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Old 04-11-2012, 01:50 PM   #1
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So down about having no facebook friends that understand me Did I post something bad?

I seriously have hardly any friends that understand me. Actually the only friends I have I go to church with and they either formula feed or pump and feed while supplementing. I actually do have one friend who breastfeeds but she could care less about how important it is. She does it because its free I guess.

But anyway I posted this article on facebook because I thought it was good.

I got "corrected"

What do you think do you agree with her Private message to me?

How should I respond.

Here is the link: http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/1358...atural_fanpage



Here is what I said when I posted the link:

Yay!!! I hope this trend continues! This happens to me I was told by a nurse, just give him formula until your milk comes in. Hey, it's free? Uninformed and uneducated moms don't know that formula in the first 2 weeks of a newborns life can devastate your supply. Wish more hospitals jumped on board.

Here is her message to me.

say to each his own, If you want to do whats best for your baby you can. If they want to give out free formula to people when their babies are born its not changing the fact that you still feed your baby the way you want to. You do not benifit from it in anyway if they take it away from other moms that want to formula feed. You know I would never give him formula if I didn't have to. As of 10 1/2 months hes all formula. But I am greatful that it was free in the hospital. Because its $25 per can and lasts less than a week. I understand you want them to encourage moms to nurse their babies I'm all for that. But I really don't think if they took it out of hospitals that it would change a mothers mind one way or another. No one could change our minds and tell us formula was better. Because we know its not. So if they gave us all the free formula in the world we still wouldnt care and would nurse our babies. You have to put yourself in other peoples shoes in some situations. Most moms are probably on wic anyways and get it for free when they leave the hospital. Not that I had to use this much formula because in the first 5 months or so he got mostly my milk but on average for paying mothers its 25 per can at 52 weeks thats a total of 1,300. WOW I just calculated that out lol
oh boy I hope that didnt come out rudely in anyway. I didnt mean for it to. I promote mothers milk all the way around.. and would nurse until they were 3 if they wanted to, But some mothers cant and its discouraging to them and some mothers feel like totol failures..

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Old 04-11-2012, 01:59 PM   #2
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I don't feel like there is anything wrong with what you said or what she said. She is right, ridding hospitals of free formula isn't going to change a mothers kind or the advice of the nurses.

Also, for people like myself who can't breastfeed do to IGT free formula would be nice.

However, I agree 100% with you that taking it out is a great step in the right direction!
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #3
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Re: So down about having no facebook friends that understand me Did I post something

I mean if people intend on formula feeding then they should be responsible for it. Mainly because the people who intend on breastfeeding don't need the pressure or escape of formula.

two out of 3 of my kids I let this happen to.

My friend is such a sweetheart I love her dearly. I just don't know what to say because I believe whole heartedly that formula given for free to breastfeeding moms who are trying their hardest at something that is HARD don't need the escape of formula.

I don't want to sound rude and tell her her opinion is her. kwim?
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:19 PM   #4
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Re: So down about having no facebook friends that understand me Did I post something

It sounds like you both support breastfeeding and have different perspectives on this issue. There's nothing wrong with differences of opinion. In fact, I think life would be pretty boring if all of my friends were exactly like me. Agree to disagree.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:23 PM   #5
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I mean if people intend on formula feeding then they should be responsible for it. Mainly because the people who intend on breastfeeding don't need the pressure or escape of formula.

two out of 3 of my kids I let this happen to.

My friend is such a sweetheart I love her dearly. I just don't know what to say because I believe whole heartedly that formula given for free to breastfeeding moms who are trying their hardest at something that is HARD don't need the escape of formula.

I don't want to sound rude and tell her her opinion is her. kwim?
I agree. However, my DD would have been very sick if there wasn't that push.

I didn't know I had IGT until this year! My DD is 3. I started researching breastfeeding this pregnancy and figured out why pumping, supplementing with formula, medication and supplements never worked with DD.

If a baby loses too much weight they go downhill VERY fast. That's why nurses/doctors push so much because they don't know Jane from
Alice. Does that make sense? While you may be completely dedicated to breastfeeding and feeding as much and as long as you need to for a newborn, Jane may not. Jane may be tired or lazy or heck even have IGT!

I'm not saying what you are saying is wrong! I agree 100% and up until this year I felt the nurses did the same to me and thats why I could never nurse my LO. I'm just saying there is truth to what your friend is saying IMO.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:47 PM   #6
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I don't think anyone is saying that hospitals shouldn't provide formula if it is wanted or needed. BUT, much like they charge people for their meals (it is part of the globalized hospital fees) I think they should charge for providing meals for the baby. Many hospitals now charge for using the services of the nursery for "baby sitting." I think it is a good way for ensuring that the services are being paid for by those that are using them and NOT by everyone. Further, formula isn't free, so perhaps it would stop some moms from simply opting for the free formula when they hit a bump in breastfeeding.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:49 PM   #7
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Re: So down about having no facebook friends that understand me Did I post something

I actually kind of agree with the article, although I think it's also a choice. It drives me crazy that WIC just does free formula, since I know many women (literally) who chose to formula feed BECAUSE it was free to them (although not to the rest of us, look at our countries budget) through WIC.... sigh....
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:21 PM   #8
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Re: So down about having no facebook friends that understand me Did I post something

I am sorry your friend hurt your feelings. I don't think there is anything wrong with what you posted.

I think it totally depends on the hospital. Not every hospital pushes formual or hands out free samples.

with DS1 he was 4 weeks early and had a horrible time latching/sucking. The nurses and LC's were amazing. They spent a ton of time with me/us trying different positions, latches, the SNS things, breast shields, set me up with a pump to get the colosturm and syringe feed it too him. In the end he dropped weight fast and his juandice numbers got really high. The last resort was a few ml of formula after each nursing session. The formula kept him out of the NICU.

DS2 had no issues and formula wasn't even mentioned.
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I haven't had to deal with any special circumstances like the mother above, but i do think that the free formula at hospitals (which really isn't free because someone usually ends up paying for it like insurance, etc) but i think the nurses (some, not all) are in the mindset of "don't worry yourself about it dear, we have this formula just sitting around...you can let me feed baby while you are getting some much needed rest." and if they didn't have that free formula sitting around, the nurses would change their attitude some. Just like, i chose to cloth diaper because it was cheaper, not because it was better for the environment or baby or any of that. But the longer i stayed here it has made me more aware and more "natural, crunchy, green" etc. i now am more aware of how circ'ing isn't needed and how formula isn't as safe as you think it is and how we put all kinds of chemicals in our body on a daily basis, etc. i guess i'm just saying that its sort of like "be careful the company you keep". The more i talk to other environmentally friendly moms here, the more environmentally friendly i become myself....so if more hospital nurses were trained in lactation and were not given the formula to pass out like candy then they too would become more breastfeeding friendly....but thats just my opinion....


As for you and your friend, like others said, i don't think either of you said anything wrong or mean, just two different views.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:00 AM   #10
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It's not logical to say that hospitals shouldn't have formula. If a mother isn't going to breastfeed, then there has to be something to feed the baby. It would be like a hospital expecting you to provide your own food while there. Not gonna happen. What makes sense is having educated and trained nurses that don't offer formula to breastfeeding moms. And don't send it home with a breastfeeding mom. I was not offered any samples in the hospital and there were no samples in my gift bag. I think there were some coupons, but those are easily disposed of.
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