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Old 09-16-2011, 02:59 AM   #11
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Re: Arsenic in Apple Juice!!! I am not kidding!

Hmm, there's arsenic in apple seeds too (orso I've ben told). Unfortunately if you reserach contaminated foods there's yucky stuff in everything these days (lead in rice, I mean really?).

The best thing you can do is to eat whole foods and buy them as locally as possible, preferably organic but even more importantly know your farmer. CSAs are great for this.

You might also want to watch foks over knives, it's a great documentary about food, available on netflix

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There are actually two forms of arsenic. Organic arsenic and inorganic arsenic. Organic arsenic exists in soil, and in most foods. It is really high in seafood. This kind of arsenic is non toxic to humans as we can not metabolize it and we pee it out. Inorganic arsenic is toxic becuase it invades our cells and rapidly causes cell death.

I find it hard to believe that the apple juice has inorganic arsenic, and I feel like Dr Oz is trying to create panic over a substance that is inert. Prop 65, the California law requiring labeling of unsafe levels of chemicals in food, does not have any limit for organic arsenic. Prop 65 is the highest standard we have in this country, they have to label very minute amounts of things like lead. If organic arsenic was a problem, I feel like Prop 65 would say so.
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There are actually two forms of arsenic. Organic arsenic and inorganic arsenic. Organic arsenic exists in soil, and in most foods. It is really high in seafood. This kind of arsenic is non toxic to humans as we can not metabolize it and we pee it out. Inorganic arsenic is toxic becuase it invades our cells and rapidly causes cell death.

I find it hard to believe that the apple juice has inorganic arsenic, and I feel like Dr Oz is trying to create panic over a substance that is inert. Prop 65, the California law requiring labeling of unsafe levels of chemicals in food, does not have any limit for organic arsenic. Prop 65 is the highest standard we have in this country, they have to label very minute amounts of things like lead. If organic arsenic was a problem, I feel like Prop 65 would say so.
This is what I understand it to be too. There is organic arsenic in apples and that is ok for us, it is the inorganic stuff (which from what I understand is not in the apple juice) that is harmful. I totally agree with the PP and will continue to give my girls apple juice. It seems to me (and I actually enjoy Dr. Oz and respect his opinion/research) that the difference in kinds of arsenic was not clearly defined and his research is not thorough or clear enough.
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There are actually two forms of arsenic. Organic arsenic and inorganic arsenic. Organic arsenic exists in soil, and in most foods. It is really high in seafood. This kind of arsenic is non toxic to humans as we can not metabolize it and we pee it out. Inorganic arsenic is toxic becuase it invades our cells and rapidly causes cell death.

I find it hard to believe that the apple juice has inorganic arsenic, and I feel like Dr Oz is trying to create panic over a substance that is inert. Prop 65, the California law requiring labeling of unsafe levels of chemicals in food, does not have any limit for organic arsenic. Prop 65 is the highest standard we have in this country, they have to label very minute amounts of things like lead. If organic arsenic was a problem, I feel like Prop 65 would say so.
Exactly!!!! I just moved away from CA and kinda miss all the signs and labels telling me everything and everywhere has been known to cause cancer in the state of CA
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Huh, I didn't know there were 2 different kinds of arsenic. Thanks for sharing that info!
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Re: Arsenic in Apple Juice!!! I am not kidding!

inorganic arsenic is found in pesticides (not in the US, but how many apples are imported nowadays!?!). Since apples are almost #1 on the pesticide residue list, well... you get my drift

the funniest thing about this all, the 'experts' on TV were saying 'there's more in cigarettes and fish than there is apple juice'

1. people do not (hopefully) let their 2 year old smoke and feed them fish 4 times a day 2. how about NONE (inorganic, I realize there is 2 diff. kinds)? since when is there a safe level of ANY poison? 'oh sure honey, just have a little sip of that cyanide, bleach, lighter fluid.. though b/c too much will hurt you'? sheesh.
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Re: Arsenic in Apple Juice!!! I am not kidding!

fwiw. costco's kirkland apple juice is made from apples grown in the u.s. I know dr. oz said to avoid apples grown in china and argentina.
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