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Old 08-24-2012, 02:02 PM   #21
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It completely depends on where you live and what the laws are but do some research into raw cows milk. Many people who have an intolerance to milk do not experience the same intolerances to raw milk as the good proteins and digestive enzymes haven't been destroyed from the pasteurization process. Something else to think about.... I love going directly to the farm and buying my delicious, milked-that-morning raw milk!
I want to avoid dairy all-together because both dd and I are following a vegan diet (I hope to slowly get the rest of the family eating vegan at some point) so I am looking for milk alternatives.

I saw someone mentioned flax milk. I recently bought some flax milk from Whole Foods because they didn't seem to have Hemp (which I was surprised about). It looks like it has a ton of good stuff in it, but it is very low in calories (25 per serving!) and only 2.5 grams of fat. That's good for me, but I don't think that's so good for dd. I've been mixing it with some of her formula and she seems to like it. Has anyone else tried this?

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Old 08-25-2012, 09:57 AM   #22
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Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!

I haven't read this thread in its entirety but I'm vegan and my ODD has allergies to nuts, soy, dairy, and other things. She cannot do coconut milk or soy milk (I'm leery of too much soy anyway). We do rice milk or a rice and hemp milk blend. There is really no need to replace milk once your daughter is off formula unless you really want to for some reason, like for mixing with cereal. You can find ways to add fat/calories to her diet through food.

I use rice milk for baking or anything where milk is required and you really can't tell the difference. My ODD loves chocolate hemp milk and it's really good for her. I, personally, like coconut milk but don't drink it often. SoDelicious makes great flavored ones for coffee!
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:26 PM   #23
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I cannot have any soy or dairy in my diet due to allergies, so I use fortified rice milk and have used it with my one year old also. Cows Milk only has added a and d so its not like its really all that full of vitamins? I am not really sure why the world pushes cows milk anyways. I also refuse to give my boys Soy milk even though they do not have a soy allergy like I do. I always advise anyone considering soy milk to do there own research. Although some research shows a limited amount of soy may be beneficial (ecspecially for menopausal women, because of the estrogen-like effects) most processed foods and mixes contain soy, so most people get soy without knowing it.

I have also heard alot of good things about hemp milk. I have never been able to find it near me so that one is still something I want to try! Good luck!
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:20 AM   #24
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You know, I have never done ANY milk replacing and my kids are super-healthy.
So glad I'm not the only one! We also don't go crazy with alternative milks around here. I buy rice milk to pour on cereal and for cooking but my LOs really aren't all that enthralled with cereal anyway. I figure rice milk has such a lame nutritional profile that there's really no benefit to it over water...so they drink water. Having said that, I did buy some hemp milk a month ago and they both LOVED it and begged for more. So even though it's $3-4 a box (OUCH!) I think I'll splurge every once in a while just to mix things up. FWIW, I personally LOVE hazelnut milk...yum.
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Most of the alternative milks are so short on calories they are quite pointless.

But do look into veganism with babies. Children need saturated fats to make myelin sheaths on their nerves. As of 10 years ago when my mother was a child development specialist trying to help families stick to vegan ideals, she couldn't find a way for a vegan diet to support neurology, without a lot of breastfeeding. You might consult a naturopath about this, there are more foods available now with plant sources of saturated fat.

I gave soy to my milk-allergic child and he developed an off the charts soy allergy. Go figure. A naturopath can also help check for other hidden allergies and help you choose a food introduction schedule that has high odds of helping your LO grow out of all allergies.
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Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!

I just wanted to reply b/c this is the same story as my DS. He was dx with a dairy & soy allergy as an infant - just a few weeks old. When he was just about a year old his Ped told us he was ok to have those things again, so I listened to my doc, started eating dairy again & fed it to him. Now he is going on 7 & we JUST found out that a million and one issues he has been having his whole life is b/c of this stupid dairy allergy. This whole time he's been allergic to it & it never "went away" like his old Ped said. They didn't re-test him or anything like that when they said he was ok to consume those foods again.

I'm not saying your child couldn't have gotten over the allergy - I hear it happens, but I wouldn't just go off the word of the doc w/o any testing or anything.

And ditto what a PPer mentioned about dairy. We are the only animals that continue to consume milk after being a child.
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My DN has had a similar battle. I know he can tolerate goats milk (SIL started him just before turning one) He also has recently started on RAW cow's milk (which is what I switched our whole fam to about 7-8 mos ago) with good result. But she also does a lot of 'alternative' milks... coconut, hemp seed, almond. All with good result. (SIL is vegetarian but went vegan while dn was nursing, kiddos do eat meat cuz daddy is a meatie but #1 kiddo doesn't really care for too much meat, just to give you that background)

GOOD LUCK mama, I know from talking to her almost daily for the last year this a difficult path and you are always questioning along the way!
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We use coconut milk,hemp milk,and flax milk. BE CAREFUL WITH THE SOY. It can increase hormone levels. I wasn't aware of that fact and one of my children who weaned themselves early started soy milk. She was then diagnosed with precocious puberty at age five,which means she is starting puberty waaaaaay too early. We did tons of testing,brain scans,ultra sounds,you name it. Specialists say it may have been the soy milk because it's known to increase estrogens. Her bones are the density of a 11 year old and she just turned 6. Not trying to scare you but I wish someone would have warned me about the effects soy has on hormone levels.

Also take a look at this:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx

http://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/

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Agh! Our ped told us soy was just fine. I was worried about the above problems, but hadn't heard of someone actually having problems (just stories, nothing first person). My DD drinks soymilk like its going out of style. Looks like I need to do more research. Thanks for the info!!!!

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Re: Any Vegan or Non-Dairy people out there? I need advice!

ds had a dairy allergy that we figured out at about 4 months old... he nursed til he was almost 3, with me cutting out all dairy (he reacted to all dairy, whey, casein, everything), and drank pretty much whatever was cheapest/on sale/ i had a coupon, unless he had a special request. he drank soy, rice, almond and coconut milk. hes never been a big milk drinker though, and prefers the heavily flavored ones when he does want something (right now he likes the silk 'berry milk" as he calls it- the juice/soymilk blends). hes almost 5 now, and mostly out grown it. its more of a lactose intollerance now, and he can handle almost everything but straight milk. im thinking about trying him on the lactose free milk here soon, to see how that goes, but i dont really think it matters, because, like i said, hes not a big milk drinker... and i looked at it the other day, and the lactose free stuff is more expensive than soy milk!
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I just wanted to reply b/c this is the same story as my DS. He was dx with a dairy & soy allergy as an infant - just a few weeks old. When he was just about a year old his Ped told us he was ok to have those things again, so I listened to my doc, started eating dairy again & fed it to him. Now he is going on 7 & we JUST found out that a million and one issues he has been having his whole life is b/c of this stupid dairy allergy. This whole time he's been allergic to it & it never "went away" like his old Ped said. They didn't re-test him or anything like that when they said he was ok to consume those foods again.

I'm not saying your child couldn't have gotten over the allergy - I hear it happens, but I wouldn't just go off the word of the doc w/o any testing or anything.

And ditto what a PPer mentioned about dairy. We are the only animals that continue to consume milk after being a child.

This is what I think happened with my 7 year old! She was such a difficult infant, always crying, never sleeping through the night, diarrhea all the time. Her ped's only answers were that she had acid reflux, or toddler tummy, or that it was just typical baby/toddler behavior. I was young at the time and didn't know anything else but to listen to the Dr. so we just dealt with it.

Fast forward 5 years and she was still dealing with tummy issues all the time. One day it clicked with DH and I when we were out at a restaurant. She had some chocolate milk before her dinner arrived and within 10 min. was complaining of a stomach ache. Since then we have limited her dairy intake and she barely ever complains or has stomach upset BUT she is the only one out of my 4 children that has a lot of issues. She has vision and speech problems and also shows behavior that would be similar to someone with adhd (although she has never been diagnosed as such). I am constantly wondering if we had realized sooner that she had a sensitivity to dairy, would things be different?
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