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Old 10-17-2012, 11:47 AM   #31
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Humm...I don't know, I would limit people just to limit opinions. There are several people who are still anti-VBAC. If you want a natural birth I would labor at home for a long time before you go in. If you go in at less then 6cm you will start the 24hour time limit too early and might end up with another c-sec. You also need to progress at a certain rate or they will section you. They deal with a lot of this in the More BOBB VBAC movie. Just my two cents
Depends on the hospital. Our teaching hospital was great. DS had a birth defect so we had to go to a bigger hospital so he could have surgery. DS was born at Yale University Hospital. Yale is a very natural birth friendly hospital. Also the residents get no "say" in the birth or the process. They are their to observe and help when instructed.

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Old 10-17-2012, 03:27 PM   #32
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Its "vaginal birth after multiple c-sections"

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:13 PM   #33
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obstetricians are surgeons by trade and would rather do a c-section than do a birth. that is why the induction rate is higher than it should be. they don't want to wait around forever for nature to take it's course.
i don't think that's a very fair statement...not ALL docs would rather do a c-section, i know mine doesn't. Even with my 2nd when i had a different and impatient doctor, she never suggested a c-section, but she did tell me she was off at five, so maybe i would prefer to have one of the midwives deliver me because chances are she wouldn't still be there and they'd have to call the on-call doc (which i thought was pretty rude, my regular doc just waits, but i ended up choosing the midwife and i really liked her...)

None of that has anything to do with how i'm going to PLAN to labor this time! i'm very much of an oddball on this forum i think, i love my hospital and i like pushing laying on my back! Even when they've asked me if i want to get up and try walking or pushing in a different position, i stay on my bed, on my back....So, i'll be at a hospital again, i think i'm going to plan on no epi, but not because i'm against them, just because my previous ones didn't work and i still had to pay for them! i would also like to say i won't be induced, but chances are, i will. i don't think my body knows how to go into labor. Even with DS1, my water broke and we waited around for hours and hours trying to get labor to start, and i got nothing! Eventually i had some Cytotec and that started things. i was induced after 42 weeks with DS2, and after 41 weeks with DS3, it doesn't take much to get it going, just a dose or two of the Cytotec, and then i labor just fine...But boy, my DH and i are soooo familiar with all the parts of our hospital because we've done so much walking around it to try to start things naturally!
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:22 PM   #34
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can i please warn you against cytotec??? on the label it straight up says not to be used in pregnant women. it is very dangerous to use that to start labor. it is the drug they use to start medical miscarriages. it is what they gave me to miscarry the blighted ovum i had two years ago.

i'm glad you're very comfortable with your hospital! i too am an oddball and wouldn't want to do a home birth. i'd feel much safer at a hospital. i trust my body and nature and all that but i wouldn't know what to do in a an emergency situation with myself and/or the baby.
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I agree with the caution on the use of Cytotec. It is NOT recommended at all in the augmentation of labor. The manufacturer specifically states for it NOT to be used for that purpose and there have been many lawsuits over its use and subsequent deaths. It can cause hyper stimulation to the uterus and ruptures among other complications. They did use it for me with my MC at 17 weeks. It took a few hours to get things going and a few doses, but once it kicked in, it was less than 3 hours before I delivered. It did it's job, but my uterus wasn't *full grown* either. Just be careful!
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I agree with the caution on the use of Cytotec. It is NOT recommended at all in the augmentation of labor. The manufacturer specifically states for it NOT to be used for that purpose and there have been many lawsuits over its use and subsequent deaths. It can cause hyper stimulation to the uterus and ruptures among other complications. They did use it for me with my MC at 17 weeks. It took a few hours to get things going and a few doses, but once it kicked in, it was less than 3 hours before I delivered. It did it's job, but my uterus wasn't *full grown* either. Just be careful!
I was going to say something too about Cytotec. They have tried to ban it's use for labor but the FDA and other organizations cannot tell doctors how to practice. Right on the label it clearly states not to use it on a pregnant woman because it can cause uterine rupture. There are MANY cases and on going lawsuits.
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Depends on the hospital. Our teaching hospital was great. DS had a birth defect so we had to go to a bigger hospital so he could have surgery. DS was born at Yale University Hospital. Yale is a very natural birth friendly hospital. Also the residents get no "say" in the birth or the process. They are their to observe and help when instructed.
It does depend on the hospital but the one where the girls were born was a teaching hospital and supposed to be natural friendly. After spending 3 MONTHS there with my twins I can firmly tell you that it was not true. The docs and nurses pushed medicine/ interventions and it was a fight from the beginning to keep everything about my DDs natural. I was called all sorts of things from "crazy" to "hippie" and told that THEY are the ones with the medical degrees and I have no idea what I am talking about. Even after I showed them my research (medical journals, my family is made up of nurses) they still fought me. In the end when I got my girls home and sought specialists I was told that I in fact was right about most of the issues.
My experience with hospitals has not been positive. I am glad some of you have positive memories from a hospital but I do not. In my mind they do what their insurance companies tell them to do, NOT what is best for the patient. There, getting off my soap box I promise to behave now!
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It does depend on the hospital but the one where the girls were born was a teaching hospital and supposed to be natural friendly. After spending 3 MONTHS there with my twins I can firmly tell you that it was not true. The docs and nurses pushed medicine/ interventions and it was a fight from the beginning to keep everything about my DDs natural. I was called all sorts of things from "crazy" to "hippie" and told that THEY are the ones with the medical degrees and I have no idea what I am talking about. Even after I showed them my research (medical journals, my family is made up of nurses) they still fought me. In the end when I got my girls home and sought specialists I was told that I in fact was right about most of the issues.
My experience with hospitals has not been positive. I am glad some of you have positive memories from a hospital but I do not. In my mind they do what their insurance companies tell them to do, NOT what is best for the patient. There, getting off my soap box I promise to behave now!
i'm an almost nurse myself and have worked in hospitals since i was 16. i've seen this side of hospitals many times. i agree with you that when it comes down to it the insurance companies are the be all, end all. that is so not the way healthcare should be.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:01 PM   #39
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It does depend on the hospital but the one where the girls were born was a teaching hospital and supposed to be natural friendly. After spending 3 MONTHS there with my twins I can firmly tell you that it was not true. The docs and nurses pushed medicine/ interventions and it was a fight from the beginning to keep everything about my DDs natural. I was called all sorts of things from "crazy" to "hippie" and told that THEY are the ones with the medical degrees and I have no idea what I am talking about. Even after I showed them my research (medical journals, my family is made up of nurses) they still fought me. In the end when I got my girls home and sought specialists I was told that I in fact was right about most of the issues.
My experience with hospitals has not been positive. I am glad some of you have positive memories from a hospital but I do not. In my mind they do what their insurance companies tell them to do, NOT what is best for the patient. There, getting off my soap box I promise to behave now!
My experience was anything but positive. My first born child (after a year and a half of fertility meds and two m/c) was born with a birth defect that required surgery asap. He then spent time in the NICU recovering.
I was just saying that not all teaching hospitals are not bad. Not all hospitals are good either but they did save my sons life. They were considerate and respectful. My L&D nurse never left my side. She brought me a ball and a squatting bar. The doctors never told me when or how long to push. It is a very natural minded hospital with the knowledge that some situations do need modern medicine but normal labor and delivery isnt one of them.

This has nothing to do with my experience I was just telling PPer the she doesnt have to allow residence in the room but doing so allows them to see a natural birth which, in our country, is not the norm anymore.

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