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Old 11-10-2006, 08:49 AM   #61
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mama just remember God has punishments for all stupid things like this ......its called massive engorgement Let her feel like her boobies are gonna explode and then see what she thinks about it all

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Old 11-10-2006, 09:18 AM   #62
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mama just remember God has punishments for all stupid things like this ......its called massive engorgement Let her feel like her boobies are gonna explode and then see what she thinks about it all

That's uncalled for......and if you are a christian using God that way, you should be ashamed. YOu don't even know the situation, that is just some person's take on the situation, you don't even know the whole story. Judge lest YE be judged.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:25 AM   #63
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Wow, after reading through this entire thread (and having to log back in because I get timed out from reading long threads, just to get to the second page) I have to admit to having used a small portion of this Ezzo method without realizing it. I can honestly say I was one of those mama's that didn't read a single "how to" book before my first was born. I was too busy in the Army, working with my DH's deployment schedule and him being gone alot, blah blah blah. When #1 was born, my DH was home for the first 10 days then gone off and on for the next 11 months (for a total of 10 months). Having to go back to work by week 6 and feeling like a single mother alot, yeah... a routine was massively so important it wasn't funny.

And by what you've described e_mom_e... that's exactly what I did! I'm just amazed because sometimes it comes to moms naturally to do this and anyone would pretty much be waiting to have a cold day in hell if they wanted to tell me I did something wrong with my child. She's a well adjusted, healthy eating, well sleeping elementary aged child now.

To another poster that mentioned a mama didn't want her child to get fat... sad to say but I know a few mama's like that. Makes me so sick. The SIL of my best friend has a daughter the same age as my middle one and I remember linking up with this woman (not my BF) and her DH was giving their daughter Fruit Loops. She asked him "How many have you given her?" and he goes "I don't know but she's eating them. When she's full, she'll stop." and she nearly flipped! She goes "I only give her 10! I don't want her fat!!!! How could you!" I nearly choked on my own breakfast and had to refrain from making some super smart aleck responses.

What works for some families won't work for others. Everyone, at all levels, needs to respect that.
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To another poster that mentioned a mama didn't want her child to get fat... sad to say but I know a few mama's like that. Makes me so sick. The SIL of my best friend has a daughter the same age as my middle one and I remember linking up with this woman (not my BF) and her DH was giving their daughter Fruit Loops. She asked him "How many have you given her?" and he goes "I don't know but she's eating them. When she's full, she'll stop." and she nearly flipped! She goes "I only give her 10! I don't want her fat!!!! How could you!" I nearly choked on my own breakfast and had to refrain from making some super smart aleck responses.
And people wonder why there are so many people with eating disorders of varying sorts... whether its anorexia, bulimia, compulsive overeating, etc.
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:42 PM   #65
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ok, i DO NOT disagree w/schedules....what i don't think is right is forcing one on a nb. but if it works for some more power to you.
but obviously some have taken this book and run w/the idea instead of letting mothers instinct lead part of the way....does that make sense? theres my concern.


and yes mama you were very tactful. and i see where your example set me off...i was in a vcery crabby mood when i came back to this thread...i apologize
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ok, i DO NOT disagree w/schedules....what i don't think is right is forcing one on a nb. but if it works for some more power to you.
but obviously some have taken this book and run w/the idea instead of letting mothers instinct lead part of the way....does that make sense? theres my concern.


and yes mama you were very tactful. and i see where your example set me off...i was in a vcery crabby mood when i came back to this thread...i apologize
Hey it's ok, no hard feelings. I do understand the reason this topic upsets you, there may be more to this situation with your friend. But I just wanted to give you some info about the whole philosophy itself because I believe in it so much.
I can see what you mean about the newborn thing, but what you really should know is that we aren't "forcing" anything. The thing is MOST newborns have to be waken to eat anyway. most of the time they don't wake themselves often enough. So basically the only thing I am doing is waking him at the same time intervals so that he regulates his eating patterns to the timing. NICU's in every hospital do it the same way all over the world with their babies. In the newborn stage, it is more likely you will feed him earlier rather than too late. You NEVER make the baby WAIT for their food, that's not how this works. YOu just tweak the schedule. AFter a few weeks, the baby is so predictable and they are like clockwork when they are going to be hungry or tired. It's AWESOME knowing when your baby is going to need something before he even asks, then when he asks you answer right away with exactly what he needs, without having to guess what it is he might need. for the sleeping through the night, it's all about putting them to sleep on their own so they know how to fall asleep without a boob in their mouth, and when the sleep cycles change they can resettle themselves without a sound. The night feedings continue until the BABY no longer wakes for a feeding. At first you wake the baby for those feedings regardless. THen you allow the baby to wake you if he's hungry. My son dropped all his night feedings one at a time, by 11 weeks. PRETTY COOL HUH! ANd I didn't force a single thing on him. And I used my complete mother's instinct the whole time, if something didnt' feel right or wasn't working out as the book said it would, I did what I needed to make things work for US not the BOOK.
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