other day) work, or should I start trolling Craigslist for a used TL?

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Old 07-27-2012, 11:36 AM   #242
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Oh hun, I really hope it helps!
When you do the tub soak, use as hot of water as will come out of the spout, use PLENTY of dawn (and a softner if you need it, I can't remember), and let them stay in the tub for as long as possible. I REALLY hope it works for you. If the washer pans out, you may wanna use dawn in every load as you are proned to ammonia. Up the fluids of the kiddos, use vinegar in the rinse (if you don't have the hard water that reacts with the stink that sometimes comes with useing it). The vinegar is great at removeing the detergent left behind. I can't remember what detergent you used, but tide original liquid and arm and hammer rock! Also, remember that kids n pets at walmart. The blue and white bottle. They may be able to order it for you. It's just enzymes like that bac out soak stuff. It just rocks! We went camping for a week and I had some major stinkey diapers when we got home, it was 100+ deg out! Fresh dipes on the first wash. I can't recall the ammnt of bleach you tried. I remember it ruined some dipes a while back for you. When you get the tub soak done, try adding it to the water in the machine, then adding the dipes. No need to soak, that will comprimise the fibers. Call clorox for all the info you could ever want if you need to. I'd seriously use 3/4 cup for a reg tl'er, not sure of the size of the machine you are looking at, adjust as needed. If I remember correctly, clorox said a full 1 cup for all machines, big ones, to sanitise diapers. Then you can just periodically use it as you see fit. This is just a bunch of ideas I'm tossing out here. Tey are your diapers. I just hate to see you keep haveing to do this over and over. It breaks my heart! Seriously. !!!!!!! I wish I lived near by so I could help you troubleshoot!!!
I know you have experience with diapers, but can I offer some ideas?
Store the paile in a used room, not a closet. Bacteria love dark places. Use a ventilated pale or bag, don't close it up. If you use a can, ues a liner that can be washed too, or a trash bag that can be swapped out. Or, even just toss the can in the tub to be washed with a cleaner like mr.clean with antibacterial agents. Dry it well. Perhaps squirt a tad of the kids n pets in there. There are also those baking soda ****s, or even the darn fridge box. You could also sprinkle it over dipes. Rise dipes? Wash on sanitary, do the prerinse on hot or warm to rinse out more urine and feces. Crank the hhw heater. Add an additional rinse with vinegar. Be sure to give a goog liquid detergent a shot. Suds in the final rinse arn't as bad as people think as long as there arn't too many. Be sure the detergent has enzymes. They attack biological wastes. Call tide and request a manager to help if you have a bunch of questions. It took them a month to get back with me, but was worth it! Only a real high up persion will know the real answers. The liquid detergent is formulated to rinse much cleaner than powder. I tried powder yet again. I just love the smell. It left the smell so strong because it didn't rinse clean. I removed my drawer to do my once a month cleaning, ther ewas wowder gunked up all in it. DH banned me from useing it again because of the septic and machine. He had done it before but it was on sale and I figured if I used it with the super hot sanitary if would desolve better. I'm deff not saying it will work better for everyone, it's just worth a try. I'm trying to think here... The dryer, be sure they are 100% dry before folding. The dryer will greatly reduce moisture content. No moisture for any growth, kwim. Plus, the heat will aide in killing anything bad in there. Detergent again..find the happy medium. It should be enough to really get them clean, just not too much to be leaving buildup for the ammonia to cling to. They really often go hand in hand. Oh, for hard water, borax is awsome! Calgon is great too, just more expensive.

I hope i havn't overloaded you. I just really want to see you enjoy cloth and the kiddos. I have prob already said most of that. Sorry for any repeating! I'm so forgetfull.

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Old 07-27-2012, 02:33 PM   #243
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This might be a dumb question, but are we talking about color safe bleach or regular, plain Clorox bleach? And is bleach for all types of diapers, even AIOs with the colorful PUL? Relative newbie here. I don't have any issues yet, but I'm a little hesitant to use bleach.... THANKS so much!

Oh, my washer is a FL if that makes a difference.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #244
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Okay, now I've made it through to the end. Wow. Lots of info.

My clothing routine is up above, and I intend to use Tide for diapers. I'm seriously considering a wet pail. I currently "wet pail" my menstrual cloth in an old nalgene bottle. I wear Party in my Pants pads and liners, and until I started the wet pail, I wasn't happy with the cleanliness.

Here's my MC "wet pail" system:
1. Fill Nalgene bottle 1/3 with cold water and add a tsp of Oxyclean. Close the lid and give it a shake to dissolve the oxy.
2. Add dirty pad and another 1/3 of water. Close lid and shake it like a cocktail shaker. Hide it on the edge of the tub, behind the shower curtain.
4. Add pads to bottle as I change them, shake, and replace on edge of tub.
3. Once each day, I drain off the water into the toilet, fill the bottle 2/3 full, add a little oxy, and shake.
4. At the end of my cycle, I drain the water, add clean water, shake again, and pour it off. I dump the wet pads in the washer and wash on hot with the towels.

Would a similar idea (with a bucket, and washing dipes every other day) work, or should I start trolling Craigslist for a used TL?
I persionally hated wet-pailing. More of a breeding enviroment for my likes. MANY momas love it though! You DO NOT need a tl'er. I LOVE my samsung fl'er! Just keep to the basics and some common sinse and you will be just fine. You havn't started cloth yet right?

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This might be a dumb question, but are we talking about color safe bleach or regular, plain Clorox bleach? And is bleach for all types of diapers, even AIOs with the colorful PUL? Relative newbie here. I don't have any issues yet, but I'm a little hesitant to use bleach.... THANKS so much!

Oh, my washer is a FL if that makes a difference.
Seriously girl, NEVER a dumb question! Reg clorox has 6% disinfecting ingredients. Any other could have as little as 2%! Even the scented.
It will fade pretty cotton print wipes and fitteds, yes. It will not do a thing to the colors of any manmade material such as pul. Just never pour it over the items. I have used it for over 7 yrs now and no issues with it yet. It's a warrenty scare tactic imho. Just like the garbage about only use "cloth friendly" detergent. They sell it so of course they want you to use it. Just remember, you know how to wash and you will be better off, lol. The things you find on the internet about how to care for cloth is just really out there. It just scares momas away. I meet so many people who say it would be too hard for them. They hear all the trouble it is to wash them, ha!
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:07 PM   #245
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I persionally hated wet-pailing. More of a breeding enviroment for my likes. MANY momas love it though! You DO NOT need a tl'er. I LOVE my samsung fl'er! Just keep to the basics and some common sinse and you will be just fine. You havn't started cloth yet right?
Nope. Waiting for a BFP. I just like to plan.
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Lol! Where's the like button!!?!! Same here. You'll do great hun!
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This thread is so great! I don't have any stink issues. Currently I'm using Tide pods, just 1, but I'm getting burned out on washing daily with two in cloth. How many do you think is too many to wash? I was lazy this last load and went two days and that's about 33 diapers between a 4 mo old and 2.5 year old, plus wipes, wet bags, and pail liner. Is that too many? I did use 2 Tide pods to be safe and added an extra cycle to make sure it was completely rinsed. Also wondering if most people who use tide pods use 1 per load or 2 for heavily soiled loads?
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I have soft water so I can't even use 1. It oversudsd my machine. I just stick to the original liquid. My water is so soft, I only use half way to line 1. That less than I would normally ever recoment. It really depends on your water type. Reg-hard water, 1 or 2 should be just fine. As long as it's just a large load and not overloaded, they should be fine every other day. When i was useing flats and t-shirt daddy flats, I was going through so many I had to wash daily. You just want to make sure not to wash too small of a load that they can't get proper aggitation with eachother. Then again, you have to be sure not to wash so many that there is no room for proper water flow and good grinding action/aggitation. It sounds like you did just fine with the 2 pods and an extra rinse.
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I have soft water so I can't even use 1. It oversudsd my machine. I just stick to the original liquid. My water is so soft, I only use half way to line 1. That less than I would normally ever recoment. It really depends on your water type. Reg-hard water, 1 or 2 should be just fine. As long as it's just a large load and not overloaded, they should be fine every other day. When i was useing flats and t-shirt daddy flats, I was going through so many I had to wash daily. You just want to make sure not to wash too small of a load that they can't get proper aggitation with eachother. Then again, you have to be sure not to wash so many that there is no room for proper water flow and good grinding action/aggitation. It sounds like you did just fine with the 2 pods and an extra rinse.
Wow! We have hardish water so 1 barely suds and 2 actually had some suds. Most of the diapers are AIOs with a few pockets and fitteds. I worry that 2 days worth is too many but I guess as long as they are clean and fresh maybe I shouldn't worry about it. I actually like the pods better than the liquid.
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I just adored the dropps packs. You could always add a bit of borax or calgon to soften up the water so you get better use out of the detergent? You should be just fine as long as you arn't overloading.

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