The reason behind no sandwich meat.

[Melaine]

Originally Posted by newmommy13 According to this article most maternal listeria cases are asymptomatic and it is very hard to diagnose. Up to 30% of babies die from it and 12% that dont die have significant long term effects. Not to mention even if the neonate doesn't die or have life long complications it could be very ill and hospitalized for weeks or months which is a hellish experience I never want to repeat. Also listeria is the most common cause of second trimester loss. For a sandwich? Not worth the risk for me.

THIS.

Someone on another message board just had a friend lose her term baby to listeria. I will do everything I can to avoid something like that. No soft serve either.

[keen1981]

Originally Posted by EmilytheStrange Well that's true. The last lysteria outbreak I know of was on spinach.

Yeah, so it's just no so easy to say 'I won't risk killing
My baby over a sandwich!!!' cause you better be scrubbing those melons, tossing ur leftovers, and yadadada too. Kwim? The moms who have had listeria probably have no idea HOW they got it unless, they were informed of a local outbreak. You can't simply blame a sandwich.

[clothdiapercrunchy]

Im really not exactly sure how my moms generation had healthy babies. Seriously. I know that argument has been made before but seriousness, I just don't get it. She had no ultrasounds, she went 3 weeks late with both of us, she ate whatever she wanted, she had no idea she was pregnant until 8 or so weeks and never took a vitamin and drank wine. Im not saying that is ideal but sometimes I think we have too much info. That said. I do heat my meat up before I eat it. But im pretty nervous/anxious by nature. by the time I eat the sandwich its all cool again. No harm no foul. Its a small risk, reallllly small and its a judgement call we have to make.

[MamaNae]

I eat lunch meat...sliced deli meat wrapped around a bit of sliced colby jack cheese is heaven...right in front of the still open fridge LOL.

My midwife said so long as I'm getting it from a reputable butcher and not some guy in a back alley you're safe. Her recommendation was fresh sliced deli meat from the meat counter or local deli. It's probably safer than Oscar Myer...

The stuff can show up on spinach, lettuce, carrots, tomatoes...just about any fresh food that you don't cook routinely...I'm not going to heat up my tomatoes (ew?) or lettuce (double ew?)...

[busyteacher]

I just read the firat page of responses but will say I ate lunch meat while pregnant and was perfectly fine and so is my kid. I didnt eat it everyday but just every once in awhile.

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally Posted by clothdiapercrunchy Im really not exactly sure how my moms generation had healthy babies. Seriously. I know that argument has been made before but seriousness, I just don't get it. She had no ultrasounds, she went 3 weeks late with both of us, she ate whatever she wanted, she had no idea she was pregnant until 8 or so weeks and never took a vitamin and drank wine. Im not saying that is ideal but sometimes I think we have too much info. That said. I do heat my meat up before I eat it. But im pretty nervous/anxious by nature. by the time I eat the sandwich its all cool again. No harm no foul. Its a small risk, reallllly small and its a judgement call we have to make.

see, this argument doesn't work for me. Life was completely different back then. They weren't filling themselves with GMOs and fast food. People used to cook real food more often, etc.

And I'm pretty sure that some of my mother's actions contributed to my congenital spinal defect (that was not discovered until I was in my teens). They did smoke a lot more then.

On the other hand, I do agree that we have too much info and worry too much. The human baby is stronger than we think.

If no one had told me that I should keep my baby rearfacing until atleast 2, I would have turned her around on her 1yr birthday. Chances are good that I never would have had a bad repurcussion from that decision - I mean, I haven't been in an accident in the last 2 yrs, so it's safe to say that she would have been just fine. but I didn't KNOW that in advance.

when you do know, it's sorta hard to ignore the info. but.. as I've said in other threads on this board - I am a worrier. Some people are able to relax more than I am.

I wish the best for all of us in all the decisions because we're all trying to do the best we can.