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Old 02-19-2007, 11:09 PM   #11
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PWS babies are typically horible eaters.

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Old 02-19-2007, 11:12 PM   #12
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No experience here but did she even get a stomache ache from eating 6 of them?
Um, could she have a tapeworm. Sorry, watched the t.v. show "house" last week.
She didn't even flinch with eating all of those cupcakes.....and what a perfect logical consequence it would've been too!!

Ok, and I'm addicted to House...he's HOT!!!!! And I did see that episode, but I don't think she has a tapeworm?? I guess anything could be possible....we are so going to see the Dr....

.....Is it bad if I'm hoping they do bloodwork??....I'm really not wanting anything to be wrong with her, but maybe it would make her think a little bit before gobbling.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:24 PM   #13
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I just read an article in Child magazine about it today. The explanation fits my student perfectly, but prob. not you. I'll tell you what it said anyway--
Basically it says it's a survival mechanism in impoverished or neglectful areas. Also, it says food could symbolize nurturing to a child and she may be trying to make up for a deficit of that in her past. Some children who were deprived of either food or love may gorge until they vomit. It says to explain that she'll always have plenty of food and to give her a special place to keep food, such as her own Tupperware container or a personal shelf in the fridge for comfort. Heaping her w/ love and a stable routine, including chors and discipline when it's needed will reassure her the most. It says you may want to consult a children's behavior specialist because these issues can be difficult to address.
But in YOUR DD's case?
I, too, have heard of this...especially needed in some foster situation's when kids are coming into good homes for the first time. I wondered too if this is a behavioral response to something happening at home. We did just have a new baby, but this started before then. I did return to teaching this year too after taking a year off, but I only work half time (teach five days on, off for a week) and I've been out since before Thanksgiving on maternity leave and this started before I even returned to work. I am trying really hard lately to spend extra one on one time with her without a baby or brother distraction.....so we'll see how that goes. Thanks for reminding me of this though!!
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:31 AM   #14
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my daughter is four and doesnt do this. But my 14 yr old stepdaughter does. Her mom doesnt allow her any sweets such as candy or gum or soda (yet gives her koolaid) so when she comes here she hoards it. It has come down to we hide it all in the basement on her weekends b/c she cant control herself. But I see you let her have some so Im sure its a differnt thing. Hugs to you.
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See that's what I'm wondering too? Is this a delightful twist to turning four, or what's really going on here?? I think I will take her to the Dr. I had a long talk with her today to (in three year old terms) explain that I was worried about her eating all this sugar and discussed her papa and great grandma with diabetes. She did not like it one bit when I suggested going to the Dr. to have her checked out (she equates it with getting a shot due to her allergies). And she insisted that if she was hungry she would try to remember to come and ask for a snack. But, I swear, not even an hour later she had helped herself to Nerds (the candy) that I had put away to give to my tutoring students. Thanks for the advice mamas!
Maybe if you explain to her that because papa and great grandma have diabetes, then her eating too much sweets could cause her to get it which would require daily shots of insulin to keep her healthy. If she doesn't like shots, then that might work. . .
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Haven't you ever made cookies and told your kids they could only have a couple then after they went to bed ate all the rest of them? I can't possibly be the only one who has done this and had to make more so my kids didn't know I ate all the rest.

Maybe she just really likes the sweet stuff. It tastes good! I'd choose it over healthy stuff too if I didn't know it'd make me fatter. Sometimes I do anyways. She's only 4. There's no way she's going to understand the implications of diabetes. Eating lots of sugar now is not going to make her diabetic. Being overweight and building insulin resistance over time does, genetics does too. My kids sneak sweets because they know I wouldn't approve. I know they do it, I did it when I was a kid too. It doesn't mean there's necessarily anything wrong with them other than that they are impulsive and want to eat things that taste good before someone else eats them all or you tell her she can't have any more. I wouldn't be concerned. I might find a better hiding spot for sweets, especially the candy you keep for your tutoring kids. I keep it in a box high up in my bedroom closet or in the kitchen on top of the cabinets behind the crown molding. They'd never think to look there and can't reach anyways.
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She didn't even flinch with eating all of those cupcakes.....and what a perfect logical consequence it would've been too!!

Ok, and I'm addicted to House...he's HOT!!!!! And I did see that episode, but I don't think she has a tapeworm?? I guess anything could be possible....we are so going to see the Dr....

.....Is it bad if I'm hoping they do bloodwork??....I'm really not wanting anything to be wrong with her, but maybe it would make her think a little bit before gobbling.
I don't think its bad for you to want them to do some blood work. I don't think this a normal thing. My dd is 5. She does have spells where she will eat ALOT for a week or so, then back off again for awhile. But she never sneaks food and I can't imagine she could manage 6 cupcakes at one sitting.
I think that there are several physical reasons that need to be ruled out so I would definately take her to the doc. I am sure he can help you sort it out no matter what it is, behavioral or some medical condition.

I can tell you that my DH is a diabetic...type 1. Technically it is Juvenile Diabetes, although he was 24 when he got it. He was hungry ALL the time for months, just couldn't see to get enough. But it wasn't just sweets. But as he started getting sick, he started drinking LARGE amounts of water or anything he could drink and he peed buckets too. This went on for about 2 weeks, then one morning, I could barely wake him up. I had to physically pull my 6 foot 3 inch husband from the bed. I took him to the hospital and his blood sugar was 897 and he was in ketoacidosis. By the time they got him in, he was actually feeling ok, even as sick as he was. So diabetes can be a deceptive illness. He was very very sick, but didn't paticurlary feel as sick as he was.

My point being, that it is possible that her blood sugar is getting out of whack, but that she isn't at that "sick" point yet. Does that make sense? So, I would take her in, definately and talk about all of this with her doc. I am sure they will run some labs on her.

I hope you get her figured out soon.
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If it were me i would NOT PASS GO and definitely take her to the doctor; although i think that extreme thirst is the first sign of diabetes (but i'm not sure.) Anyway, in my opinion, if the behavior is really unusual she shouldn't be punished....just told to come and get you first....just my .02
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Ok, so here's my question....anyone else having or had similar issues with your kids? I'm wondering if this is something I need to have her Dr. look into, especially with family history of diabetes on both sides. I did ask her why she ate the cupcakes and she told me she was hungry.......I also don't want to push this off on the Dr. if it is a parenting thing that I need to be taking care of. But I don't sit back and let her get away with it.
I think regarding medical vs parenting issues....since this is strange behavior (and my first thought was blood sugar or PWS - although, I don't know much about either!)...I think it absolutely would not hurt to have her see the doctor (which I think you are already?)...and then if it's not a medical issue, you'll know that it's just something you need to figure out how to deal with. If it is a parenting issue, I don't think there is anything wrong with checking with a medical professional first, just to be sure..ya know? I just don't think you should feel bad at all for seeing a doc if it turns out to be just a behavior without medical reasoning.
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Maybe if you explain to her that because papa and great grandma have diabetes, then her eating too much sweets could cause her to get it which would require daily shots of insulin to keep her healthy. If she doesn't like shots, then that might work. . .
Tried that yesterday....this was actually my mom's thought too. Not to scare her, of course, but just make her aware.....she's VERY smart and understands WAAAY more than the average kid her age. Unfortunately, I thought things were resolved at least for a little while.....and then we had the incident with the Nerd's candy.....aaaaaaahhhhh!!
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