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Old 03-10-2013, 08:37 PM   #1
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My two year old is becoming more and more difficult to deal with. He doesn't talk much and just started speech therapy for that. By he's just...so much mor difficult than what I've heard other 2 year olds are like. He doesn't like to play in his room with toys...he likes to put things in boxes/bags and take them out...put them in, take them out...over and over and over.

He throws tantrums, which I think is because of the speech, bit not sure. He has a horrible time falling asleep...we do melatonin with him, but I don't want him I becoming defendant. Even with it sometimes it just takes FOREVER for him to go to sleep. He wants me all the time, which is nice that he loves me, but getting into the realm if "is there something else at work here?". Ya know? He's very smart, understands us well and follows directions well...when he's to having a tantrum.

Our oldest has angelmans syndrome, but he was tested (amino and again at birth just in case) and he doesn't have it. By I'm wondering if we looked so hard for angelmans but missed something else. Any ideas? Or normal 2 year old?

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Old 03-10-2013, 08:58 PM   #2
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I have four boys, youngest is only 16 months though. I've never had the putting things in a box/bag over and over again.

I mean all kids LOVE to put stuff in a box or bag, maybe a few times, but not sure how many times you mean by over and over again?


It used to worry me even when my boys would line up cars as the whole lining up things is very common with autism.....but also a boy thing......I swear they all just love anything car related.


I'm presuming they tested your son for other things, delays etc when he got tested for speech though?
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I have four boys, youngest is only 16 months though. I've never had the putting things in a box/bag over and over again.

I mean all kids LOVE to put stuff in a box or bag, maybe a few times, but not sure how many times you mean by over and over again?

It used to worry me even when my boys would line up cars as the whole lining up things is very common with autism.....but also a boy thing......I swear they all just love anything car related.

I'm presuming they tested your son for other things, delays etc when he got tested for speech though?
Nope just speech. And by over and over I mean hell do it for hours. He'll wander, collect things to put in, then sit and take them out for an hour. Then he'll get bored, find more stuff and repeat
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I would bring it up at your next ped appointment if it's anytime soon or else make an apt with your concerns.


My kids tend to wander from place to place and play, not necessarily with toys of course but all kinds of stuff that interest them. My 3yr old is a good independent player and he could be playing in our basement for an hour easily....but the other kids no way, 20 mins tops. Baby goes from place to place.

The sleeping thing and the tantrums thing is very typical.....well, lots of kids have sleeping issues.

Really it's only the over and over bag/box thing that sounds a little different to me....
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Have you had him looked at by a specialist? Autism maybe? Have you tried sign language to get over the language barrier?
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My twins love to put things in and out, too. My little pony's go in shopping bags. all the cans of veggies go into a different cupboard. magnets go from the fridge to the dishwasher. maybe not hours and hours without a break, but it's seems like their favorite thing to do.

if you are concerned bring it up at his next dr appt. i'd probably monitor it for a while. maybe his brain is just stuck on this milestone. he could quit doing it at any time.

i had a friend with a son who was speech delayed a little bit and he had tantrums, too. once he was able to express himself with words, they subsided.

for the sleeping, i could recommend a book (No Cry Sleep Solution by Elizabeth Pantley) but it sounds like you want a more definitive answer. my son hated sleeping and it was a chore to put him to bed forever. he did eventually outgrow it. i hope yours does, too.
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Nope just speech. And by over and over I mean hell do it for hours. He'll wander, collect things to put in, then sit and take them out for an hour. Then he'll get bored, find more stuff and repeat
My son is younger (13 months) but I just wanted to say he loves walking around the house with a paper bag and putting stuff in, taking stuff out, over and over. I don't know about for hours, but he definitely likes it. So that behavior alone doesn't seem too strange to me. I would wonder about other things...
Does he show you the things he's put in the bag?
How else does he play alone?
How else does he play with you? (hiding, chasing, mimicry?)
Does he initiate play with you?

Tantrums at this age are also normal. Some kids just have more tantrums than others.

Do you have any friends with kids a similar age? It might make you feel better to see how he behaves next to his piers. I know it's hard not to worry.

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Sounds exactly like my kid at that age. (We sometimes call him OCD baby. But everyone else in the house has varying compulsive behaviors, so if it was that, he comes by it honestly.) He picks up things and does them with hyperfocus for a couple months. It's just kind of who he is.

Anyway, he doesn't sound that far deviated from normal to me, but if you're nervous, maybe ask the speech therapist if she/he thinks it is odd.
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My DD loves putting stuff in boxes/bags. She has a collection of them, and if there is a box sitting around the house, it is full of "treasures" quickly.

I would just give him more time. Set firm boundaries so he knows what to expect, try to keep a predictable routine, and give his speech time to develop. DS was essentially non-verbal til he was almost 3, and as the speech developed, the tantrums got better. Even now, when he tantrums, it is usually because he hasn't used his words, and if I can encourage him to get out what he wants, it helps the tantrum subside.
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I actually have that book, the baby and toddler version if you want it ffs as it's about to go to goodwill due to moving.
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