*GOOD UPDATE!!*Why won't anyone listen to me? Devastated.

[crunchymom2b]

Some of you may know about the "attacks" I've been having for the past year or so. Basically once per month I'd have terrible bouts of nausea, fatique, hot/cold flashes, dizziness, sometimes dry heaving, it was debilitating. I've seen every doctor- PCP, Midwife, Neurologist, Gastro...everything came back normal. There were a few wrong diagnosis here and there but my PCP is convinced it's a medication I'm taking. I know 100% it's not but there's not reasoning with him. I won't be seeing him again.

I had an inkling this was a hormone issue or related to Mirena. I had Mirena removed in March and did feel a bit better initially, but then noticed the attacks were a bit more frequent. I started charting in May and then we started TTC in June. From my charts I was able to see that my "attacks" would happen at the start and during my period, and sometimes during Ovulation. Basically whenever my temp would spike or drop. I also noticed that my LP were only 10 days, though my cycle was 28-30 days with O on CD18 or CD19.

These attacks aren't some little thing either. I ended up in the ER twice for the severe nausea and am prescribed Zofran and Phenergan. I began digging around the internet after our second cycle TTC failed (this will be our third month, DS took 2 cycles, with my O date the same, unsure of my LP as I only charted 1 month). My symptoms seem eerily similar to Estrogen Dominance/Low Progesterone. I ordered a BioIdentical Progesterone Cream from Amazon that had great reviews, hoping itwould help my symptoms and maybe help us conceive. It arrived though I held off on opening it as I had called my midwives office to maybe get tested first.

Almost done I promise!

Anyways, I called them on Thursday around 9am. Hadn't heard back by 1:30pm so I called back and was told the nurse gave my message to the on call midwife, but she was delivering a baby so I would get a call back soon. Still hadn't heard back by the next afternoon so I called again to give them my home number since I'd be home the rest of the day.

Today is Wednesday and I *just* got a call back. I explained everything to her and this is what she said:

her- "How do you know you're ovulating?"
me- "I'm temping, checking CM and CP, and using OPKs"
her- "Oh okay then. Did you have trouble conceiving your son?"
me- "No, it took 2 cycles. We're now on our 3rd"
her- "well, we typically wait 12 months before doing a work up. That's the average time to conceive, though sometimes it can be a little longer."
me- "Even with short LP?"
her- "yeah. Are you stilltaking Zofran & Phenergan?"
me- "Yes, only when needed"
her- "hmm, oooook. Good luck! bye!"

Is she serious? Could she at least act like my problems were somewhat important? I cannot go a year feeling like this. I hope the NPC will help and I hope we conceive soon as that should hopefully help my symptoms (or atleast I'll have a good reason to be nauseas!). Plus we just want another baby so badly it hurts. You guys knowhow that feels. I just feel like she brushed my concerns to the side. I would think they would want to eliminate any possible problems sooner rather than later. I know they can't do a fullwork up on every woman who doesn't get pregnant in2 months, but with my other symptoms I figured she'd atleast do a hormone test or something.

I'm just so broken. I thought a midwife of all people would be more understanding. I guess I'll be finding yet another midwife group. I just don't know where to go from here.

[lecialefty]

I know how hard it is to get people to listen to you. I don't know what else you can do besides find another provider that will listen. Praying you can find an answer soon - and have a sticky bean too.

[mamatoalys]

Midwives are experts in normal childbirth, even in the states with nurse midwvies they aren't trained or qualified to deal with issues like that. Although some midwives practice well woman care, its not really in their jurisdiction in most places. I think a physician is a better bet. Sorry about all your problems mama, hope you find someone to listen

[sassknuckles]

I'd talk to an OB or fertility specialist. Maybe they will hear your symptoms and a light bulb will go off and they will know what's going on. I'm sorry you're not being listened to.

[rosenfried2]

mama.. keep fighting, someone will listen to you. you know your body better than anyone and know when something is not right.

[lilbitcrunchy]

I do believe too it's probably outside of her knowledge. Although she should have just said that and not just brushed you off. I think a gynecologist could help.

[sasra_nu]

I agree - I've never been to a midwife but I don't think this is their area of expertise.

With a LP of 10 days, I think you should get your progesterone checked, especially with your other symptoms. Go to a regular OB or RE and ask if they would order the test.

I am also not sure if the cream will help... if it doesn't, a lot of women (myself included) are prescribed Prometrium during the 2WW while TTC to help with luteal phase issues.

Good luck mama

[happysmileylady]

First, I will say that if you suspect you have a fertility problem, it's an GYN or even more appropriately, a reproductive endocrinologist.

However, do be prepared for a brush off there too. Those folks deal with people who have tried to get pregnant for YEARS. And often times, an RE's goal is to get mamma pregnant, because usually that's mamma's goal. Which means that finding out WHY something is wrong isn't always top priority. Not to mention, from experience, women with secondary infertility tend to get even more of a brush off.

You have a few symptoms that MIGHT indicate a hormonal problem. And, you might be right. Or your doc might be right and it might be a med you are on. OR, it could be something totally different. Or, it could be different but related. The fact that you easily conceived your first and carried to term is a tick AWAY from your symptoms being tied towards your fertility.

But, even in 100% totally healthy women, with great timing, there's only a 25% chance of getting pg. There was a Discovery Channel special about sperm once...really, it's AMAZING anyone ever get's pregnant at all!

I am not trying to say that you don't have anything wrong or that she should have rudely brushed you off. What I am saying is that it's understandable that docs are going to look at what you are presenting-have easily gotten pg and carried to term before, have only tried for 2 months this time around, have charted 3 months know you are ovulating, have some nausea and other symptoms that might be hormonally related but might not be, and might have a short LP, with 2 out of 3 charts showing only 10 days (and looking at them, you first one might be a smidge iffy on the O date-software isn't perfect)-and essentially put you in the same category as every other woman who calls them up after trying for 2 months and wants a fertility work up.

[Beesgirl]

Maybe she didn't understand what you were asking...I'm not clear from your post. Are you trying to resolve the attacks or more worried about TTC and having a short LP? Sounds like two different issues to me. I agree with pp, though, I would speak to an OB before a midwife.

[CCRMSS]

I'm sorry! I agree with Beesgirl though, and she probably thought you were more concerned about fertility issues, in which case, being on month 3 is NOT something they're going to red flag. I would try talking to a midwife who also does womens well care or a doctor. Keep fighting! Hopefully you will see a difference with the progesterone cream. I know a lot of people who have had good luck with that.