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Old 10-10-2012, 03:06 PM   #11
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YES! Say something!

We are going in for P/T conferences next week and I am going to mention the same thing! I hate, hate, hate to ask the already-busy teacher to make sure my kid is eating quickly, but I have to. She's coming home famished and she's so irrational and gets upset soooooo easily. It's been really disruptive to have her like this.

I suspect they are eating a snack mid-morning then lunch not long after that. Of course she's not hungry, she just ate! And she's only got 20 minutes to cram her face! No wonder by 3 she's a death ray of hunger.

I've taken to packing high fiber, high fat, and high protein foods so that little bit she DOES eat goes further. I'm even sending Carnation instant breakfast in her thermos because I know she'll drink it all because it's chocolate. Anything to get her full fast.

It might not be ideal to take away from class time to get the kids lined up, but it's certainly not ideal to take away from valuable lunch time. How much could it hurt their academics to get ready for lunch BEFORE the lunch bell rings?

Okay, I have to rant off-topic for a bit....you know why America has an obesity problem? Because kids are being forced to cram as much food in as they can in a period fo time that's so short that their body isn't able to even tell them they are full. I know this isn't related to your problem, but the reduction and elimination of phys ed programs and these tiny little windows for lunchtime are the underlying reasons for all this school lunch changes. Fix the underlying problem and the bigger problem will sort itself out.

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I just want to say there may be another reason for him not eating everything - I do understand having a slow eater (DS2 is terrible slow) but his problem wasn't that he couldn't eat a sandwich in 15 minutes (that is not unreasonable time, imo), but that he wanted to visit and talk during that time.
We told him over and over again that lunch time was for eating, then he could visit and talk and play with his friends at recess. He has changed his habits and eats all his lunch most days, but there are still some days he'll choose to talk instead of eating.
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I have worked in all the schools here. The elementary schools get 20 minutes to eat. 90% of the kids are done in 10. Those who are 't either have something to heat up, are slow(and some of those are slow on purpose) or are too busy talking.

I would make things as easy for him as possible. Have everything in bite size pieces. Everything in easy open containers or bags.

Yes 15 min is part of the problem, but the other half is your son is eating slow and needs to eat faster if he wants to finish everything.

Work with him in eating faster at home and use buying lunch as a reward.
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YES! Say something!

We are going in for P/T conferences next week and I am going to mention the same thing! I hate, hate, hate to ask the already-busy teacher to make sure my kid is eating quickly, but I have to. She's coming home famished and she's so irrational and gets upset soooooo easily. It's been really disruptive to have her like this.

I suspect they are eating a snack mid-morning then lunch not long after that. Of course she's not hungry, she just ate! And she's only got 20 minutes to cram her face! No wonder by 3 she's a death ray of hunger.

I've taken to packing high fiber, high fat, and high protein foods so that little bit she DOES eat goes further. I'm even sending Carnation instant breakfast in her thermos because I know she'll drink it all because it's chocolate. Anything to get her full fast.

It might not be ideal to take away from class time to get the kids lined up, but it's certainly not ideal to take away from valuable lunch time. How much could it hurt their academics to get ready for lunch BEFORE the lunch bell rings?

Okay, I have to rant off-topic for a bit....you know why America has an obesity problem? Because kids are being forced to cram as much food in as they can in a period fo time that's so short that their body isn't able to even tell them they are full. I know this isn't related to your problem, but the reduction and elimination of phys ed programs and these tiny little windows for lunchtime are the underlying reasons for all this school lunch changes. Fix the underlying problem and the bigger problem will sort itself out.
oh my gosh, I totally agree! When my oldest dd was in first grade she ate school lunches (we got free lunch). She only had about 15-20 minutes to eat. That, combined with all those calories, added up to her gaining 15 pounds that year. The next year I started sending her lunches. It didn't help much. I started homeschooling her the year after (not because of the lunches, ) and she slimmed out considerably. Unfortunately because of being forced to eat quickly, she eats so fast now that she is "still hungry". I have a rule that she can't have seconds until fifteen minutes after her firsts. Usually by then she is full. It's definately a problem!
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I would definently say something and 10-15 min is a crappy amount of time for a child of any age to have to eat much less a little one. We homeschool and my 6 year old is horrified at the idea that kids in public school can't eat throughout the day. I can't imagine how grumpy my child would be without lots of snacks throughut the day. I can't see the small kids being able to do their best on a nearly empty stomach.
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Re: Say something to the teacher or let it go...

Today wasn't so bad, but he still had about half his lunch, but I think I overpacked today so that's ok. He got the full 15 mins today it seems or at least he didn't think they had been delayed - obviously I'm trying to ask him in a casual way!

I'm going to rethink his lunch and try for the high protein, fiber, fat as you said badmisterkitty. Part of me is VERY reluctant to "teach" him to eat faster to be honest. I just think it's a bad habit and bad manners. It's the complete opposite of how I teach them to behave at home if DS1 is eating crazy fast, I tell him it's bad manners etc. I'm not normally a fan of protein type drinks but I might look into the carnation esp as this guy is my skinny, not a big eater one.

So funny as he was at the Dr last week for strep, well they weighed him and he was 43lbs. I was really concerned as he had been 50lbs in august as he JUST made the rockwall weight limit cut off. I was telling the Dr how he barely eats at school and is that why, kinda freaking out that he lost a huge amount of weight, Dr said I have to speak to the school......but then decides to reweigh him as the nurses weighed and did the height wrong on my LO the previous week( I told Dr that they ALWAYS do it wrong when he questioned the height)....so sure enough they weighed him wrong and he was in fact 50lbs. But for 10 mins I was freaking out that he had lost 7lbs in a month...ha! He had been holding on to the railings when they weighed him....
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Re: Say something to the teacher or let it go...

I'd bring it up with the teacher, at least. Its ridiculous that he only gets 15 minutes! Our school is a K-8 school (with K being 1/2 days, no lunch). They went to a new lunch schedule where grades 3-8 get 20 minute lunches (with just that grade in the cafe), but 1-2 get a longer, combined lunch, because they felt that grades 1-2 needed more than 20 minutes to actually eat. You need to talk to the teacher to remedy this... work outside the box so that your child isn't starving everyday. Talk to her, she may work with you on a solution.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:47 AM   #18
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I have worked in all the schools here. The elementary schools get 20 minutes to eat. 90% of the kids are done in 10. Those who are 't either have something to heat up, are slow(and some of those are slow on purpose) or are too busy talking.

Yes 15 min is part of the problem, but the other half is your son is eating slow and needs to eat faster if he wants to finish everything.
Thank heavens I'm not the only one who feels that way! I was starting to feel like a big meanie!

I am wondering - how long do you/your families normally take to eat a meal? For us, an average meal only takes about 15 minutes to eat - I mean, a full dinner.
It certainly shouldn't take a kid more than that to eat a sandwich and, say, some apple slices or carrot sticks.

Also, I think it's normal for kids to come home from school, even after eating snacks and lunch, hungry and needing another snack - hence, after-school snacks (I'm picturing the "50's" mom with cookies and milk waiting for the kids off the bus, lol). It's a lot of work for kids to think and learn all day, it's not because they didn't get enough to eat at school, but just that it's hard work and they're hungry again.
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Re: Say something to the teacher or let it go...

I think this policy is insane, but I also dont think that anything will change by one email, especially at a public school (right?) with overworked teachers that cant do anything about it either
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