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Old 09-19-2007, 05:47 AM   #21
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OP - I'd be fuming mad, too. I called the CEO of the hospital where my DD was born b/c they did the PKU test on her before we left the hospital WITHOUT telling me that it was an invalid test before 48 hrs post partum. I had to repeat it the next day at the ped. I was SO mad!!! It might be easiest for you to contact the CEO of the hospital so that he/she can blanket all of the doctors allowed to practice at that hospital w/ the correct information.

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Old 05-08-2008, 03:24 PM   #22
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Hi Mama's! I'm so happy that I found this link.

I've been having some problems with my 2 1/2 yr old son. Here is his history. Born at 32 weeks(but he's fine). Intact penis. Had neutropenia until he was 2 (blood disorder involving white blood cells). After 2 UTI's (which I gave him accidentally using fragranced bubble bath--I didn't know!!), the Dr sent him in for a kidney test and they found slight..I repeat very slight reflux in his left kidney. A year later we had him retested and the reflux was the same, no better, no worse (that was about 9 months ago). Then, about 1 month ago I gave him another UTI in the bathtub (I know, I know...I didn't mean too - he was pulling on his penis so I rolled it back a bit.)

Anyways, so I brought him into the ER b/c he was complaining that his "pee-pee hurt". It also looked pretty red and kind of like a little rash was forming. He was also erect for like 3 hrs b/c he didn't want to urinate. The Dr. told me that we needed to get "the little anteater trimmed" and he made us an appt. the next morning for a urologist. The urologist looked at him for about 1 minute, told me that the small white ring around the tip of his penis when pulled back meant that he had phimosis and he needed a circumcision immediately b/c of his past infections.

When I brought up the idea of using an alternative treatment to surgery such as the topical ointment, he told me that I had offended him and he was the Specialist, he knows what is best...circumcision in 2 weeks.

Anyways...what I am wondering is if anyone has dealt with similar circumstances like these? I've cancelled his surgery and put in a referral to get a second opinion, but the nearest pediatric urologist is in Jacksonville and their first available appt is September 2008. Yikes...

Any herbal or home remedies that I could try? I'm really opposed to circumcision, it seems brutal and barbaric. However, is there a time when we should listen to the Dr. and get a circ? I don't want my son in pain, but...

Oh.. also the Dr. told me to rub Neosporin with Pain Relief on his retracted penis. Does this sound crazy to anyone? Or is this good advice? I don't really want to peel it back at all...but I'll do anything to help him.

Sorry this is so long...I'm just lost!! I don't feel like I get any guidance from my pediatrician either. I was unhappy with my last one so we just switched to a new lady. I'm really not thrilled with her either...but we don't really have any other options in town.

Help please...if you can!
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:32 PM   #23
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Retracting can lead to adhesions and scarring and may require him to eventually BE circ'd, so leave it alone! Most boys are able to retract their own when they're older, and until they try on their own, don't touch it. It needs no extra care then washing your elbow. Most peds are incredibly ignorant about uncirc'd and that's the main reason why being uncirc'd has risks, because of bad advice and damage caused for no reason. I had a resource thread about circ'ing and said to wash it with soap and water, and a proffesional from doctors opposing circ found it and told me even soap can disturb the natural flora and isn't necessary for proper hygiene.
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And to the pp, don't get him circ'd just because of that, he's not having infections on his own, he had it because of irritating products used. If he has sensitivity to products, try all natural products and leave the bubble bath out.

Oh, and the erect, not able to pee thing, my son had that once too and it went away on it's own after a day and never flared up again. I didn't need to do anything to it.

do NOT retract it, and do NOT put anything on it when it's retracted. Just leave it alone and don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. A parent should never try to retract it, a son will be able to do it on their own when they're older and then they can work on it, because they can guage if what is happening hurts or not and the limit to how far back it can go. A parent can't guage that, so you could by retracting be breaking the seal that's supposed to be there and causing damage without knowing it. Get a second opinion, and write the Doctors Opposing Circ for advice, they're really knowledgable and have always been amazingly helpful, they really care and know what they're talking about.
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Find another way. It seems from their statements that the two doctors you've encountered are extremely circ-happy. Ask on MDC www.mothering.com/discussions They have a circumcision (or anti-circ) board and can put you in contact with foreskin friendly docs. I had the link but just deleted it last week! *doh* It's how we found our Ped!
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Find another way. It seems from their statements that the two doctors you've encountered are extremely circ-happy. Ask on MDC www.mothering.com/discussions They have a circumcision (or anti-circ) board and can put you in contact with foreskin friendly docs. I had the link but just deleted it last week! *doh* It's how we found our Ped!
I'll second that, the doctor definitely sounds circ-happy, and MDC rocks for info on intact care
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Hi Mama's! I'm so happy that I found this link.

I've been having some problems with my 2 1/2 yr old son. Here is his history. Born at 32 weeks(but he's fine). Intact penis. Had neutropenia until he was 2 (blood disorder involving white blood cells). After 2 UTI's (which I gave him accidentally using fragranced bubble bath--I didn't know!!), the Dr sent him in for a kidney test and they found slight..I repeat very slight reflux in his left kidney. A year later we had him retested and the reflux was the same, no better, no worse (that was about 9 months ago). Then, about 1 month ago I gave him another UTI in the bathtub (I know, I know...I didn't mean too - he was pulling on his penis so I rolled it back a bit.)

Anyways, so I brought him into the ER b/c he was complaining that his "pee-pee hurt". It also looked pretty red and kind of like a little rash was forming. He was also erect for like 3 hrs b/c he didn't want to urinate. The Dr. told me that we needed to get "the little anteater trimmed" and he made us an appt. the next morning for a urologist. The urologist looked at him for about 1 minute, told me that the small white ring around the tip of his penis when pulled back meant that he had phimosis and he needed a circumcision immediately b/c of his past infections.

When I brought up the idea of using an alternative treatment to surgery such as the topical ointment, he told me that I had offended him and he was the Specialist, he knows what is best...circumcision in 2 weeks.

Anyways...what I am wondering is if anyone has dealt with similar circumstances like these? I've cancelled his surgery and put in a referral to get a second opinion, but the nearest pediatric urologist is in Jacksonville and their first available appt is September 2008. Yikes...

Any herbal or home remedies that I could try? I'm really opposed to circumcision, it seems brutal and barbaric. However, is there a time when we should listen to the Dr. and get a circ? I don't want my son in pain, but...

Oh.. also the Dr. told me to rub Neosporin with Pain Relief on his retracted penis. Does this sound crazy to anyone? Or is this good advice? I don't really want to peel it back at all...but I'll do anything to help him.

Sorry this is so long...I'm just lost!! I don't feel like I get any guidance from my pediatrician either. I was unhappy with my last one so we just switched to a new lady. I'm really not thrilled with her either...but we don't really have any other options in town.

Help please...if you can!
So he has had 3 infections, 2 of which you know were caused by bath products and the urologist claims he needs a circ for phimosis at 2.5yrs of age? And in all this he is telling you to retract your child and that there is no other treatment for phimosis? Is that covering the gist of it? You should never retract him, as lots of pp's have said, no reason for anyone other than your son to retract his forskin. At 2.5yrs there is no way to diagnosis phimosis as it is not uncommon for a forskin to not retract until puberty or even later. In fact some men will never retract and still not have actual phimosis. Is anything else going on other than a couple of infections which you know were caused by outside factors? If not leave him alone. If you are really really concerned that something might be up it is worth it to find a good forskin friendly dr (and mothering.com is the best place to find a good one) and go out of your way to see him/her once just to make sure. That way you know. It may be a pain in the butt to do, but a long trip and a bit of extra cash to get the all clear beats the heck out of an unnecessary circ. And it will put your mind at ease. Then you can blow off the idiots when they tell you this crap.
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Anyways, so I brought him into the ER b/c he was complaining that his "pee-pee hurt". It also looked pretty red and kind of like a little rash was forming. He was also erect for like 3 hrs b/c he didn't want to urinate. The Dr. told me that we needed to get "the little anteater trimmed" and he made us an appt. the next morning for a urologist.
Good Lord, could he trivialize circumcision a little more? Way to make it sound like it'll be happy fun time, doc. That crap drives me nuts
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Hi Mama's! I'm so happy that I found this link.

I've been having some problems with my 2 1/2 yr old son. Here is his history. Born at 32 weeks(but he's fine). Intact penis. Had neutropenia until he was 2 (blood disorder involving white blood cells). After 2 UTI's (which I gave him accidentally using fragranced bubble bath--I didn't know!!), the Dr sent him in for a kidney test and they found slight..I repeat very slight reflux in his left kidney. A year later we had him retested and the reflux was the same, no better, no worse (that was about 9 months ago). Then, about 1 month ago I gave him another UTI in the bathtub (I know, I know...I didn't mean too - he was pulling on his penis so I rolled it back a bit.)

Anyways, so I brought him into the ER b/c he was complaining that his "pee-pee hurt". It also looked pretty red and kind of like a little rash was forming. He was also erect for like 3 hrs b/c he didn't want to urinate. The Dr. told me that we needed to get "the little anteater trimmed" and he made us an appt. the next morning for a urologist. The urologist looked at him for about 1 minute, told me that the small white ring around the tip of his penis when pulled back meant that he had phimosis and he needed a circumcision immediately b/c of his past infections.

When I brought up the idea of using an alternative treatment to surgery such as the topical ointment, he told me that I had offended him and he was the Specialist, he knows what is best...circumcision in 2 weeks.

Anyways...what I am wondering is if anyone has dealt with similar circumstances like these? I've cancelled his surgery and put in a referral to get a second opinion, but the nearest pediatric urologist is in Jacksonville and their first available appt is September 2008. Yikes...

Any herbal or home remedies that I could try? I'm really opposed to circumcision, it seems brutal and barbaric. However, is there a time when we should listen to the Dr. and get a circ? I don't want my son in pain, but...

Oh.. also the Dr. told me to rub Neosporin with Pain Relief on his retracted penis. Does this sound crazy to anyone? Or is this good advice? I don't really want to peel it back at all...but I'll do anything to help him.

Sorry this is so long...I'm just lost!! I don't feel like I get any guidance from my pediatrician either. I was unhappy with my last one so we just switched to a new lady. I'm really not thrilled with her either...but we don't really have any other options in town.

Help please...if you can!
how long after the third uti did you make the trip to the ER? are the 2 unrelated? im thinking if the uti is completely cleared up then he may just be starting the separation process. some little guys get redness and it can hurt to pee when this happens. i don't have personal experience with this as my boys are not retractable yet, but lots of times it is recommended to have him pee in a cup of warm water or in the bath. the urine can sometimes sting the areas of the penis that are newly separated. it doesn't usually last more than a couple days as far as i've read.

you can give let him have a soak in the tub with some tto in the water and that will help clear up anything that's rash like.

and *PLEASE* don't rub neosporin on his glans!!!! i can't imagine that. besides, its not supposed to be used internally--i am pretty sure its a topical only.

what an @ss-hat.


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