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Old 10-25-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
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Of all things to "cure" my yeast pain

I've struggled and struggled with yeast on my nipples through all my kids. It took 2 nursing experiences (3 kids) to get it properly diagnosed. It ended my nursing relationship early with my first because the pain was so severe and "unexplained." It also contributed to ending my 2 and 3rd nursing experiences (2 sets of twins), but I made it to 16 months, nursing through pain almost the whole time. Even though I now know what the pain comes from I've not been able to get it under control. I've tried just about everything including many long term rounds of diflucan. Somethings work for a few weeks, but it always comes back.

I had my baby almost 2wks ago now. The pain started within the first couple of days and was very clearly yeast. I realized what it was right away and went to my OB. She gave me a "long" course of diflucan (14 days). I'm on day.....8 or 9. I don't cry every time he latches on anymore, but it still hurts a lot.

I got desperate. Last night, I pulled out the external cream from a box of over the counter Monistat for a vaginal yeast infection. I started putting it on my nips after every single nursing session. By this morning, the pain is almost gone! They are still bright red, but he can nurse and it doesn't hurt much at all. I'm so excited. Next time I have an appt with my OB (in 2wks), I'm going to ask for some strong topical Nystatin or similar (Miconazole if I can get it because that is what is in what I'm using.)

After all these years, I found an overnight "cure" in the most "unlikely" place! I hope it lasts.

(I put cure in quotes because I'm not convinced it is going to actually be a cure.)

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:28 PM   #2
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Ah, yeast. Yes. I had surface and ductal yeast with DS. I was on a crazy regiment to keep it down!

I did a vinegar wipe after each session with covered my nips with a yeast cream as well (suggested to me by an LC- its a great trick) and was on 28 days of Diflucan for the ductal yeast. It was horrible!

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Re: Of all things to "cure" my yeast pain

Oh man, I am SO sorry that it took so long to find something for you. It's a shame that no one thought to suggest something similar before! Man, I don't know that I could have nursed through that kind of pain for so long.
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Google Dr Jack Newman's All Purpose Nipple Ointment. That stuff is amazing!

I can completely relate to crying in pain for months every time the baby latched. I was so glad I only battled this with my second - if it had happened with my first I might have gone to formula and never gone back.

I'm so glad to hear you are getting some relief. But seriously, google this cream. It had the same ingredient plus two others and it is amazing stuff.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:48 PM   #5
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Ah, yeast. Yes. I had surface and ductal yeast with DS. I was on a crazy regiment to keep it down!

I did a vinegar wipe after each session with covered my nips with a yeast cream as well (suggested to me by an LC- its a great trick) and was on 28 days of Diflucan for the ductal yeast. It was horrible!

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I have both as well, but the surface is far worse for me. I can feel it in my ducts too though. I'm planning to ask for another, longer course of diflucan at my next appt along with the topical. What did you use topically? I'm thinking this isn't going to be strong enough to keep it at bay for very long. Next time I go to the store, I'm planning to get the actual vaginal cream which has a higher concentration of meds. I definitely may try the vinegar wipe. I need to get more because I used it all in my last load of yeasty laundry. Ugh! I hate yeast!!

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Oh man, I am SO sorry that it took so long to find something for you. It's a shame that no one thought to suggest something similar before! Man, I don't know that I could have nursed through that kind of pain for so long.

Thanks. I'm very stubborn. Many people have told me to stop in the past including at least 2 LC's. I had other struggles along with the yeast. But, I just can't bring myself to stop. Everyday I tell myself, just one more day and if I have to I say, just one more nursing session. I try never to think about nursing long term because the thought of this pain day after day over and over for 16 months is over-whelming. So, while I totally plan to go as long, I just don't think about it.
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Google Dr Jack Newman's All Purpose Nipple Ointment. That stuff is amazing!

I can completely relate to crying in pain for months every time the baby latched. I was so glad I only battled this with my second - if it had happened with my first I might have gone to formula and never gone back.

I'm so glad to hear you are getting some relief. But seriously, google this cream. It had the same ingredient plus two others and it is amazing stuff.
I know exactly what you are talking about (who has seriously battled yeast and not read Dr. Newman's protocol a million times? , but how do you actually go about getting it compounded? Do you need a prescription? Thanks!

ETA - I just looked again. It looks like I would need a prescription from my OB. I'll bring this with me when I go and see if she'll prescribe this. She has been very good so far, but I have had issues in the past getting OB's to treat properly for yeast on the nips. But, I'm sure you know that it can be tough. It's bad enough that it's so hard to fight but getting an OB to help is just adds more difficulty.
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A change in diet and high dosage probiotics really helped me. The probiotics were at 60 billion active cultures. I did that for 1 month after on/off battle for 2 years. Jack Newman's APNO only kept it at bay, but the probiotics knocked it out. I've been nursing for 55 months straight now, 30 of those 100% yeast free!
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The nystatin is definitely a good idea to keep on hand to treat baby, too. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting it (pass it back and forth if you're not both treated). I can totally sympathize with the pain! Glad you found something that worked for you!
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I have both as well, but the surface is far worse for me. I can feel it in my ducts too though. I'm planning to ask for another, longer course of diflucan at my next appt along with the topical. What did you use topically? I'm thinking this isn't going to be strong enough to keep it at bay for very long. Next time I go to the store, I'm planning to get the actual vaginal cream which has a higher concentration of meds. I definitely may try the vinegar wipe. I need to get more because I used it all in my last load of yeasty laundry. Ugh! I hate yeast!!

Thanks. I'm very stubborn. Many people have told me to stop in the past including at least 2 LC's. I had other struggles along with the yeast. But, I just can't bring myself to stop. Everyday I tell myself, just one more day and if I have to I say, just one more nursing session. I try never to think about nursing long term because the thought of this pain day after day over and over for 16 months is over-whelming. So, while I totally plan to go as long, I just don't think about it.
I used the monastat for the topical. Oh and the recommended dose for ductal yeast is a minimum of 28 days or it can become resistant. If your doctor has a problem with prescibing that (mine did), find an LC that would be willing to fax him some info on it. Its a PITA but it needs to be. I cried for the first few months DS nursed. I know how horrible it is.

Try the vinegar rinse. Monastat topically and see if you can get on a longer dose of diflucan. Hopefully that will give you some relief!!!

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The nystatin is definitely a good idea to keep on hand to treat baby, too. Otherwise, you'll just keep getting it (pass it back and forth if you're not both treated). I can totally sympathize with the pain! Glad you found something that worked for you!
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Baby needs to be treated too or you'll just get it back!

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