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Old 12-29-2011, 09:07 AM   #1
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Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

My son has never been diagnosed with anything. However when he was a baby someone told us he showed signs of Asbergers. I have since (he is almost 2 1/2) talked to peds but we have moved alot no one seems concerned because he is so smart. However he has horibble tantrums where he hurts himself and anyone around there is no way to control him besides lock him in his room where he destroys it. My family all says he is just spoiled and needs spanked and he is controlling me . Believe me spanking does not help the few times I tried it he only got more violent. He has never slept through the night and recently stopped taking naps throwing his violent tantrums day and night. I tried melatonin last night and instead of waking up once an hour he was only up twice. My midwife said I shouldn't use it longer than 4 days with him she thinks it will reset his sleep clock in 4 days anyway. I have also researched some about weighted blankets? Anyone think one might help? And where do you buy them? They seemed so pricey when I checked into them? Any help/suggestions would be awesome! He goes to preschool 3 days a week and they say he is so soft spoken and there but that he is a drama king but that is all they have ever said. So I am so confused am I just a bad parent or is something really going on?

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Old 12-29-2011, 09:14 AM   #2
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

You are concerned for your child. Of course you are NOT a bad parent. I know several families that regularly use melatonin. If it works then you should use it. Can you sew at all? Or have you checked ETSY. There are several WAHMs that make them. ONe of the reasons they can be costly is because of shipping the weight. They also make weighted vests to wear during the day.

I would have to hear more about his behaviors to even begin to guess if he had ASD but you should follow your insticts as a Mama. Precious time is wasting. Find a developmental pediatrician and get him on a wait list to be seen. Also, contact your local infants and toddlers program through the public school system and refer him.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 AM   #3
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EARLY INTERVENTION! NOW! http://humanservices.arkansas.gov/dd...nsProgram.aspx

I hate to see people throwing out the ASD label without knowing a darn thing(my impression of 'some one mentioning' the label). Kids don't need labels, they need help! EI does not look to diagnose, nor do they try. They simply have a team of experts(PT, OT, SLP, Special Ed, etc) evaluate your child to determine if his trouble is interfering with his daily life and formulate a plan to regulate his brain and help him learn new ways of functioning.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:05 PM   #4
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

A pediatrician is NOT who you want to see for any type of diagnosis of this kind. Also, aspergers is commonly mis diagnosed, and often until a child is quite a bit older (mine was 9 when diagnosed). Aspergers ki.ds are smart... Some are geniuses, actually. They also have social issues, sensory issues, anxiety, and other things. I would get him into a neuropsychologist or some one who has dealt with aspergers/sensory issues/ADHD/OCD/etc. my son FINALLy has a diagnosis that everyone who deals with him on a regular basis agrees with (Aspergers, ADHD, anxiety) and his pediatrician still doubts it.

We use melatonin every night. Kids with aspergers and ADHD often don't produce as much melatonin as you or I, or typical kids do. It's the only way my sons brain can shut down. We don't have a weighted blanket, but he usually has the heaviest comforter in the house on his bed. Do you read him stories, or some other type of wind down activity before bed? Try an electric blanket, or a blanket straight out of the dryer during that time. I can see my son relax before my eyes when he uses one. On the tantrums, you need to get to the root of what is causing them, and help that. Alex tantrums because things are too much for him, things are out of his control. Because of the aspergers, and the anxiety. Knowing that helps, because I now know what to look out for. It doesn't always help keep the tantrums away, but it helps me deal with them.

If he is in preschool, you can try getting help through th public schools, but honestly? If he is smart, like you say, he most likely won't qualify. You have to show that his disability, or issues, or whatever you call it causes him problems in the classroom, and if he is already academically above where he is suppose to be, it's hard to prove.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:33 PM   #5
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

I agree with the other mamas (I work with a lot of kids on the spectrum). He really needs to have a developmental evaluation to see if he does have Aspergers. They can help figure out ideas for dealing with his behaviors as well.

We have some of our kiddos taking melatonin for life. If you are seeing benefits from it, you should keep using it.

About the weighted blanket. Does he like bear hugs? Most kids that like bear hugs really benefit from the weighted blanket because it's the same basic idea.

But getting him into an evaluation and intervention service (especially with the behavior issues) is key. Keep calling doctors until you will find one that will refer you if that's what you need to do!
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:51 PM   #6
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

Thanks mamas! Relenth how much melatonin do you give him? My son is 2 and weighs about 35 pounds. I have the liquid kind. I gave him 1.5 mg last night but everythign I read online seems controversial about how much I should give him. I am agreeing about not seeing a ped for it. I have talked to several peds (we have moved to 4 states since he was born) every one of them says well he is super smart he is just a stubborn kid. I know his tantrums are NOT just from being stubborn I have never seen a normal child hurt themself and destroy everything in their path and have meltdowns every two seconds. And I do think its when things are too much or if he is playing and he can't figure something out he throws it and has a melt down. He does love bear hugs! How do you keep your kids from sweating to death from a weighted blanket though? He is hot blooded anyway. He goes to a church preschool at the moment I emailed the director and teacher just today they have never said they have issues with him except I do know they have with nap time they had to put him in a crib to contain him at the beginning of the year they said that is the first child they ever had to do that to. I am just grasping for anwers I know its not "fixable" but I need to know what were dealing with to try to help him because its getting out of control the stronger and bigger he gets. And he is super strong for his age he can almost slam a door and hold it shut so I can't get in. What do you do for discipline for asbergers children? He will not stay in time out gets violent if you try to hold him to talk to him. Spanking does nothing but make him more violent doesn't teach him anything I haven't found anything that helps him know he was in the wrong.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:04 PM   #7
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

I have no idea why a doctor would think being "smart" would disqualify a child from a diagnosis of Aspergers. I have three with Aspergers and they are brilliant, and always have been. The diagnosis has nothing to do with intelligence.

Lots of difficult behaviors can surface at two, and if he is not sleeping well that could contribute to daytime meltdowns. I have read enough about melatonin to feel completely safe in its usage. Its been a miracle for my 3 yr old (who does not have autism but does have sleep issues). I started giving him 1 mg of the liquid when he was 2. We continue to use it as when we don't he goes back to yucky sleep patterns.

Becoming easily frustrated and having a tantrum is pretty normal for a two year old, but violent self injurious tantrums are concerning. There is a great website for anyone concerned about autism. There are checklists of developmental milestones, what to do if you have concerns, etc. Esp check out the ASD video glossary that can help parents spot the early red flags for autism by viewing side-by-side video clips of children with typical behaviors in comparison with children with autism.

https://www.firstsigns.org/

And here is link for the MCHAT, a screening tool for autism spectrum disorders in toddlers 16-30 months.

http://www2.gsu.edu/~psydlr/DianaLRo...les/M-CHAT.pdf
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:48 PM   #8
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Re: Melatonin...weighted blanket..asbergers.. or spd?

DO you have to be referred to a developmental ped by a reg ped? or how does that work? And is a developmental ped who I need to be having him see?

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Your a wonderful Mama! Clearly you love your LO and are trying your best!

I second what other mamas have been saying:

If you think your child may have a developmental disability have your ped refer you to a specialist ASAP. If he hurts himself durning tantrums that is very concerning and could be a sigh of several diffrent developmental disorders ranging from Attachment disorder to depression. It can be a sign for many different things all of which require intervention. You want to make sure you get the right diagnosis before you try treatments. If he does have Aspergers or Autism you want to intervene early well before he starts school. I would work on finding a developmental specialist and 0 to 3 program in your area first. Many peds still have a wait and see attitude so you may have to push the issue.

I work with several spectrum students in my job although I am not a Spechial Ed or developmental expert. Early intervention makes a hug difference down the road by the time I see them.

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I am in Maryland and usually suggest Kennedy Krieger here. Comparable in Arkansas looks like this:

http://www.archildrens.org/Services/...al-Center.aspx

Call-501-364-4000 they will be able to guide you
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