Reply Hey Mom! Learn more about the Gerber Life Insurance Grow-Up Plan!
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2012, 09:39 AM   #11
delicatefade's Avatar
delicatefade
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,124
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

Sorry, I didn't say it properly My daughter's issues were both with her ureters and her kidneys, so I should have caught that! I still don't think that circumcision will help prevent UTIs in a boy though.

Advertisement

__________________
Stacey ~ Wife to Keith (26/07/2003)
SAHM to Rowan (20/07/2005), Bria (30/07/2007), & Emery (19/02/2010)
*My Blog*

Holland Grace is here! (14/4/2013)
delicatefade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 09:42 AM   #12
KaleidoscopeEyes's Avatar
KaleidoscopeEyes
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Springfield Missouri
Posts: 14,775
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

neither of my boys (13 and 6 ) have had a UTI and DH has had 1 UTI when he was 30.
__________________
Super crunchy, atheist, vegetarian, liberal WOH and student mama to 4 wonderful, smart homeschooling kids Wesley 16, Seth 9, Pandora Moonlilly 5 and Nevermore Stargazer 2, married to my awesome sahd artist hubby and partner to my amazing writer/techy boyfriend
KaleidoscopeEyes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 09:42 AM   #13
linzbear's Avatar
linzbear
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Outside of Boston, MA
Posts: 2,866
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

The rate of UTIs looks like this for age under 1 year:

More Common
Girls
Intact Boys
Circ Boys
Less Common

Additionally, it is not known if the UTI risks are related to the old instruction to pull back the foreskin to clean.

I would not circ for this reason. Really, you don't know that it will help, and girls are far more likely to get UTIs anyway, so if the baby is a girl, you will still have to deal with this issue.

I'd also make sure if baby is a boy and you decide to keep him intact, and he does need a cath, make sure you ask the person placing the cath if they have experience on intact penises without retracting them before you let them near him. I've heard one too many stories of boys who were retracted (which likely causes infections) because the nurse had no idea how to place a catheter without retracting.
__________________

ExtBFing, ERFing, CDing, bedsharing mama to Lucas (2-21-09), Gabriel (4-16-11), Elliot (1-17-14), and loving wife to Rodd
linzbear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 09:46 AM   #14
amiecheatham's Avatar
amiecheatham
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 1,612
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by linzbear View Post
The rate of UTIs looks like this for age under 1 year:

More Common
Girls
Intact Boys
Circ Boys
Less Common


Additionally, it is not known if the UTI risks are related to the old instruction to pull back the foreskin to clean.

I would not circ for this reason. Really, you don't know that it will help, and girls are far more likely to get UTIs anyway, so if the baby is a girl, you will still have to deal with this issue.

I'd also make sure if baby is a boy and you decide to keep him intact, and he does need a cath, make sure you ask the person placing the cath if they have experience on intact penises without retracting them before you let them near him. I've heard one too many stories of boys who were retracted (which likely causes infections) because the nurse had no idea how to place a catheter without retracting.
I don't think I'm understand the bolded part. maybe I am not reading it correctly?

As for the rest of it, those are all really great points. Our daughter's urologist told us when we began trying for #2 that as a precaution baby #2 will go immediately on antibiotics at birth and then we would need to bring him/her in for testing (which would include a cath) in the first week. I will definitely remember that last part. thank you
__________________
Amie. Wife to Brook and Mama to my Jedi Ninja Girl, Sarah Jane
and my handsome devil, Carver.
Check out my Newborn Diaper and Baby Clothes De-stash!
amiecheatham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 09:47 AM   #15
burnsis's Avatar
burnsis
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,651
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

In the case of kidney reflux, I don't think it would matter one way or the other. Even without kidney reflux, UTI's just aren't that common in boys. They are much more common in girls, yet we treat with antibiotics, never suggesting cutting off functioning body parts as a first line of defense.


There's lots of info here:
http://www.circumstitions.com/Utis.html

An excerpt from that page:

"One commonly quoted figure is that UTIs are ten times as common in intact boys (1.1%) as circumcised boys (0.1%). This means that circumcision can offer an absolute reduction of 1% at best."


As for circumcision, there's an average risk of complication, around 4%. http://www.circumstitions.com/Complic.html

UTI's are most common in the first year of life, and risk is around 1%. Circumcision carries a risk of around 4%, and effects may last a lifetime. In fact, they will definitely be affected for the rest of their lives whether they know it or not, scarring, reduced sensation, etc.

It is not worth the risk, beyond that, also a human rights issue.
__________________

His body, his choice.

Last edited by burnsis; 03-16-2012 at 09:49 AM.
burnsis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #16
burnsis's Avatar
burnsis
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,651
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

double post
__________________

His body, his choice.

Last edited by burnsis; 03-16-2012 at 09:49 AM.
burnsis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 10:05 AM   #17
amiecheatham's Avatar
amiecheatham
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 1,612
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

thank you so much for the information.
__________________
Amie. Wife to Brook and Mama to my Jedi Ninja Girl, Sarah Jane
and my handsome devil, Carver.
Check out my Newborn Diaper and Baby Clothes De-stash!
amiecheatham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 10:20 AM   #18
kushie tushie's Avatar
kushie tushie
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,785
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiecheatham View Post
I don't think I'm understand the bolded part. maybe I am not reading it correctly?

As for the rest of it, those are all really great points. Our daughter's urologist told us when we began trying for #2 that as a precaution baby #2 will go immediately on antibiotics at birth and then we would need to bring him/her in for testing (which would include a cath) in the first week. I will definitely remember that last part. thank you
FYI- NICU nurses can cath intact newbies really well
kushie tushie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 10:28 AM   #19
linzbear's Avatar
linzbear
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Outside of Boston, MA
Posts: 2,866
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

Quote:
Originally Posted by amiecheatham View Post
I don't think I'm understand the bolded part. maybe I am not reading it correctly?

As for the rest of it, those are all really great points. Our daughter's urologist told us when we began trying for #2 that as a precaution baby #2 will go immediately on antibiotics at birth and then we would need to bring him/her in for testing (which would include a cath) in the first week. I will definitely remember that last part. thank you
Sorry, what I mean is that the chances of getting a UTI if you are an intact boy under the age of 1 are smaller than if you are a girl. Girls get more UTIs than intact boys. Does that make more sense?

My intact boy has not had a UTI either, but I think genetics plays a part in that. I've only ever had a UTI once or twice in my life.
__________________

ExtBFing, ERFing, CDing, bedsharing mama to Lucas (2-21-09), Gabriel (4-16-11), Elliot (1-17-14), and loving wife to Rodd
linzbear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2012, 12:22 PM   #20
nohollyhomaker
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,507
My Mood:
Re: A Question about Circumcision (yes, a real question!)

The study that shows that UTIs are more common in a uncircumcised boy was not very well done. The discharge instructions the boys got from the hospital said to retract and clean. Your boy will be at increased risk for a UTI circumcised or not due to structure. The cause of recurrent UTIs is due to structure not circumcision status. He very well could have a lot of UTIs due to the kidney reflux but it wouldn't be affected by his circumcision status. The severity would determine if they would need to operate just like with a girl.

Last edited by nohollyhomaker; 03-16-2012 at 08:11 PM.
nohollyhomaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Copyright 2005 - 2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.