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Old 01-18-2012, 08:06 PM   #11
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Re: Engorgement relief and possible EPing

okay back with some links...

a friend of mine dealt with this with her baby and she wrote a 3 part guest blog on her experience...
This is part 1 http://www.babyfriendlynl.ca/guest/w...e-tale-part-1/
there are links to parts 2 and 3 on the right hand side

also check out Dr. Lawrence Kotlow's website...there are articles and info about posterior (submucosal) tongue tie and lip (maxillary frenulum) tie. kiddsteeth.com

lastly, here is another site (this link is all the posts on the blog that relate to tongue tie) http://www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk...8tongue-tie%29

whatever you do, good luck to you!

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Old 01-18-2012, 08:16 PM   #12
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Do not use cabage leaves, that can cause your milk to decrease and possibly dry up. No offense, but in my opinion his latch isn't going to get much better while being bottle fed (or using a pacifier, if you are). Could you possibly cup, spoon, or syringe feed? Also, can you make an appointment to get his tounge/lip tie clipped?


Yes, careful with the cabbage. It works exceptionally well! I really only recommend it if a Mama is wanting to dry up after weaning.

My LO was born with all the same things you are describing. Tongue-tie (the worst the Pedi had ever seen) and an upper-lip tie. We got the tongue-tie clipped at 2 days old. He nursed right afterward and it was a pretty simple procedure, at the Pedi's office.

My good friend, who is an IBCLC told me to just focus on breastfeeding. We never used bottles or pacifiers because of the latching issues. I didn't want any more added confusing or frustration. If we needed to feed him because breastfeeding wasn't working, it was always with a syringe (another tip from my IBCLC friend). This was recommended because babies have an intense desire to suck so if the only option is at the breast, they will nurse. It really helped to give him about 10-15cc and then he was in a more calm mood so he could latch.

I wouldn't give yourself a date to stop trying to breastfeed. Just relax, get rid of the bottles (they become a crutch), find a Pedi who will clip the tongue-tie (just because he can stick out his tongue doesn't mean it isn't effecting his latch or ability to remove milk from the breast), and keep offering to nurse. He will come around - he's just learning, too. You can do it, Mama! Hang in there! I know its frustrating and hard. Try not to get discouraged - you still have options. I'd definitely go see that other LC your midwife recommends, asap.

Let us know how you're doing.
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okay back with some links...

a friend of mine dealt with this with her baby and she wrote a 3 part guest blog on her experience...
This is part 1 http://www.babyfriendlynl.ca/guest/w...e-tale-part-1/
there are links to parts 2 and 3 on the right hand side

also check out Dr. Lawrence Kotlow's website...there are articles and info about posterior (submucosal) tongue tie and lip (maxillary frenulum) tie. kiddsteeth.com

lastly, here is another site (this link is all the posts on the blog that relate to tongue tie) http://www.analyticalarmadillo.co.uk...8tongue-tie%29

whatever you do, good luck to you!
Thanks for the links!!
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #14
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Update: Ill be seeing a very experienced LC tomorrow (she has been an LC for 20 years.) she is experienced with posterior tongue ties so i'm excited
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Update: Ill be seeing a very experienced LC tomorrow (she has been an LC for 20 years.) she is experienced with posterior tongue ties so i'm excited
Oh yay! Good Luck
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:43 AM   #16
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glad you are getting help from another lc
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glad you are getting help from another lc
me too. hopefully we'll be able to get my DS to stay latched on!
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me too. hopefully we'll be able to get my DS to stay latched on!
Let us know how it goes! We'll be rooting for you, two!
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the LC got him to latch and nurse for 40 min within 2 minutes of seeing my son. I just nursed him by myself. I'm so happy!
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