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ds lives in a house with 6 girls(2 sisters, 4 cousins) we are very used to girls lol. he is 23 months and rarely talks. he says a word here and there but no sentences or anything. lots of grunting and pointing. but we know what he's asking for. my niece is 16 months and is speaking in complete coherent sentences is this normal? should we be worried?

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ds lives in a house with 6 girls(2 sisters, 4 cousins) we are very used to girls lol. he is 23 months and rarely talks. he says a word here and there but no sentences or anything. lots of grunting and pointing. but we know what he's asking for. my niece is 16 months and is speaking in complete coherent sentences is this normal? should we be worried?
Boys tend to get the physical aspects first and girls get the brains first. I would bet your DS was far more physically capable at 16 months than your niece is. I wouldn't worry yet
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I notice my ds (23 months) talks more when he doesn't have to compete with the girls. When it's just me and him, he talks my ear off.
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ds lives in a house with 6 girls(2 sisters, 4 cousins) we are very used to girls lol. he is 23 months and rarely talks. he says a word here and there but no sentences or anything. lots of grunting and pointing. but we know what he's asking for. my niece is 16 months and is speaking in complete coherent sentences is this normal? should we be worried?
I'm a speech therapist and I work with the birth - three year early intervention program for the state. I have over a decade of experience working with young children, I have three kids of my own, and 16 nieces and nephews, 3 of whom are autistic.

That said.....I can tell you from personal and professional experience that your son's speech really is considered delayed at this point.

As a rule a 1-year-old should speak in 1 word sentences, and a 2-year-old should speak in two word sentences. In reality most kids speak in 1 word utterances from 12 - 18 months and then start combining words. So, at 23 months you should be hearing "bye mama"...."more please"...or other simple combinations of words emerging.

Has he had his hearing checked? Loss of hearing (often due to frequent ear infections) is a common reason for speech delay in this age. The grunting and pointing makes me think he's more then just shy or "out-talked" by the girls".

I would recommend contacting your state's Early Intervention program. You can call your local elementary school (the birth-3 program is tied to the school program) or you can just google your state and early intervention.

Someone will contact you, visit you at home, and if he qualifies for services (which it sounds like he does) then someone will come to your house to do therapy each week. Payment is a sliding scale based on income and insurance.

Please don't be too worried though....70% of kids going through elementary school have received some form of speech therapy....and I've worked with many boys in your son's situation that just needed a little verbal "boost" and were age appropriate before their 3rd birthday. Now is definately the time to seek help though, because he's young enough that you can prevent it effecting his learning of other skills!

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Chances are that with that many kids around, he doesn't HAVE to talk. My mum said that my little brother barely uttered a word until my sister and I went to school (he was about 2.5 then). I'd say it's pretty common.

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I'm a speech therapist and I work with the birth - three year early intervention program for the state. I have over a decade of experience working with young children, I have three kids of my own, and 16 nieces and nephews.

That said.....I can tell you from personal and professional experience that your son's speech really is considered delayed at this point.

As a rule a 1-year-old should speak in 1 word sentences, and a 2-year-old should speak in two word sentences. In reality most kids speak in 1 word utterances from 12 - 18 months and then start combining words. So, at 23 months you should be hearing "bye mama"...."more please"...or other simple combinations of words emerging.

Has he had his hearing checked? Loss of hearing (often due to frequent ear infections) is a common reason for speech delay in this age.

I would recommend contacting your state's Early Intervention program. You can call your local elementary school (the birth-3 program is tied to the school program) or you can just google your state and early intervention.

Someone will contact you, visit you at home, and if he qualifies for services (which it sounds like he does) then someone will come to your house to do therapy each week. Payment is a sliding scale based on income and insurance.

Please don't be too worried though....70% of kids going through elementary school have received some form of speech therapy....and I've worked with many boys in your son's situation that just needed a little verbal "boost" and were age appropriate before their 3rd birthday. Now is definately the time to seek help though, because he's young enough that you can prevent it effecting his learning of other skills!

yeah he doesnt put anything together. his vocabukary is:
mama
dada
lola(the dog)
juice(any drink in his cup lol)
mine
no
pee

and thats it. he has had a bunch of EIs but he seems to hear fine and follow/obey commands easily. he wont repeat words if you ask him to, just looks at you and points to what he wants. like if you tell him to say cookie or cheese before you hand it to him he wont. i wasnt worried until i realized that my niece who is 6 months younger was stringing together complete sentences and calling everyone in the house by name(and thats a lot of names lol). do i just call early intervention(im familiar with them from when i nannied an autistic boy) or talk to the ped first? i just hate for him to get more behind.
fwiw i know he can talk he will randomly spout out something like"hiding" and cover his head(but that example was 6 months ago??) i aso worry that this could be related to the seizures he had 4x last year.....
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Chances are that with that many kids around, he doesn't HAVE to talk. My mum said that my little brother barely uttered a word until my sister and I went to school (he was about 2.5 then). I'd say it's pretty common.

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yeah i didnt atlk until i was 4 and my sister went to kindergarten. i could talk and did when she wasnt around but didnt need to until she was gone all day.....
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I would look into early intervention too.

It could be that he doesn't get a chance to talk with all the other talking going on, but it's best to get it looked into.

In the meantime, try to give him some space where he's the only one around and nobody is talking for him or over him.
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Seizures could be a part of it. What did the Ped say at the time?

Personally, I'd call the Ped AND Early Intervention. It can take up to 4 months to go from first call to first therapy and the faster you can get in the sooner he'll get help. Especially, with summer coming up and some people take more time off.
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I would call Early intervention. The basic rule is usually 8 words by 18 months (on the low end). There are also medical conditions that make the expressive language lack but the understood language is normal (like apraxia etc).

They will tell you of it is normal or not.

Almost all of the literature and speaking with my daughters speech paths have said that it is a myth that children in larger families talk later because someone else does it for them. This loses valuable time where your child could be receiving free services and getting them caught up while looking into possible other reasons for a delay.

My dd has been in the program for a year now and it has been a huge help.
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