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Old 09-21-2012, 12:12 PM   #31
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Clearly that's not verbatim, but I can't be the only one this happens to? For instance, I was at a party recently and there was a mom there with a baby in cloth diapers, so I say hello to chat about diapers, and she just starts yapping non-stop about the evils of doctors, pediatricians, vaccinations, all about her sparkly 50 hour homebirths, and what a plague autism is. Not to change the topic, but I can't tell you how many people who, upon new acquaintance, tell me their dogs have autism. Obviously that's before they find out about my son. I usually just keep my mouth shut because things get awkward. But what's up with all these autistic dogs, and why do people feel the need to tell me about it? Especially since they are usually making fun of autistic kids. I don't get it. But yeah, I have a hard time initiating conversations with moms when I see them out babywearing or using cloth because they start the anti-western medicine vomit all over me, and if they later find out about dh's job they feel really embarrassed and there goes any friendship.

I can't be the only one here? Do I just have one of those faces that says "tell me all your secrets in the first 5 mins I know you"? I even had a mom once tell me that when her then preschool age child was a baby she used to get so mad she'd just shake him. Who tells a stranger that?!? I happened to know her Pediatrician, so I tattled, but how could I let that go? And why was she telling me?
That is so strange, I have never experienced this. Not many people IRL know my kids are not vaxed. It is just their doctors and my parents plus a couple very close friends who I do talk about everything with. They didn't know within moments of meeting me though, it was a slow warming up and over time we learned about each other type of thing. I would never joke about my dog having autism but then my child has autism. I do joke that Blue is Kearnan in dog form. It is just one of those dogs looking/acting like their owners things though. I swear the little dog gets lost in the back yard and forgets what she was supposed to be doing just like he does. You have to remind her that she went out to do her business and get a drink of water not stare a beetle for 10minutes. It is like his personality rubbed off on her or something. But it is what makes them perfect companions, she is so slow, curious and generally goofy. On a slightly related note I bought this book for Kearnan to help him understand Aspergers http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS.../chrisficti-20 and we both quite enjoyed it. I'm thinking I may try out the All Dogs have ADHD next for Tharen.

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:38 PM   #32
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During the pertussis season, I would definitely avoid people who aren't vaxed with a new baby. Sad that you even have to think about that, but you have to do what you have to do to protect your kid.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:57 PM   #33
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I don't vaccinate my kids, but really the conversations rarely come up.

A few of my very good friends know, my mom and dad...that's about it. It's no ones business. We're part of a homeschool co-op...I think there are a couple families that skip vaccines but I'm not 100% sure...if someone ASKED I'd be honest, but it's never come up.
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During flu season unfortunately I will have to avoid one of my friends that doesn't vax which sucks bc her ds was born 2 weeks before my dd. The problem is that her dd (3) has probably the worst immune system ever, she is sick all the time (last year she was sick every week from october-january and many times since then) and they go out when she is sick
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They usually know because of some stereotype of what people with autism are like. Maybe they have a dog who is a little slow to warm up with strangers, but they decide its funny to talk about how they have autism, and usually insert a few offensive jokes about autism in there. I just nod politely and move on. They don't mean to offend me, so I don't allow it to. Then again, maybe it's a Texas thing, because I have heard it tons since we moved here, but not before. Everybody and their aunt has a dog with autism down here. Must be the heat.
I've lived in Texas my whole life and have never heard of an autistic dog?
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They usually know because of some stereotype of what people with autism are like. Maybe they have a dog who is a little slow to warm up with strangers, but they decide its funny to talk about how they have autism, and usually insert a few offensive jokes about autism in there. I just nod politely and move on. They don't mean to offend me, so I don't allow it to. Then again, maybe it's a Texas thing, because I have heard it tons since we moved here, but not before. Everybody and their aunt has a dog with autism down here. Must be the heat.
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Re: If you believe in vaxing, but have friends who don't...

The one thing I would be super cautious about is if they are the non-vaxer's that like to pass around the chicken pox so their kids get immunity. Some, not all, but some don't care if they expose other people and just think if you have even a slight risk you should stay closed in a bubble since it isn't their problem. If you are okay with your kids getting natural immunity chicken pox probably not a big deal but if you have a small baby or in the first trimester (i think it is dangerous to also contract it in the beginning of your second trimester also but my memory is fuzzy) or have a vulnerable person in your household it is a huge deal. Other then that I would just keep alert and stay cautious if any illnesses start spreading in your church (and outside the church as well). If illnesses are spreading I would stay far far away from infected parties, vaxed and non-vaxed. If you are extremely worried you can test to see if you or your children have built appropriate antibodies from the vaccines.

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Re: If you believe in vaxing, but have friends who don't...

We delay and selectively vax bug honestly I could care less whether someone else vaccinates. I do have an acquaintance though whose children are completely up to date on vaccines and she believes the only reason people choose not to vaccinate on schedule is because they are scared of autism Every time her kids catch anything she is always calling me and letting me know that her kids caught something from mine. No matter how many times I tell her my kids are healthy she insist they must have been carriers a whatever her kids caught. As a whole my kids are much healthier than her but she still blames my kids every time hers get sick.
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I've lived in Texas my whole life and have never heard of an autistic dog?
Same as you.
Anyways...I wouldn't avoid anyone unless I know they have a severe illness. DD cannot be fully vax'd (live virus vax's) because of her liver transplant so we have to avoid super sick people and anyone with a VPD. If she were to catch any MMR disease or CP then she would land in the hospital with probable (not just possible) organ rejection and a life threatening disease. She is the reason we are fully (but spacing) vaxing our new one coming in Dec and why all of us are sure to get boosters for things.
I don't avoid going to the grocery store, LLL meetings or church nursery because of it, but I am a firm believer in good hygiene preventing most illnesses.
I just wish she was still nursing. She stopped in June when she was 20 months because I'm assuming she didn't like the taste anymore. She's had rotovirus and 2 colds since July. While nursing, during chemo and after transplant she has never had a cold or any other typical childhood illness thanks to breastmilk. I'm hoping that when the new one gets here she will want to try again, or I can at least pump and give her a cup a day. Sorry, that got OT. :/

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Re: If you believe in vaxing, but have friends who don't...

I'm confused why some people are mentioning staying away from non vaxers during flu season. It is normal to get the flu and build immunity - do you only interact with people who get flu vaccines? It's not realistic if you do any normal activity like go to the grocery store.

DS is non-vax but has never even had a cold or flu.. but it would be okay if he did.

We did BF until he was over 18 months so I'm sure he got a bunch of immunities that way.

Funny, most people I talk to that get sick a lot or have the flu actually get flu vaccines. I can't remember the last time DH or myself had a flu.
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