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Old 02-02-2013, 05:02 PM   #1361
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I didn't mean that all foreskins are gross. My ex's foreskin was gross. And, he was not American

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I know, heck, if they were going to that extreme I as a parent might even bring up sexual harassment charges??

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Old 02-02-2013, 05:06 PM   #1362
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Just curious what kind of Dr.s are you all using? That's a serious question. My son had a specialist circumsize him for personal reasons. He was well over $4k and did use numbing methods. Similar to anesthesia, but injected. He barely flinched when they were inserted. We were given pamplets on the procedure and there wasn't anything "horrific" about it. Are you all experiencing something that I didn't?

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I'm not going to argue. This thread has come too far to be closed over petty arguments. I'm just going to hold onto faith that the majority of people who turn to this thread for information realize a circumcision, the removal of an organ done under local or no anesthesia, is not a peaceful procedure that infants sleep through.

And I agree, PP.... had I been a parent of a highschool boy being put through that much torment over his genitalia, I would certaintly go above and beyond to put a stop to it; even if that meant turning to the law. That is no doubt sexual harassment.
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Just curious what kind of Dr.s are you all using? That's a serious question. My son had a specialist circumsize him for personal reasons. He was well over $4k and did use numbing methods. Similar to anesthesia, but injected. He barely flinched when they were inserted. We were given pamplets on the procedure and there wasn't anything "horrific" about it. Are you all experiencing something that I didn't?
http://cpj.sagepub.com/content/25/8/412.abstract

Regardless of whether or not circumcision is painful, the choice should be left to the person who has to live with and use the penis for the rest of their life.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:23 PM   #1364
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August6, my husband is intact. He was NEVER made fun of for it and was always very proud of his penis, though his pride came from his size and not his circumcision status. He has displayed himself on many occasions for quite a few people and nobody has ever had anything negative to say about his foreskin. And I will say from my experiences that intact is better. I find the feeling of a keratinized glans rather unappealing, sorry if that's TMI.

Also, if any woman turns a man down because his body is the way nature intended, she is nothing short of shallow and ignorant. Does a man really want to be with a woman like that? I certainly wouldn't want that for myself, my husband or my son.

ETA: This link is NSFW, but I think the images speak for themselves. http://www.drmomma.org/2011/08/intac...gnificant.html

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Old 02-02-2013, 05:31 PM   #1365
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Unless there is a medical reason for it. Like I said, we don't regret our decision or feel bad for it at all.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:34 PM   #1366
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I agree. I would never want my son to be with a girl that was so shallow and ignorant that she couldn't accept him for the way he was. That's why I gave my ex a chance instead of banning with everyone else that was against him for his penis. I didn't enjoy sex with him because uncirc'd isn't my thing, but I never broke up with him for that. And, I would never make a man feel like less because he was circ'd. That would be just as cruel!

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August6, my husband is intact. He was NEVER made fun of for it and was always very proud of his penis, though his pride came from his size and not his circumcision status. He has displayed himself on many occasions for quite a few people and nobody has ever had anything negative to say about his foreskin. And I will say from my experiences that intact is better. I find the feeling of a keratinized glans rather unappealing, sorry if that's TMI.

Also, if any woman turns a man down because his body is the way nature intended, she is nothing short of shallow and ignorant. Does a man really want to be with a woman like that? I certainly wouldn't want that for myself, my husband or my son.

ETA: This link is NSFW, but I think the images speak for themselves. http://www.drmomma.org/2011/08/intac...gnificant.html
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Unless there is a medical reason for it. Like I said, we don't regret our decision or feel bad for it at all.
Medical reasons are acceptable IMO, but they are also very rare.
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I agree. I would never want my son to be with a girl that was so shallow and ignorant that she couldn't accept him for the way he was. That's why I gave my ex a chance instead of banning with everyone else that was against him for his penis. I didn't enjoy sex with him because uncirc'd isn't my thing, but I never broke up with him for that. And, I would never make a man feel like less because he was circ'd. That would be just as cruel!
I agree, it would be cruel. A man's circumcision status is usually not something he chose for himself.
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Rare, but possible, as in our case. That is why I feel like there should be some input here from a circ'd child's mom's side who isn't completely for or against.

I am aware that this thread is for the reasons to not do it, but so far all the women that have gone against the grain have been cast out (not that they didn't deserve it, some were overly dramatic). But, again, it's important to see both sides so all mom's don't feel like their being shamed or bad parents because they did do it or decide to do it.

Some were ignorant to the knowledge, but I wasn't, and I still did it because it was medically necessary. However, I'm not going to make any woman feel like it makes them a bad person for doing it either, because I know how easy it was for my son to go through. Plus, it's virtually impossible for anyone on this thread to speak on behalf of all babies and say that it's an awful experience that is incredibly painful and practically mutalation when they haven't witnessed a fraction of the procedures that have been performed. I'm sure it does hurt if not done by someone who truly knows what their doing, but my son had a great experience considering he wasn't "consenting".

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Old 02-02-2013, 05:53 PM   #1370
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Rare, but possible, as in our case. That is why I feel like there should be some input here from a circ'd child's mom's side who isn't completely for or against.

I am aware that this thread is for the reasons to not do it, but so far all the women that have gone against the grain have been cast out (not that they didn't deserve it, some were overly dramatic). But, again, it's important to see both sides so all mom's don't feel like their being shamed or bad parents because they did do it or decide to do it.

Some were ignorant to the knowledge, but I wasn't, and I still did it because it was medically necessary. However, I'm not going to make any woman feel like it makes them a bad person for doing it either, because I know how easy it was for my son to go through. Plus, it's virtually impossible for anyone on this thread to speak on behalf of all babies and say that it's an awful experience that is incredibly painful and practically mutalation when they haven't witnessed a fraction of the procedures that have been performed. I'm sure it does hurt if not done by someone who truly knows what their doing, but my son had a great experience considering he was "consenting".
I can understand a medical reason. I didn't read all the posts so I have no idea if you mentioned anything about what happened with your son... Nor do I expect you to. I will say that many reasons cited as medical reasons for circumcision are not legitimate, such as phimosis and hypospadias. Also, many problems that people believe are associated with being intact are not associated with being intact, but are caused by improper care of the infant's penis, such as forced retraction.

I also do not believe that the very slim chance of a male needing to be circumcised due to medical necessity justifies routine infant circumcision.

ETA: Pain of the surgery is not my only issue with it, though it is a major issue. My issue is with cosmetic surgery being forced upon someone who cannot consent, and the potential consequences that can result such as infection, skin bridges, necrosis, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, desensitization, and even death.

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