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Old 12-11-2012, 11:39 AM   #1
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I am desperate. My 7yo is spiraling downhill and has been for months. He has extreme moods wings, crazy tantrums and outbursts, yelling and hateful words and a hard time concentrating and staying focused. We can't get through ten math problems in less than 2 hours.

He is clinically diagnosed PDD NOS an odd. Awe are trying To avoid meds but his behavior has become so hard to manage and its affecting the household and the other children. He can usually hold the emotions together at school but he second he is in the car, he melts and it just continues.

We need help. Services are limited in my area and traveling is not really possible during the week. Before I consider meds I want to exhaust other options. He is a picky eater as it is and eats a fairly limited diet but if this is possibly an answer I want in.

So, help me out? What do you know? Links to studies you've seen? Experience? Anything..... I your dealing with this too, I want to hear from you too.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:08 PM   #2
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Re: Talk to me about diet and behavior

Possible causes that you could research would be sugar or food dye (particularly red dye #40). I don't have any personal experience with these but know mom's who have cut these things from their children's diet and seen radical improvement. I could ask if one of them would be willing to e-mail you if you're interested.
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I dont believe food dyes and all that influence behavior. Add, asd etc are disorders of the brain.

But good healthy levels of fish oils have been proven to improve brain function in kids with add and asd. It basically lubricates the synapses and helps them fire better (layman's terms)

I would get some dha, and a good multivitamin and start there.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:13 PM   #4
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Possible causes that you could research would be sugar or food dye (particularly red dye #40). I don't have any personal experience with these but know mom's who have cut these things from their children's diet and seen radical improvement. I could ask if one of them would be willing to e-mail you if you're interested.
I would appreciate that. First hand experience is great. Will pm you.
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I dont believe food dyes and all that influence behavior. Add, asd etc are disorders of the brain.

But good healthy levels of fish oils have been proven to improve brain function in kids with add and asd. It basically lubricates the synapses and helps them fire better (layman's terms)

I would get some dha, and a good multivitamin and start there.
So you don't think that absorption of some foods play a role in brain function or make it difficult to concentrate or maintain emotions? Do you feel medications help these issues and are necessary or not? I will look into these suggestions. I have a consult next week with DS doctor.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:13 PM   #5
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Re: Talk to me about diet and behavior

Don't make drastic changes at once, start slow. For us, we started with getting out dyes (so most chocolate stuff was ok) and trying to get a good breakfast with our smoothies. Thn we worked up from there

Feingold diet has had amazing responses, basically anything that is a more natural diet will be better.
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Re: Talk to me about diet and behavior

I would look into the GAPS diet. There are lots of online accounts of parents having great success with it. It's not an easy diet, but it's also not meant to be permanent.

I definitely think that diet can have a positive or negative effect on a child's behavior and emotions. I don't have a special needs child, but even she acts differently when she eats food that is really not nutritious and way too processed.
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I dont believe food dyes and all that influence behavior. Add, asd etc are disorders of the brain.

But good healthy levels of fish oils have been proven to improve brain function in kids with add and asd. It basically lubricates the synapses and helps them fire better (layman's terms)

I would get some dha, and a good multivitamin and start there.
I'm afraid I have to agree. I know I wanted food to be the answer too and I have tried diet changes more than once. My oldest is PDD NOS, Anxiety NOS, SPD, pituitary dwarfism and it is hard to say what else will get added in the future. My youngest is bipolar and ADHD. When Kearnan was little we tried GFCF for a month and gained nothing but a 5lb weight loss he could not afford. Roughly 6months ago my pediatrician (who is a childhood developmental specialist and was working on behavioral therapy with Tharen) suggested attempting a diet change with Tharen if I was leery of drug therapy. We tried the most extreme version of the Feingold diet for 2weeks with both of the boys and it did nothing. I did discover that dyes cause Kearnan to itch though so I guess I got something out of it. Unfortunately the diet is hard on my stomach (I can't tolerate meat particularly well). We eat a relatively healthy diet. Tharen is on a fish oil supplement recommended by his pediatrician though I can't say I've seen much difference from it. Kearnan is now dye free (if he has dye it aggravates his Kertosis and he itches all over). What has helped Tharen the most has been a proper diagnosis from a developmental behavioral pediatrician and medication. Kearnan has not been medicated to this point (other than b12 shots when he was younger, vitamins and more recently hormone injections for his growth hormone deficiency) but I do believe he may be coming to a point that he needs intervention soon. He will be going to see the same doctor Tharen sees as soon as he has an opening for a new patient.
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Diet modifications have greatly improved my nephews behavior and ASD symptoms & my own son shuts down when he has any artificial ingredients!! We are 100% FD&C dye-free as well as artificial flavors, vanillin, etc. it makes a huge difference for us.

What do you have to lose? It is worth a trial!! Make sure you stick to it 100% though, no cheating at all! Start by removing all but protein fruits & veggies for a week - your child will live, I promise! then reintroduce slowly, starting with dairy, gluten, etc. see what happens. Not every child will respond, but isn't it worth trying??
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My son is on a GF diet, as all natural/whole foods as possible given his extreme pickiness. If he eats any candy, it's the occasional treat and is organic with no dyes, chemicals, etc.

He also get a children's multivitamin daily. We have not been successful with adding fish oil in any way, shape or form to his diet, but we are trying to do that.
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My DD has Celiac disease, but also has neurological symptoms (uncontrollable emotions and behavior, trouble sleeping) when she has gluten as well which are not considered to be a result of Celiac. So I would say yes, his symptoms may improve with diet changes if they are a result of a food sensitivity.
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