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Old 02-27-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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Slightly confused on ALR and ELR with seatbelt installation...

So we are obviously going to be switching to seat belt installation when I move the kids seats this weekend to install the infant seat. The girls will be in the third row in our Nissan Quest 2011. There *is* LATCH on that row, but with the new guidelines we'll use seatbelt.

So I was reading the manual and it says not to use ELR but to use ALR. Isn't ALR where you pull the belt ALL the way out until it stops, then ratchets back in? That is my understanding anyway.

Also, I'd love to put them middle and driver side 3rd row, but the driver side 3rd row seat doesn't have an top tether anchor. Grrrrr. Why on earth would you put on on the middle and passenger side third row but not that other position?

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Old 02-27-2013, 08:14 PM   #2
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Re: Slightly confused on ALR and ELR with seatbelt installation...

Yes, ALR belts are the ones you pull all the way out and then they "click" back in, only unlocking (to be pulled freely) when they're nearly all the way back in.
ELR belts only lock in the event of an accident (or really fast/hard braking, kwim?).
But if the vehicle doesn't have ALR belts, they usually (always?) have locking latch plates - the belt is "locked" at the buckle itself, like every lap-only belt does.

About the tether anchor not on the one side - I'm wondering if that spot was not allowed because of proximity to the gas tank? They have to drill through and put the tether anchor in the floor in some vehicles, so if the gas tank is right there they wouldn't be able to, kwim?
Though if the anchors are just on the backs of the seats... !!
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:56 PM   #3
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Re: Slightly confused on ALR and ELR with seatbelt installation...

In all honesty, you're lucky you have two TT anchors in your 3rd row. Most people have only one. My Explorer has TTs in all the seating positions in the 2nd row with lower anchors outboard and the third row (2 seats) has latch on the passenger side and no TT on the driver's side.

As far as the seat belts go, you probably have switchable retractors in all the seating positions except for the driver's seat. Simply pull the shoulder belt out gently until you run out of belt, switching the retractor. You should hear clicks as you feed it back in to the retractor. The belt has now been switched to ALR mode. I don't recall Nissan as being one of the manufacturers that uses locking latch plates but if your belt will not switch at the retractor, test for a locking latch plate by buckling and trying to pull on the lap portion. If you cannot pull slack in the lap portion, then the belt has a locking latch plate and all you would have to do is tighten the belt as the latch plate would do the locking for you. Clear as mud?
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:05 AM   #4
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Re: Slightly confused on ALR and ELR with seatbelt installation...

Thanks guys. I figured that was what the manual was saying! Just wanted to make sure. The seat belts DO have ALR I know as I've tried that before with pulling them all out. The manual doesn't say anything about a locking plate.

The TT in the 3rd row are on the back of the seats. I guess I'll just have them next to each other and hope they don't try to kill each other.

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