Reply Hey Mom! Learn more about the Gerber Life Insurance Grow-Up Plan!
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-12-2006, 10:31 AM   #21
naturegirl7
Registered Users
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 392
My Mood:
Re: Can you stop vax if you already gave them previously

Since your DD is autistic - there is no way I would let DS get the MMR if I were you. Boys blood-brain barriers are even more permiable than girls - which is why there are so many male autistic children compared to female autistic children.

Trust your gut on this mama - IMO, it is right. Go to www.mothering.com and go to their vaxing forum - lots of great info, links, resources, etc. They also have links to exemption papers - which you will need to get into order. I would BEFORE going to the ped, and hand them to the ped when he starts pressuring you into the shots.

ANd to answer the immunity question - kids immune systems are stronger and it is lifelong when they naturally acquire the antibiodies.

plus you need to consider that vax are not effective for everyone who recieves them - hence why they are given several times initially and then given every 5-10 years as boosters. The MMR is the LEAST effective of all the vaxes (about 85% effective). This is why pregnant women are tested for immunity (the MMR titer) - cuz many women will not be immune to it, despite having all their boosters, leaving them and their babies at risk for problems.

As for the other stuff - polio has been eradicated in the US. The CDC has actually been debating taking it off the schedule of immunizations, but decided that since it is still in third world countries we still need it here. Unless you travel to a third world country, your child has basically no real chance of ever coming in contact with polio virus.

DTP - diptheria, tetanus, and pertussis - These are more of a tisk for YOUNG babies. The chance of a child older than a year getting pertussis (whooping cough) and having an serious problems as a result is unlikely. Diptheria - the biggest problem with diptheria is dehydration. A big problem is YOUNG infants. Tetanus boosters can be given in the event of needing them - like stepping on a rusty nail, etc. Even if your boosters are up to date - they usually give an extra tetanus booster anyway.

The flu and pneumonia are primarily problems in young (at risk) infants again. Initially they were intended for babies with respiratory problems like RSV and asthma - but now they are standard for all. But honestly - if you take care of your child, keep them hydrated, monitor fevers, etc then the flu is not a dangerous thing for a healthy child. Plus, keep in mind that there are many many strains of the flu, and this is the one they "think" will be the worst this year.

Hepatitis B - this is sexually transmitted or transmitted via IV needles. Unless your babe is having unprotected sex or using IV drug needles - or could be around IV drug needles, this is not necessary.

Chickenpox - Fatalities occur not from the virus itself, but from the lesions becoming infected. Keeping kids clean, not scratching - this prevents a secondary infection, and thus prevents complications. I survived having the chickenpox, and I am just fine. This is another one of those things they screen pregnant women for due to the complications it can cause.

I think I covered all the vaxes - those are all the ones I remember offhand - and this is info I was given by my nursing intructors. Not "don't vax" on their part but a "realistic" look at the drawbacks/limitations of vaxing so that we could push for kids to get all their boosters as they get older ("push" is their words, not mine). It is the medical standpoint that since vaxes are not 100% effective and do wear off, they are very very important to get and maintain on a regular basis.

I hope that information helps a bit. Feel free to PM and do check out mothering.com!

Advertisement

naturegirl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2006, 10:39 AM   #22
naturegirl7
Registered Users
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 392
My Mood:
Re: Can you stop vax if you already gave them previously

Quote:
Originally Posted by teresaarrington View Post
One more thing, if you stop, it is like getting half of the flu shot-no good. You are having them get poked for no reason. I say either do it all the way or not at all. No unnessecary pain.

this actually is not true. Some kids can get immunity after one shot, some don't get it after all three and the periodic boosters.

The repeated shots initially is to "maximize" the effectiveness of the vax. The belief is that repeated and frequent initial exposure will encourage the body to accept the artificial immunity.


and IMO, risking another child getting autism because of the small chance of getting any of the three MMR diseases - that is unnecessary pain. Long linger, life altering pain for your child, and your family.
naturegirl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2006, 10:45 AM   #23
jenn5388's Avatar
jenn5388
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 4,406
My Mood:
Re: Can you stop vax if you already gave them previously

Quote:
Originally Posted by teresaarrington View Post
Of course you can stop, but it is really unnessecary because if they haven't showed bad reactions yet (other than autism), most likely they aren't going to. I was going to stop dd's shots, but when I realized that she already had 2 doses and was fine, I kept on with it. It is for her own protection. I am a pro-vax mom after a lot of consideration, please do not judge my opinion.

One more thing, if you stop, it is like getting half of the flu shot-no good. You are having them get poked for no reason. I say either do it all the way or not at all. No unnessecary pain.
My thoery is, You're having them poked for no reason already? why continue?

You know some kids don't show Allergies when they having something for the first time, this is why you keep them on the same food for a week to make sure they aren't having any reaction to it. I feel the same about vaccinations. Just because they haven't had a reaction so far, doesn't mean they won't. I know plenty that had no problems with vaccines up to a certain age. I've heard of teenagers that got boosters and DIED right there in the doctors office! they were fully Vaccinated.

I can't help but be shocked by the PP's first line there. Your children haven't reacted so far, well besides the Autism! lol That's enough to make me back off.

I wish you luck.
__________________
Jennifer; Mom to:
Miranda Isabel(ASD/Anxiety/ODD/SPD) (10) Jacob David(Anxiety/SPD)(6)
& Levi Alexander(ASD/Anxiety/SPD) (3)
jenn5388 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Copyright 2005 - 2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.