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Old 04-11-2012, 09:41 PM   #11
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Re: Help with night-training a older bedwetting child who sleeps like the dead

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I wouldn't wake or limit fluids, IME ( and my ped.'s) it doesn't help. My DD will be 9 in July and she still wets nearly every night. I did until almost 12.
If you don't mind me asking... then did you just outgrow it on your own?

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Old 04-12-2012, 05:39 AM   #12
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this happened with my oldest. he wore pull-ups until he was over 8 (I didn't know about cloth trainers back then ). The doc wanted me to try meds and the alarm, but I didn't. I had 3 younger kids and I knew it would wake everyone EXCEPT him. He started sleeping like the dead once he gave up naps. And now, at almost 19, he still sleeps like that. He started being dry before he turned 9, I think. But his cousin was a teen before he stopped wetting the bed. It didn't bother DS, even to wear pull ups in front of his friends at sleepovers and it didn't bother us.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:44 AM   #13
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I wouldn't want to jump at the option of medication either. I know it's developmental. But since DS sleeps so heavily, I guess I started to wonder if he could outgrow it without some sort of "help."

DH's brother is such a heavy sleeper, even as an adult. It's a family joke now-- once he's out you cannot wake him up! (not sure if he ever had problems with wetting the bed though)

DS sometimes soaks out of underjams too. Most nights he can't re-wear his pajamas either b/c they retain the smell. But it's better than washing sheets every night so I won't complain too much.
Specialists say it's hereditary... maybe ask the motherinlaw if your husband or his brother did?

My Dad wet to bed until 8 or 9? And some of my brothers did until that age as well. My oldest son (4-1/2) wets to bed still while his 3-1/2 year old brother wakes up to go pee in the middle of the night. So we'll see what happens with that! My mom would try not giving my brothers dairy (milk, etc) after 7pm.
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I started a thread on this topic a few weeks ago: http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/....php?t=1363043 (short recap: a urologist who says the root of the problem is often chronic constipation; even if a child is pooping regularly and you don't think they're constipated, they could still be backed up on the inside, and that can put pressure on the bladder that doesn't give it room to stretch and also messes with the nerves. I stumbled across this shortly after finding out, by cat scan, my son is clearly very constipated even though I had no clue.

We are in the process of working on the solution. According to the book, it can take about 3 months and then we should get a follow-up x-ray to see if it's cleared or not. We've had some progress (some dry nights, and much less pee in the pullups, like he'd peed only once instead of twice or more overnight). But in the last week or 2, things have kind of reverted. But we're only 1 month in, so we're going to keep working on that. DS is very, very happy to go along with it.

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Old 04-12-2012, 09:03 AM   #15
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I started a thread on this topic a few weeks ago: http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/....php?t=1363043 (short recap: a urologist who says the root of the problem is often chronic constipation; even if a child is pooping regularly and you don't think they're constipated, they could still be backed up on the inside, and that can put pressure on the bladder that doesn't give it room to stretch and also messes with the nerves. I stumbled across this shortly after finding out, by cat scan, my son is clearly very constipated even though I had no clue.

We are in the process of working on the solution. According to the book, it can take about 3 months and then we should get a follow-up x-ray to see if it's cleared or not. We've had some progress (some dry nights, and much less pee in the pullups, like he'd peed only once instead of twice or more overnight). But in the last week or 2, things have kind of reverted. But we're only 1 month in, so we're going to keep working on that. DS is very, very happy to go along with it.
That's really interesting! I know DS isn't constipated though. In fact, he had chronic diarrhea for several years, was losing weight, etc. We found out he has a fructose intolerance. After eliminating HFCS and limiting high-fructose fruits, he's finally having normal stools and gaining weight!
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he may just not be ready my 5.5 year old wets 1/2 the time. my 4 year old wets all the time. both have been PL'd during the day for over 3 years. dh wet for a long time(til he was 10 i think) so im ot holding my breath, we just use nighttime cloth pullups and the sheets stay dry.
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My oldest just recenty outgrew this and he will be 11 next month. Just in time to deal with it with my 4 yo, lol.
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That's really interesting! I know DS isn't constipated though. In fact, he had chronic diarrhea for several years, was losing weight, etc. We found out he has a fructose intolerance. After eliminating HFCS and limiting high-fructose fruits, he's finally having normal stools and gaining weight!
Sounds like it's probably not the problem...but just FYI, my son has always had normal stools too, but apparently he was backed up anyway. What the doctor who wrote the book is saying, is that sometimes the rectum gets overfilled and it just sits there, and new poop slides on out past the old stuff that just stays there.
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If you don't mind me asking... then did you just outgrow it on your own?
Yes I did. But up until 12 I never knew if I was gonna wet the bed or not, usually yes but I woke up dry sometimes. Sleepovers were the worst.
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Sounds like it's probably not the problem...but just FYI, my son has always had normal stools too, but apparently he was backed up anyway. What the doctor who wrote the book is saying, is that sometimes the rectum gets overfilled and it just sits there, and new poop slides on out past the old stuff that just stays there.
I read that thread and it got me curious but is there no other test than a balloon in the rectum? I'd rather just wait to see if DD grows out of it then to subject her to that.
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