Top ten reasons not to circumcise your son

[kushie tushie]

Originally Posted by august6 Correct, but is it really so wrong to voice a small experience? Not to me.

There are stickies for circ and no circ. No one called your decision bad. You obviously came in here with guns blaring when you said "foreskin is gross". If you want to start a thread for circ by as mean start one but this is not a thread for debate. It is fact circ is not medically necessary. There are very few legit medical reasons to circ and for me and most mamas on this thread that isn ot reason to do "preventive treatment" on someones genitals.

No please take your debate else where before you get this thread locked.

I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[mommajewels]

Originally Posted by august6 Well that seems completely different than what my son went through. He wasn't injected in his penis, almost abdomen (not waking up because the needles were so little), and was numbed for 30 minutes before they even began. He slept through the entire thing, even my husband holding his hand. It was literally like he had no idea. After that, I changed him with no problems. He never cried during changes or flinched for that matter.I would recommend any parent seek out a specialist besides having the closet doc around. I couldn't have asked for a better, unplanned, circ for my son. And yes, that would be very hypocritical of you. I would also speak up if I saw someone being misinformed. I never said that it doesn't hurt any baby. I simply stated my son slept through it and then was accused of falsifying, exaggerating, and not knowing what I was talking about. Most mom's don't know the facts, so this thread is AWESOME for them, but it's not horrible to toss in a story every once in awhile of someone who had a good experience.

In all of the reading & research I have done over the past 3 years that I became interested in this topic, I have never heard of any procedure that injects the anesthetic into the abdominal/pelvic region.. let alone anywhere but the penis. I am definitely confused. Given how locals work, that makes no sense.

Would you mind sharing a little more about your personal experience?
How old was your son, what medical complication did he have, what kind of specialist did his procedure, and what technique did they use? Of course you don't have to if you consider all that to be too personal, but I am defnitely intrigued and I assume since you were given pamplets you have more info to share other than you used a super expensive specialist from 2 states away....

[august6]

But I do. He was asleep when they numbed him. They let it numb for 30 minutes before starting, then they did what they did, and he continuted to sleep. He was a happy baby when he woke up. Diaper changes were fine.

I don't know why you want to think my son was in so much pain when he clearly wasn't. It's like you want to think it was a god awful experience for him, that it has destroyed him or something. If he was, why didn't he cry when I changed him, why didn't he cry when he peed, why didn't he do anything but sit there and be a happy little newborn when he woke up. Was he still in shock for the next week? No, because he wasn't in shock at all. . . because I paid a crap load of money for a Dr. that was a complete genius to save my son's life and keep him as happy as possible.

I know my son handled it well, and that's all there is to it. You can imagine whatever you want to, you can tell me that I don't know my child, that I didn't have a great Dr., that my husband didn't witness what he saw, but I know differently. I'm am SO glad that you are this passionate about this stuff, truly, but please, keep in mind that if you weren't there, your input is pretty much inapplicable. You can think I'm exaggerating, lying, or trying to get everyone to chop off their kids penises, but I'm not. I'm just trying to make some mom's feel better on a thread that seems so . . . damn them all.

Like you said, this thread has come too far to be shut down over something so petty like pretending to know my child better than me. Have a great night and please keep spreading the word about circs, just try not to be so one sided since you have experienced both sides.

I will not be responding anymore now that everyone knows my side -the truth, no matter how rare and impossible.

Originally Posted by mommajewels But see, you don't. You said your husband was there, and your son slept through the entire removal of his foreskin. If that is the case, if he was "sleeping" and had no reaction to the circumcision, you have no way of knowing that he was not in shock; which is an almost comatose state caused by the bodies reaction to extreme pain... which often makes the person look as if they are asleep. The most anesthesia any doctor will use for a routine newborn circumcision is a dorsal nerve block, an injection of medication directly into the babies penis.. which does not block 100% of the pain.

[kushie tushie]

Originally Posted by august6 Well that seems completely different than what my son went through. He wasn't injected in his penis, almost abdomen (not waking up because the needles were so little), and was numbed for 30 minutes before they even began. He slept through the entire thing, even my husband holding his hand. It was literally like he had no idea. After that, I changed him with no problems. He never cried during changes or flinched for that matter. I would recommend any parent seek out a specialist besides having the closet doc around. I couldn't have asked for a better, unplanned, circ for my son. And yes, that would be very hypocritical of you. I would also speak up if I saw someone being misinformed. I never said that it doesn't hurt any baby. I simply stated my son slept through it and then was accused of falsifying, exaggerating, and not knowing what I was talking about. Most mom's don't know the facts, so this thread is AWESOME for them, but it's not horrible to toss in a story every once in awhile of someone who had a good experience.

Sooo honest question here....
If foreskin is so gross and sex with an intact man was bad why did you decide to leave you son intact, even though it didn't work out in the end?

I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[august6]

Lmao, I never made this a debate. I stated my experience and opinon like everyone else, and it was turned into a debate. You feel like I came in with guns blaring, but I apologized immediately for incorrectly stating what I meant. I'm sorry you didn't catch that or the one where I said children are perfect or that all foreskins are not gross. I'm sorry you didn't read where I said I didn't want to have to do this for my son, but I did out of medical necessity. I'm sorry that you feel so threatened you have to push me away so I don't taint anyone elses mind with possibilities that no matter how much you prepare not to, you may have to circumsize your child. Forgive me?

Originally Posted by kushie tushie There are stickies for circ and no circ. No one called your decision bad. You obviously came in here with guns blaring when you said "foreskin is gross". If you want to start a thread for circ by as mean start one but this is not a thread for debate. It is fact circ is not medically necessary. There are very few legit medical reasons to circ and for me and most mamas on this thread that isn ot reason to do "preventive treatment" on someones genitals. No please take your debate else where before you get this thread locked. I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[kushie tushie]

Originally Posted by august6 But I do. He was asleep when they numbed him. They let it numb for 30 minutes before starting, then they did what they did, and he continuted to sleep. He was a happy baby when he woke up. Diaper changes were fine. I don't know why you want to think my son was in so much pain when he clearly wasn't. It's like you want to think it was a god awful experience for him, that it has destroyed him or something. If he was, why didn't he cry when I changed him, why didn't he cry when he peed, why didn't he do anything but sit there and be a happy little newborn when he woke up. Was he still in shock for the next week? No, because he wasn't in shock at all. . . because I paid a crap load of money for a Dr. that was a complete genius to save my son's life and keep him as happy as possible. I know my son handled it well, and that's all there is to it. You can imagine whatever you want to, you can tell me that I don't know my child, that I didn't have a great Dr., that my husband didn't witness what he saw, but I know differently. I'm am SO glad that you are this passionate about this stuff, truly, but please, keep in mind that if you weren't there, your input is pretty much inapplicable. You can think I'm exaggerating, lying, or trying to get everyone to chop off their kids penises, but I'm not. I'm just trying to make some mom's feel better on a thread that seems so . . . damn them all. Like you said, this thread has come too far to be shut down over something so petty like pretending to know my child better than me. Have a great night and please keep spreading the word about circs, just try not to be so one sided since you have experienced both sides. I will not be responding anymore now that everyone knows my side -the truth, no matter how rare and impossible.

If you can in here to talk about your sons experience why was your first post in this thread about gross foreskins and how geeat sex is sith your circed husband?

Seriously neither of those things had to do with you sons unplanned circ or how well he handled it.....

I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[august6]

Foreskin is not gross, the man's that I had sex with was gross. Please, state it right if you're going to call me out. And, I didn't want to because it wasn't necessary. Unfortunately, then it was.

Originally Posted by kushie tushie Sooo honest question here.... If foreskin is so gross and sex with an intact man was bad why did you decide to leave you son intact, even though it didn't work out in the end? I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[kushie tushie]

Originally Posted by august6 Lmao, I never made this a debate. I stated my experience and opinon like everyone else, and it was turned into a debate. You feel like I came in with guns blaring, but I apologized immediately for incorrectly stating what I meant. I'm sorry you didn't catch that or the one where I said children are perfect or that all foreskins are not gross. I'm sorry you didn't read where I said I didn't want to have to do this for my son, but I did out of medical necessity. I'm sorry that you feel so threatened you have to push me away so I don't taint anyone elses mind with possibilities that no matter how much you prepare not to, you may have to circumsize your child. Forgive me?

I don't feel threatened at all. I read you first post before you edited it.... I just felt it was so beyond ignorant I decided not to comment. Then when your story changed to your sons unplanned circ I decided to call you out.

I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[august6]

Because I had just read 20 pages of people talking about how gross a circ'd was, how they didn't enjoy it with a man that hadn't been better, how awful it is etc. . . and it made me feel like, if I was a man reading this, I would be ashamed of myself, afraid to have sex with a woman ever, and completely humiliated by the way they talk about penises like mine. Plus, I had no intention of coming back here multiple times, so I thought I'd get it all out in one shot. Shame on me.

Originally Posted by kushie tushie If you can in here to talk about your sons experience why was your first post in this thread about gross foreskins and how geeat sex is sith your circed husband? Seriously neither of those things had to do with you sons unplanned circ or how well he handled it..... I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

[mommajewels]

Am I the only one who is curious what kind of procedure was done that the anesthetic was injected into the "almost abdomen" instead of the penis?