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Old 03-18-2013, 12:29 PM   #31
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I suspect they will admit me to L&D without a heplock when the day comes. No need for drama, but I have it planned if I need it.

I don't really know what else to do. I have passed out twice looking at my own IV, and once I nearly fainted visiting a friend with an IV and way too many other tubes. Other than these occasions, I have never fainted. I am shocked the commenters are so concerned with the opinions of onlookers. Why on earth should I risk my labor to spare a few other people I don't know the trauma of seeing me in distress? Would you risk your health and baby to avoid making a small scene? I wouldn't and I won't. Shall I just submit to whatever the hospital wants, even if it will put me in danger? If you don't fight for what you want, you get whatever scraps life throws you. If I don't do everything I can, and then I faint and wake up maimed by a C-section it will be my own fault and I would more easily forgive myself causing a ruckus than forgive myself for doing nothing, submitting to mindless policy and wake up C-sectioned.

I know a home birth at this point is not possible as I have not prepared for it and beyond that I don't want one. I *want* access to medical care if I need it in an emergency. But it is very likely I will be put in serious danger if I have an IV and if I pass out looking at the IV. What if I am walking around and suddenly remember it is there and pass out and fall, hitting my head or falling on the baby? I cannot avoid looking at the spot the IV is (even if it is covered I know it is there) and I cannot avoid thinking about it throughout labor.

I plan to politely and firmly ask to be not be IV/Heplocked until something seems wrong, but if I am denied access to L&D - as the Dr. claimed I would be -even after being polite, what am I to do except labor in the lobby? I won't go home, because if I go home then I am refusing care instead of the hospital refusing to care for me. If I go home, the hospital is off the hook. If I stay, they will quickly make an exception and let me into L&D. Or, I will labor in the lobby and sue the hospital for denying me care. (This just will not happen. The hospital will admit me sans HepLock.) I know it is not ideal to make a scene, and perhaps it is a bit immature but it is 100% illogical of the hospital to force an IV on me after I have told them of my history of fainting. Again, I have to do everything I can to protect myself. And last commenter, I really doubt another patient could sue me for making a scene.

Now if something is amiss with my labor, I understand I will need an IV. I am afraid of IVs the way some people are deathly frightened of spiders. But if an arachnophobe is being chased by a lion she would not slow down to avoid some spiderwebs, if that makes any sense.

I will go tomorrow to the doctor and find out what the verdict is, I asked her to look into the policy and see if in my case I can skip the IV/HepLock considering my past history. If she didn't I will go up the chain of command.

Again I am really shocked that other people are not flabbergasted at the policy of the hospital as it was stated to me. The thread I started was just to share the craziness of mindless medical protocol, and to vent about my relationship to it. I decided that when faced with mindless policy I must plan to fight back with a level of drama and silliness to match. I didn't post here to be attacked by defenders of BigMedical. It saddens me to think that so many people would just submit to whatever a hospital or doctor wanted, even if it was not in their best interest and it is a shame that people would suggest that I knowingly endanger myself to avoid upsetting a few other people.

Due to the many very negative responses I won't be posting here again. Thank you all for the positive advice I did receive.

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Old 03-18-2013, 01:31 PM   #32
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I know you said you wouldn't be back. But please understand that you posted looking for a lawyer when nothing has happened and you plan to walk into the hospital in an adversarial manner. Yes, they will likely admit you without the IV. However, I wouldn't worry about passing out walking the halls. If I had a patient come in with a history of passing out from the sight of medical interventions, you would be put on bed rest as a fall risk. It wouldn't be punitive, but for your safety and baby's safety. If you threw a big enough fit at the hospital, BehMed would get involved and you may well buy yourself a medical hold in which case you would not have a legal right to refuse intervention, including that iV.

I would calm down, stop worrying about lawyering up and plan to walk int L&D being reasonable and polite to those who will be caring for you. You get more flies with honey.
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You do realize they aren't going to ask you in the hallway if you want an IV or not? Fill out your paperwork ahead of time, stay home as long as possible and when you get In the room tell them you don't want an IV because it makes you pass out, allow them to give you the warning speech, decline again, push baby out. This really isn't a big deal.
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Threatening you with a c section is extreme. But so is planning a tantrum if you don't get your way. If you fear fainting while walking then don't go anywhere without your DH
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I have asked for an IV this time, since I had a bad bleed last time. But, the Nurse said it isn't normal protocol in my hospital. But, she also offered to cover it up with a large bandage if I didn't want to look at it. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to look at it, or that it will be used for anything. It's doesn't bother me at all, but I totally get your point and concern. Maybe ask if they can conceal it for you?
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I suspect they will admit me to L&D without a heplock when the day comes. No need for drama, but I have it planned if I need it.

I don't really know what else to do. I have passed out twice looking at my own IV, and once I nearly fainted visiting a friend with an IV and way too many other tubes. Other than these occasions, I have never fainted. I am shocked the commenters are so concerned with the opinions of onlookers. Why on earth should I risk my labor to spare a few other people I don't know the trauma of seeing me in distress? Would you risk your health and baby to avoid making a small scene? I wouldn't and I won't. Shall I just submit to whatever the hospital wants, even if it will put me in danger? If you don't fight for what you want, you get whatever scraps life throws you. If I don't do everything I can, and then I faint and wake up maimed by a C-section it will be my own fault and I would more easily forgive myself causing a ruckus than forgive myself for doing nothing, submitting to mindless policy and wake up C-sectioned.

I know a home birth at this point is not possible as I have not prepared for it and beyond that I don't want one. I *want* access to medical care if I need it in an emergency. But it is very likely I will be put in serious danger if I have an IV and if I pass out looking at the IV. What if I am walking around and suddenly remember it is there and pass out and fall, hitting my head or falling on the baby? I cannot avoid looking at the spot the IV is (even if it is covered I know it is there) and I cannot avoid thinking about it throughout labor.

I plan to politely and firmly ask to be not be IV/Heplocked until something seems wrong, but if I am denied access to L&D - as the Dr. claimed I would be -even after being polite, what am I to do except labor in the lobby? I won't go home, because if I go home then I am refusing care instead of the hospital refusing to care for me. If I go home, the hospital is off the hook. If I stay, they will quickly make an exception and let me into L&D. Or, I will labor in the lobby and sue the hospital for denying me care. (This just will not happen. The hospital will admit me sans HepLock.) I know it is not ideal to make a scene, and perhaps it is a bit immature but it is 100% illogical of the hospital to force an IV on me after I have told them of my history of fainting. Again, I have to do everything I can to protect myself. And last commenter, I really doubt another patient could sue me for making a scene.

Now if something is amiss with my labor, I understand I will need an IV. I am afraid of IVs the way some people are deathly frightened of spiders. But if an arachnophobe is being chased by a lion she would not slow down to avoid some spiderwebs, if that makes any sense.

I will go tomorrow to the doctor and find out what the verdict is, I asked her to look into the policy and see if in my case I can skip the IV/HepLock considering my past history. If she didn't I will go up the chain of command.

Again I am really shocked that other people are not flabbergasted at the policy of the hospital as it was stated to me. The thread I started was just to share the craziness of mindless medical protocol, and to vent about my relationship to it. I decided that when faced with mindless policy I must plan to fight back with a level of drama and silliness to match. I didn't post here to be attacked by defenders of BigMedical. It saddens me to think that so many people would just submit to whatever a hospital or doctor wanted, even if it was not in their best interest and it is a shame that people would suggest that I knowingly endanger myself to avoid upsetting a few other people.

Due to the many very negative responses I won't be posting here again. Thank you all for the positive advice I did receive.
Your temper tantrum will distract care providers who could be providing others with life saving care. Your tantrum will affect others delivering babies nearby - or even far away depending on how dramatic you are. Planning to be loud and obnoxious at a hospital is the same as planning to negatively affect others medical care. Risking the health of others is NOT cool!

The medical protocol is not mindless. It is in place to facilitate them in providing immediate life saving care in case of an emergency. However, I believe it is everyone's right to make informed medical decisions & refuse to have safeguards in place that can save both you & your baby. But, your decisions don't sound rational or informed.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:35 AM   #37
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Anyone can sue anyone. I believe you are wondering if someone could win such a suit against you. The answer is yes - if your premeditated scene interrupts or distracts from someone else's medical care that person or family would win a law suit against you.
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