Diaper Swappers

twinpossible · 02-06-2013, 11:02 PM

Okay ladies, what are your thoughts? I know people deny it all the time but why specifically? I hate the idea of ANY shots period and from what I read you can give it to the child orally. That's all I know so far.

oregonmom · 02-07-2013, 08:47 AM

We have not done it with our last 2 children and will not with the one due next month. I have been told if you are circing right away it is a good thing, but my midwife said that most babies don't need it, so she does not really push it.
Some people I know don't like the idea of doing the oral because they feel it is messing up the gut flora for the baby by introducing something other then breastmilk to the stomach. We have thought about doing the oral, but didn't end up doing so mostly because it was just one more thing we did not feel like having to remember to buy. The midwife that attended my last two births would do the oral, but did not carry it so the parents had to order it and bring it with them.

cheezpoofs · 02-07-2013, 08:56 AM

The reason I don't do it personally is because I think there must be some evolutionary reason why newborns are born with lower levels of Vitamin K. I think I've also read that the Vitamin K injection at birth may be linked to childhood leukemia, but I can't cite any studies and my memory may be faulty on that.

I do know that Vitamin K is strongly recommended for babies who have a difficult birth and/ or a lot of bruising and that many hospitals absolutely require it and you can't refuse (or you "can" and then the hospital will get CPS/ judges involved).

Many consider this a very important newborn procedure to help prevent brain bleeds.

kushie tushie · 02-07-2013, 09:00 AM

We don't do vit K. We haven't for either kids and wont for this baby.

Basically its given to help clotting. So the reason its given as a preventive shot is in case the child has an unknown brain bleed. Truely the oral doesnt work the same way and can't. You give it slowly over time so it wouldn't be enough to prevent a brain bleed if it takes how ever many weeks to give the full dose of the shot. By then the effects of a brain bleed not reversible.

We always write on our birth plan no vit K unless the birth is tramatic. Then we will discuss it with our midwife. They always think this is a good way to go. If the birth was very tramatic (forceps, vacuum, very fast/beyond normal pushing or whatever). We would then consider it and discuss the need.

I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos!

7 for now · 02-07-2013, 10:24 PM

I do the Vit k shots. But, only because I have to take low dose aspirin daily to prevent blood clots in my aortic valve that was replaced. That causes my kids to have blood that doesn't clot well at birth.

That hasn't been an issue really until I delivered my newest ds at 30 weeks. He had trouble with his blood clotting after getting a PICC line placed and umbilical lines. It took about a week for his blood to start clotting well, even with the vitamin K shot.

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quicksilverNHS · 02-07-2013, 10:59 PM

My first was a 36hr labor with 3.5 of pushing and he got stuck on my pubic bone. We had to vacuum him to get him under (thankfully for literally 10sec to help guide him with that and pressure from doc's hand on my pelvis pushing him down). So we got it with him.

I'm at extremely high risk for a preemie this time and have been on blood thinners the entire pregnancy so I will get it regardless.

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TeachinAuntie · 02-08-2013, 06:38 AM

I denied it for my 2nd (know better, do better) because it can cause/increase risk of jaundice & increases cancer risk.

My kids already have the risk of a male inherited leukemia so we don't need to increase their chances.

My first born was jaundiced & had to stay in the hosp. 6 extra days--the 2nd didn't have any nb jaundice.

hilaryisinked · 02-08-2013, 07:46 AM

Eh I don't have a strong opinion on it either way. We've been non vaxxers before and now we vax. My first had a very long induction and it was a little traumatic. My second had a quick, uneventful induction. Neither were jaundice. We declined hep b at birth but they had vitamin k.

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cowangel · 02-08-2013, 09:53 AM

I have csections so I consider that a tramatic birth and do the shots :-)

twinpossible · 02-08-2013, 12:14 PM

Thanks ladies, we decided to deny it unless the birth is horrible

02-06-2013, 11:02 PM	#1
twinpossible Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in a pile of laundry! Posts: 1,936 Ratings: 2 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Vit. K shot Okay ladies, what are your thoughts? I know people deny it all the time but why specifically? I hate the idea of ANY shots period and from what I read you can give it to the child orally. That's all I know so far. __________________ A crunchy wife to B and momma of identical twin girls G & E , our rainbow baby C born at home April 2013 and R forever in my heart.

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oregonmom Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 1,207 Ratings: 12 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: Vit. K shot We have not done it with our last 2 children and will not with the one due next month. I have been told if you are circing right away it is a good thing, but my midwife said that most babies don't need it, so she does not really push it. Some people I know don't like the idea of doing the oral because they feel it is messing up the gut flora for the baby by introducing something other then breastmilk to the stomach. We have thought about doing the oral, but didn't end up doing so mostly because it was just one more thing we did not feel like having to remember to buy. The midwife that attended my last two births would do the oral, but did not carry it so the parents had to order it and bring it with them. __________________ Alisha: SAHM and teacher to 3 great boys 03/2002, 11/2005, 11/2007, and one great girl -03/2013. 2 Angel babies 7/2010,10/5/2011-

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cheezpoofs Registered Users Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 2,241 Ratings: 34 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	Re: Vit. K shot The reason I don't do it personally is because I think there must be some evolutionary reason why newborns are born with lower levels of Vitamin K. I think I've also read that the Vitamin K injection at birth may be linked to childhood leukemia, but I can't cite any studies and my memory may be faulty on that. I do know that Vitamin K is strongly recommended for babies who have a difficult birth and/ or a lot of bruising and that many hospitals absolutely require it and you can't refuse (or you "can" and then the hospital will get CPS/ judges involved). Many consider this a very important newborn procedure to help prevent brain bleeds. __________________ Veann - Libertarian, atheist, bookworm, heavy metal Mommy to all boys: Lucius (2-13-09), Orion (4-22-11), and Castiel (3-4-13), wife to Matthew - Anti-circumcision, babywearing, somewhat AP, natural birthing/ homebirthing, don't care about being "green", doing things my own way...

02-07-2013, 09:00 AM	#4
kushie tushie Registered Users Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 6,709 Ratings: 22 Feedback: 100% My Mood:	We don't do vit K. We haven't for either kids and wont for this baby. Basically its given to help clotting. So the reason its given as a preventive shot is in case the child has an unknown brain bleed. Truely the oral doesnt work the same way and can't. You give it slowly over time so it wouldn't be enough to prevent a brain bleed if it takes how ever many weeks to give the full dose of the shot. By then the effects of a brain bleed not reversible. We always write on our birth plan no vit K unless the birth is tramatic. Then we will discuss it with our midwife. They always think this is a good way to go. If the birth was very tramatic (forceps, vacuum, very fast/beyond normal pushing or whatever). We would then consider it and discuss the need. I'm mobile.... sorry for the typos! __________________ Amanda , wifey to hubby Daniel , BWing, Co-sleeping, BFing, ing, non vaxing, non-circing, crunchy MAMA to W(2/10) , L (6/11) and due in March 2013! Come SWAG with me and earn FREE $$$$

02-07-2013, 10:24 PM	#5
7 for now Registered Users Join Date: May 2010 Location: SE Idaho Posts: 861 Ratings: 1 Feedback: 100%	I do the Vit k shots. But, only because I have to take low dose aspirin daily to prevent blood clots in my aortic valve that was replaced. That causes my kids to have blood that doesn't clot well at birth. That hasn't been an issue really until I delivered my newest ds at 30 weeks. He had trouble with his blood clotting after getting a PICC line placed and umbilical lines. It took about a week for his blood to start clotting well, even with the vitamin K shot. Sent from my iPhone using DS Forum __________________ Homeschooling, cd'ing, bwearing, bfeeding, delaying/selectively vaxing, non-circing, PT Nurse mama to: 6 beautiful princesses and 3 handsome princes V-19, G-17, E-12, S-10, C-7, J-5, S-2, J 7-23-11, J-30 weeker 11-17-12 Yes, We know what causes it!!