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Old 04-10-2012, 08:40 AM   #1
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So ds is three months old. I was breastfeeding and doing formula but, when ds was getting real fussy at the breast I switched to all formula. He was using Parents Choice organic. When I switched to all formula, his poops were very solid. We ran out one day and the closet walmart did not have the Organic. So I got the Walmart version of Enfamil Lipil. His poops were much better. More of what they should look like. Though now he has started to spit up more and is more gassy. So, my question is should I try a different bottle or a different formula. I'm using Playtex Ventair. I have tried Mam but, the nipples got to fast and I can't find replacements at walmart and I have First Years but, the nipple flow is to fast. I can't even lay him down on his belly without him spitting up a lot. It's not projectile but, it seems like he is spitting up a lot. He had gas and spit up before but, it seemed less. Thinking about Dr. Browns but, the nipple even at stage one is too fast. Tried one I had from last ds with the ventAir. I just don't want to try a lot of different formulas, if it might just be the bottle.

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sounds like a touch of both. does he "gulp" when on the bottle? like he is swallowing too much air? might be worth it to try a more orthodontic nipple. that took my happy puker from projectile vomiting down to just spitting up.

also having them sit up for a bit after eating really helps out too.
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Unless it's bedtime he sits up for a while.
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Re: Is it the formula or bottle?

Try a can of the Parent's Choice Sensitivity - it is the Similac Sensitive version. I liked that one but my son refused anything enfamil. It could be either the formula or bottles or both. Or, you can try the liquid version as you don't mix as much so you get less air/gas (but it is far more expensive). I liked the playtex and Dr. Brown bottles but there are a few new ones now I have not tried.

Try calling Parents Choice and seeing if they can send you coupons or samples of a few of their different versions.

http://www.parentschoiceformula.com/...a-samples.aspx
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sounds like a touch of both. does he "gulp" when on the bottle? like he is swallowing too much air? might be worth it to try a more orthodontic nipple. that took my happy puker from projectile vomiting down to just spitting up.

also having them sit up for a bit after eating really helps out too.
Which bottle did you switch to if you don't mind me asking? My daughter has had a few serious projectile vomiting cases where she can't even breathe for a while, scared me to death. Burping her more and keeping her upright is helping a lot, but not entirely. She is on soy, for a possible milk allergy, so I'm going to try a couple other soy formulas (right now we are using Enfamil). She seems to really be 'gulping', but I think I hear lots of air (like instead of just a swallowing noise, it's a loud "GULP" sound). Curious what you changed to!
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Which bottle did you switch to if you don't mind me asking? My daughter has had a few serious projectile vomiting cases where she can't even breathe for a while, scared me to death. Burping her more and keeping her upright is helping a lot, but not entirely. She is on soy, for a possible milk allergy, so I'm going to try a couple other soy formulas (right now we are using Enfamil). She seems to really be 'gulping', but I think I hear lots of air (like instead of just a swallowing noise, it's a loud "GULP" sound). Curious what you changed to!
Get her to a GI. I would try different formulas and bottles, but I'd get some help with that. Projectile vomiting can be "normal" but worth looking into but the breathing would worry me.
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try a different formula, if you having alot of spit up, we used similac spit up and thats some what thicker, projectile vomiting is somewhat normal per the pediatrician, even then I would switch formulas, all of my kids had the same issues had to be put on a lactose free or a gentle formula
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also, IMO, idk why they give soy as the second option before trying the lactose free or gentle ease ones, but try them
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also, IMO, idk why they give soy as the second option before trying the lactose free or gentle ease ones, but try them
Actually, soy is not recommended anymore as the second option - the gentle formulas or hypoallergenic formula is recommended, because of some of the concerns about phytoestrogens and soy. Soy is only recommended to be tried after the other formulas, or if the parents are vegans for ethical reasons and do not want to use an animal milk based formula.

As far as "solid" poops, that isn't uncommon with formula. As long as baby is having regular bowel movements and is not straining hard or seeming uncomfortable, and the poops are not dry, pellet-like (think rabbit droppings), it isn't a problem. If he was happier on the other formula, it may be worth just switching back.
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Which bottle did you switch to if you don't mind me asking? My daughter has had a few serious projectile vomiting cases where she can't even breathe for a while, scared me to death. Burping her more and keeping her upright is helping a lot, but not entirely. She is on soy, for a possible milk allergy, so I'm going to try a couple other soy formulas (right now we are using Enfamil). She seems to really be 'gulping', but I think I hear lots of air (like instead of just a swallowing noise, it's a loud "GULP" sound). Curious what you changed to!
The soy protein is similar to milk protein, generally if a baby is allergic or intolerant to one the other will be an issue too. All 3 of my boys had reflux and 1 was milk and soy protein I tolerant. I agree with PP about soy, only use as a last resort.

I am a Dr Brown fan. I could never get the ventair bottles to vent right. Both of my SILs swear by the Playtex drop-ins.
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